Post by duskflower on Sept 19, 2024 5:40:10 GMT -5
Well the biggest and most obvious one might be Splashtail. there is no way he survives this book if they need to defeat him (and if he does that means his plot to rule the lake isnt over which i would be rather curious about)
I can see Duskfur dying too. I know she feel guilt at the fact that played a part in Splashtail's rise to power and she's old so this might be her lash hurrah. Had all this drama not happened she would have made a fine leader too imo.
I really hope Brambleclaw dies here too. Him stepping down as frail elder is not what such a significant warrior deserves. I hope he pulls and Bluestar and gives his life to save a young warrior or to fight Splashtail and can join StarClan with honor.
Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Sept 19, 2024 5:54:42 GMT -5
I think Brambleclaw will die in The Elders' Quest instead. He will travel with Tawnypelt and possibly Crowfeather as well. He will succumb to exhaustion on the way back and die in ThunderClan's camp, surrounded by Squirrelstar, Tawnypelt, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, Alderheart, Sparkpelt, Crowfeather, Nightheart, and all the ThunderClan warriors.
Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Sept 19, 2024 6:40:46 GMT -5
For the deaths in Star, I would say Mothwing, Duskfur, Splashtail, Berryheart, Podlight, Sorrelstripe, Fringewhisker, Spireclaw (there has to be some drama like this to remind us why the warrior code forbade inter-clan relations as Berryheart said: but it's redundant that it's one or the other who dies, for a change they would have to both die like in Romeo and Juliet; RiverClan attacks ShadowClan and Berryheart kills Spireclaw and Fringewhisker), and Frostpaw (but she comes back to life because Sunbeam and Nightheart take the River of Spirits to bring her back).
Considering ThunderClan currently has 40 plus members at least half the clan needs to go. Since ShadowClan and SkyClan have 30 plus members at least 10-15 members should be killed. Splashtail, Berryheart, Duskfur, and Mothwing are pretty much a given at this point.
As for the more important characters, Berryheart, Duskfur, Mothwing (for reasons i have already stated) should die, and Splashtail will probably die. (Even though I actually don't want him to. I think there should be more villains that survive.)
Either Sparrowpelt, Hollowspring or Spireclaw should die. I want Berryheart to realize she's been endangering her family the whole time and be forced to turn on Splashtail. Fringewhisker is also a possibility.
Possibly Podlight and Puddleshine. These are less likely, but it's been a while since a medicine cat died, so... Also Puddleshine is currently in captivity. Maybe he dies trying to escape?
I really hope that the battle isn't between SkyClan, RiverClan and everyone else. I hope it's between the cats against the new code and those for it. So for that reason, I hope Yarrowleaf, Scorchfur, possibly Blazefire or Lightleap die in ShadowClan, Gorseclaw and one of Frostpaw's littermates in RiverClan, Wrenflight and some others in SkyClan, Some of the boring characters in ThunderClan (Sorrelstripe, Honeyfur, Hollytuft) plus Cherryfall or Molewhisker. As for WindClan, idk. Maybe someone like Woodsong?
Post by Sphinxwhisker on Sept 19, 2024 11:19:04 GMT -5
It’d be perfectly okay to me if Rootspring kicked the bucket. Preferably getting snuffed by Berryheart while defending 1 of the couples that switched clans, since he’s a HUGE advocate for that nowadays, so would make sense. Plus the benefit of not having him grating my nerves anymore would be music to my ears.
Well the biggest and most obvious one might be Splashtail. there is no way he survives this book if they need to defeat him (and if he does that means his plot to rule the lake isnt over which i would be rather curious about)
I can see Duskfur dying too. I know she feel guilt at the fact that played a part in Splashtail's rise to power and she's old so this might be her lash hurrah. Had all this drama not happened she would have made a fine leader too imo.
I really hope Brambleclaw dies here too. Him stepping down as frail elder is not what such a significant warrior deserves. I hope he pulls and Bluestar and gives his life to save a young warrior or to fight Splashtail and can join StarClan with honor.
I think we often forget that being an elder is an honour in Warrior Cats (except Graystripe’s Vow for some reason). Being able to take a break and be revered after everything he’s done for the Clan and everything he went through is exactly what he deserves imo. Let him be at peace with his new place in the Clan before killing him off. (Also I’d rather someone who played a bigger part in the arc get the significant role of sacrificing themselves if that happens)
Post by tigerheart on Sept 19, 2024 14:05:11 GMT -5
There’s probably going to be a battle. Splashtail,Berryheart,Gorseclaw,Nightsky,Mothwing,Spireclaw,and Puddleshine. I feel like they might have killed Puddleshine during Splashtail’s little trick in the excerpt.
Nightsky I think is going to fight on the side of Frostpaw and will die trying to fight Splashtail,then will get killed and go to StarClan.
Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 19, 2024 15:30:32 GMT -5
Still waiting for that small purge. Especially to hit ThunderClan and thin out the 30+ cats crowd a bit. Specifically the background carboard cutouts with almost zero personality (or who only get used when the plot calls for xenophobic Clanmate #19).
A big battle where each Clan suffers at least 5 to 10 casualties each would be quite effective as well.
Still hope Tigerstar II dies but that will never happen at this point because the plot armor and golden boy status is just too strong with this one.
Still waiting for that small purge. Especially to hit ThunderClan and thin out the 30+ cats crowd a bit. Specifically the background carboard cutouts with almost zero personality (or who only get used when the plot calls for xenophobic Clanmate #19).
A big battle where each Clan suffers at least 5 to 10 casualties each would be quite effective.
Still hope Tigerstar II dies but that will never happen at this point because the plot armor and golden boy status is just too strong with this one.
Yeah, given they did that stuff with Rowanclaw (and as a pretty major plot) I doubt he's going to go anytime soon.
Still waiting for that small purge. Especially to hit ThunderClan and thin out the 30+ cats crowd a bit. Specifically the background carboard cutouts with almost zero personality (or who only get used when the plot calls for xenophobic Clanmate #19).
A big battle where each Clan suffers at least 5 to 10 casualties each would be quite effective.
Still hope Tigerstar II dies but that will never happen at this point because the plot armor and golden boy status is just too strong with this one.
Yeah, given they did that stuff with Rowanclaw (and as a pretty major plot) I doubt he's going to go anytime soon.
Yup. I've accepted that harsh reality but it still doesn't make it any less frustrating lol.
Post by streamflower on Sept 19, 2024 16:33:53 GMT -5
I feel like Splashtail and Mothwing are a given; same with Berryheart, though I feel like Berryheart's death will trigger/be triggered by one of two things:
a) She tries to kill Fringewhisker and is killed by Spireclaw b )She tries to kill Fringewhisker and kills Spireclaw in the process, only to die by Fringewhisker
At the end of the day I don't see Fringewhisker dying, but I can absolutely see Spireclaw dying.
I'm also kind of hoping that some of Thunderclan's extra die, but sometimes it feels like some of the extras are so irrelevant that they won't even kill them in a battle, but rather will have them die in between books (e.g. Eaglewing).
I wouldn't be surprised if Squirrelflight loses a life (assuming she did receive 9 lives from Starclan). I can also see Podlight biting the dust too.
Bottom line there's a lot of possibilities for death, but I think the main ones would be Splashtail, Mothwing, Berryheart, and maybe Spireclaw.
Well the biggest and most obvious one might be Splashtail. there is no way he survives this book if they need to defeat him (and if he does that means his plot to rule the lake isnt over which i would be rather curious about)
I can see Duskfur dying too. I know she feel guilt at the fact that played a part in Splashtail's rise to power and she's old so this might be her lash hurrah. Had all this drama not happened she would have made a fine leader too imo.
I really hope Brambleclaw dies here too. Him stepping down as frail elder is not what such a significant warrior deserves. I hope he pulls and Bluestar and gives his life to save a young warrior or to fight Splashtail and can join StarClan with honor.
I think we often forget that being an elder is an honour in Warrior Cats (except Graystripe’s Vow for some reason). Being able to take a break and be revered after everything he’s done for the Clan and everything he went through is exactly what he deserves imo. Let him be at peace with his new place in the Clan before killing him off. (Also I’d rather someone who played a bigger part in the arc get the significant role of sacrificing themselves if that happens)
its an honor yes but i prefer the trend of POV not staying as elders. i also feel like hes less been honored and more been discarded.
i think he's annoying and in a poorly done way that makes me want him gone 5 books ago, but i also think if any protag died, him dying would genuinely be neat because it would give him some dramatic presumably heroic end that would tie off his arc in a way that immediately gives him his own memorable legacy.
Post by wheeledwarrior on Sept 24, 2024 13:17:12 GMT -5
Someone said Nightheart, and as sad would be, that would be fitting. His whole character is about wanting to be remembered for his own legacy instead of the people that went before him that he never really knew. And that would give him his legacy, it wasn’t really what he was thinking. Plus it would really put the new rules to the test because Sunbeam’s main reason for switching would be gone.
Otherwise, Splashstar/tail and Berryheart are basically a given. A lot of people are saying Mothwing but after everything she has gone through, I hope not because I just want her to retire peacefully. If Frostpaw chooses not to remain a medicine cat or doesn’t make it through, then maybe one of the others can come over from the other Clans to help. I’m expecting Squirrelstar and Bramblestar/claw to both die, as I feel like it’s been hinted that, and their arcs are both pretty much over. This whole part of the series feels like it’s been about passing the torch, so that would make sense.
I would’ve also said Tigerstar II, but Changing Skies confirms he survives. I don’t think we’ve had a leader killed during a rebellion since Raggedstar (Brokenstar, Bramblestar, and Rowanstar survived theirs). So it would’ve also thrown the new rules into question. But unfortunately It doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. It might still happen later down the line though. I’m also thinking things can’t look good for Puddleshine either, but his character arc is also over.
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