Misrepresented Characters.

Mapleshade is likely the biggest offender. She's a vicious, petty, spiteful prick who would take out her hatred on innocent cats like Crookedstar and Sandstorm who never wronged her. She's not a smol innocent bean who was justified for everything and is an icon of feminist characters in warriors. Targeting the she-cat, Reedshine, who never wronged her? Sound misogynistic to me.

Another major one is Nightcloud. She's not innocent either - she's just as guilty as Crowfeather.

This also used to be prevalent with Hawkfrost for some reason. He's an overly dramatic ass with signs of sociopathy, not a well-meaning warrior who was just too ambitious. He flipping kicked Beetlwhisker's corpse for the evulz!

Cinderpelt for being treated by a lot of the fanbase like nothing but a rejected love interest for Firestar who sits and mopes about his relationship with Sandstorm in the Medicine Den. I got so sick of seeing all the art and AMVs reducing her to that as if that was all she was. When really she doesn't even show herself to act that way at all, but they ignore her other qualities anyways because...lol? Why they gotta do Cinder like that?

Poor Firestar does get viewed as a Sue by a lot of people. The guy got his head cleaved open by Scourge, lost most of his fights with Tigerstar and the one he did win he died after. I feel like Firestar being "boring" after TBP just kind of ignores the fact that being a good leader has its own kind of appeal, albeit that part's a bit more opinion.

Breezepelt is given endless amounts of defense by the fandom, not helped at all by the fact that his war criminal butt got amnesty in canon. No, he's a little monster who was going to murder a blind medicine cat and a pregnant queen with the help of a kit murderer. He ought to be in the villains camp whenever he's mentioned.

Dovewing, but I don't wanna go into detail about her to avoid a debate.

Cinderheart: People see her as a whiny hopeless romantic but I think she's just a really confused character.

Turtle Tail: can't remember why, but people don't like her as well. I think it's because they think she led Tom on...?


Unsure of others, but I'll think of them later

Ivypool, and I'm not going to clarify on that because I'll probably get badgered for it, lol.

Nightcloud, people that think she's just as bad as Crow, in what universe did she neglect and verbally abuse her kit?

Cinderpelt, I can't believe people are still treating her then nothing more of a love interest???

Blossomfall, people that ignore the fact she used to be a rude jerk in favor of other things.

Leafpool, she was never innocent in that entire Crow mess.

Breezepelt, it annoys me that people constantly ignore the facts of why he turned out the way he did in the first place.

Clear Sky, if I see another person defend his inconsistent and messed up character, oh lord.

Star Flower, she isn't innocent either, I gag when people forget and forgive the crud she's done.

Fernsong, people that make him out to just be a love interest for making kits, no one complains about Ferncloud though, hmm.

Mudclaw, he's not evil, never was, why is this still a thing.

Scorchfur, the modern Mudclaw now, why do people think he's evil or will be, he has zero potential for that.

Dovewing, there is no excuse for the stunt she pulled, especially for any of her actions past DWS.

Mapleshade, I still think it's gross the fandom makes a meme out of a mother who's abused and loses her litter.

Bumblestripe, it annoys me when people ignore his friendship with Ivy, and also make him out to be creepy.

Palebird, people claiming she's a horrible mother acting like she can help it that she has postnatal depression.

Graystripe, people that think he's an awful father just to try and take the heat off of Millie.

Millie, she's a bad mom, there's no excuse, she's downright ableist too.

Well, the mostly because in general, Riverclan is more laid back then Thunderclan. Also there was the whole added layer of Birchface/Flowerpaw for Mapleshade, with the leader also being the father of Birchface, making it much more personal. However Appledusk, his mate hadn't killed any of his Clanmates. He also sucked up to Darkstar; acknowledging he was wrong and seeked forgiveness.

Jayfeather! So many fans just see one side of him and not the other! They either think that he is a heartless, grumpy old badger who is always mean and snarky to every cat and loves no one, or think he is a perfect angel who is amazing and never does anything wrong. Well, guess what? He's neither!

I think this super old post of mine sums it up perfectly. (About my favorite and least favorite medicine cats)

I have never liked Breezepelt, and the thing is, even if you want to blame Crow for how he turned out, that does not justify being a murderer. Yes, Crow was one of the worst fathers in the series in my opinion, but that does not give Breezepelt an excuse to try to murder Jayfeather and Poppyfrost and then betray his clan. Sure, maybe Crow's parenting is what caused Breezepelt to become a psychopath, but that doesn't give him a pass. You can sympathize with him on his bad childhood, but it doesn't make what he did okay in the slightest. I mean, psychopaths in real life usually have bad childhoods, but that doesn't grant them the ability to murder people. It's the same logic here. Breezepelt shouldn't get a redemption arc. If the erins felt sorry for him, they shouldn't have made him evil in the first place.

I feel like this applies to every character, if not most of them. But for specific examples, I'd say Mapleshade and Breezepelt especially.

dawn I want to clarify a bit, if you don't mind, and no offense. My issue is that people would immediately ignore the issues Breezepelt had as a kit growing up thanks to Crowfeather. It reminds me of people that immediately ignore Ashfur's problems, and why he ended up the way he did. But the difference is that Breeze was neglected and verbally abused, he didn't have the best upbringing, and the closest thing he had to love was his mother who was a helicopter parent thanks to the father being incompetent.

I'm aware Breezepelt isn't perfect or innocent, but to me, I think the way the fandom handles him is a bit out of hand. Oh, he's just emo, he's got daddy issues, he's just a jerk for no reason, etc. People are quick to dismiss his characterization, just like they did with Blossomfall when her mother neglected her too. On top of his crappy upbringing, he was also literally brainwashed by the Dark Forest, we're blatantly given an entire scene about this, where they're feeding into all his issues and literally encouraging him to commit murder. That's called grooming. But no one ever points that out, and it bugs me.

Breezepelt was neglected, verbally abused, and groomed to do really messed up stuff. No, Breeze isn't just a bad cat because he's a jerk for no reason, he's the way he is because of these reasons. That's the mischaracterization, and that's my pet peeve when it comes to him. I don't think what Breezepelt did was right, never have, never will, but I also believe that he does deserve a second chance to make his own decisions without outside influences for once. Better that then the Erin's simply killing him off, and never going further into his character, brushing him under the rug, like they did Ashfur. Or trying to force us to like him like they did with Star Flower.

When Crowfeather's Trial does finally drop, my opinions on them may or may not change. It really just depends on how the Erins will write them.

Being an adult doesn't suddenly shield you from being mentally brainwashed.

Just like how Blossomfall being an adult doesn't change the fact that she still felt neglected by her own mother.

Also being a warrior =/= adult. There's a difference between a young warrior and a senior warrior for a reason. If the other trainees are going to get off with a slap on the risk despite being around the same age as Breezepelt but not having the same level of severity when it comes to hammering the "kill" rhetoric into your head, how comes Breezepelt can't have another chance to prove himself?

This is why I refuse to go with the whole, oh he's just bad cause he's a jerk for no reason, mischaracterization of Breezepelt until Crowfeather's Trial comes out. There's a reason for everything, or at least I believe there is in Breezepelt's case.

Clear Sky literally murders a young queen and orphans kittens, but I've still seen people defend him. Star Flower literally betrays the groups, watches Clear Sky almost get tortured to death, but people still defend her and even support her being with Clear Sky? Why? Because he was given a chance at a redemption, there was a reason behind his actions, fear. Fear of starvation, and how things were back when he was in the tribe. Does that make what he did right? No. But that doesn't mean I'll reduce his character to a jerk just being a jerk for the heck of it.

At least that's how I see it. This is also why I didn't have any solid qualms toward Dovewing until THS came out. Prior to that I actually was neutral toward her, I've even defended her, but after THS, my opinion on her changed. My opinion might or might not change when it comes to Breezepelt too once CT comes out. I used to love Crowfeather at one point, but my opinion of him changed once I saw how he treated his family, but heck it might change again thanks to his SE. I used to hate Nightcloud until the Erins gave more clarification on her, and we see her more outside of Crow.

My point is that until I see Breezepelt's character in a point where he's not being influenced by outside forces and shown how he is normal or what he's doing now. Then my opinion will remain the same right now. Breezepelt isn't innocent, that's true, nothing he did was okay, also true, but his actions can be explained, and no they're not excuses. There's a side to everything. I want the Erins to show us Breezepelt in CT, and either prove if he really is a jerk just being a jerk, or if it really is from the issues he's suffered from his father as a kit, and then the outside influence of the DF feeding into his hatred, taking advantage of him. I want to see if he's redeemable, and I also want to see a lot of other things get answered. Does he really love Heather? Does he blame his mother as much as his father? Did he and Crow ever make up? Does he regret anything? Or maybe we should just go by Dove's POV only back in DWS.

The other thing I'd like to point out, I keep seeing people use the whole scene where he tried to kill Jay and Poppy as proof that he's a bad cat. Yeah, that's nothing new, I'm pretty sure everyone is aware he's a bad cat. But in this case, I'd like to point out that concerning the subjects at hand, Brokenstar, one of the DF leaders, the unofficial leader actually, was with Breezpelt when that whole thing happened. He was trying to help him murder them, we don't even know the full story behind that. Did Brokenstar command him to follow them, was it his idea from the start, did he lie to Breeze about how good things would be once he brought them their demise??, etc. We don't know. All we know is that it was bad, he did a bad thing, and that Brokenstar, a clear manipulator in the DF, was there when it happened.

But that's just me I guess. I'd rather see character's from a 360 and not a 90.

I agree with this completely

But why does Breezepelt alone have this privilege of getting the benefit of the doubt and possible redemption? At this rate you might as well say that Roach, Crow, or whoever else in Darktails merry band could also just be misunderstood and brainwashed. Why don’t we need their side of the story too? Or why stop there, maybe Bone had hidden depths and his death is a tragedy.

Can you see why just going “what if” is an issue? If you do that then every cat sans protagonists can have this leveled at them, that their story is unknown ergo you can morph them how you please

I think they dislike her because she didn't handle Gray Wing's rejection that well. Some people forget not everybody is like Thrushpelt and won't handle heartbreak like an angel.