|
Post by Leonard on Sept 17, 2024 10:55:50 GMT -5
You can read it here. Has some insights into the choices of the latest super edition.
|
|
|
Post by pepperflake on Sept 17, 2024 11:54:46 GMT -5
It seems like they are hinting about a future super edition or arc revisiting the galestar era.
|
|
|
Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 17, 2024 11:57:30 GMT -5
Hmm. I find it interesting that the editor team is so convinced that introducing completely original characters without ties to current ones will result in readers not caring about their stories. Meanwhile, the fandom has been asking for ages for a clean slate and we’re all rather tired of every arc involving characters related to the last. I don’t know why they are so certain that a completely new cast would be so hard to appeal to readers — unless they are hilariously self-aware that they aren’t good at writing characters in general, and knowingly rely on nostalgia of older, better characters to carry the new ones.
I appreciate the ambition of where they’re going right now. I just hope it will live up to the hype they’ve been drumming up!
(Also, lol at the author admitting the “StarClan forgot” plot point being essentially a loophole so they could write the StormClan story while avoiding having to explain anything).
|
|
|
Post by wygolvillage on Sept 17, 2024 12:20:53 GMT -5
No way, they used some of my OLD old fanart from my tumblr days, of the DOTC characters. Kind of a jumpscare, lol.
As always, it's super fascinating to learn about the writing process.
|
|
|
Post by brightheartt on Sept 17, 2024 12:47:46 GMT -5
Hmm. I find it interesting that the editor team is so convinced that introducing completely original characters without ties to current ones will result in readers not caring about their stories. Meanwhile, the fandom has been asking for ages for a clean slate and we’re all rather tired of every arc involving characters related to the last. I don’t know why they are so certain that a completely new cast would be so hard to appeal to readers — unless they are hilariously self-aware that they aren’t good at writing characters in general, and knowingly rely on nostalgia of older, better characters to carry the new ones. I feel like this is directly because so many people fell off for dotc. People (including myself at the time) just didn’t read it. And a lot of people do skip it still. I don’t blame the Erins honestly. I think it’s a good move for them to introduce new characters like this in a book about a very popular character, as a way to get people onboard. I have absolutely no doubt that if a super edition named “Galestar’s Heart” released instead of Ivypool’s Heart then not nearly as many people would buy it or read it, especially younger readers. I still see a lot of people who haven’t read dotc or even Hawkwing’s Journey, look at how few people read Riverstar’s Home just last year. Usually whenever they’ve done this kind of thing set away from the most current characters and/or timeline it’s to much lesser fan fanfare than stuff about pre existing characters.
|
|
maggotpaw
boss makes a dollar, i make a dime. that's why i discuss warrior cats on company time
|
Post by maggotpaw on Sept 17, 2024 13:17:23 GMT -5
Hmm. I find it interesting that the editor team is so convinced that introducing completely original characters without ties to current ones will result in readers not caring about their stories. Meanwhile, the fandom has been asking for ages for a clean slate and we’re all rather tired of every arc involving characters related to the last. I don’t know why they are so certain that a completely new cast would be so hard to appeal to readers — unless they are hilariously self-aware that they aren’t good at writing characters in general, and knowingly rely on nostalgia of older, better characters to carry the new ones. I appreciate the ambition of where they’re going right now. I just hope it will live up to the hype they’ve been drumming up! (Also, lol at the author admitting the “StarClan forgot” plot point being essentially a loophole so they could write the StormClan story while avoiding having to explain anything). Small, dedicated enclaves of this fandom can beg all they want for a complete series overhaul, it doesn't change the fact that nostalgia is a powerful ($$$) tool - lots of people will tell you that they haven't even actually read a Warriors book since The Last Hope, simply because Firestar died. The team can see how well certain books sell. They might know numbers that validated this fear.
|
|
Asexual
#8B0000
Name Colour
🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄
Sorcerer Supreme
thank you kate cary
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
|
Post by 🍄🎶✨Brambleheart✨🎶🍄 on Sept 17, 2024 18:50:03 GMT -5
No way, they used some of my OLD old fanart from my tumblr days, of the DOTC characters. Kind of a jumpscare, lol. As always, it's super fascinating to learn about the writing process. Wow, I didn't read the name but that's so cool!
|
|
#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
|
Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 18, 2024 17:52:57 GMT -5
Hmm. I find it interesting that the editor team is so convinced that introducing completely original characters without ties to current ones will result in readers not caring about their stories. Meanwhile, the fandom has been asking for ages for a clean slate and we’re all rather tired of every arc involving characters related to the last. I don’t know why they are so certain that a completely new cast would be so hard to appeal to readers — unless they are hilariously self-aware that they aren’t good at writing characters in general, and knowingly rely on nostalgia of older, better characters to carry the new ones.I appreciate the ambition of where they’re going right now. I just hope it will live up to the hype they’ve been drumming up! (Also, lol at the author admitting the “StarClan forgot” plot point being essentially a loophole so they could write the StormClan story while avoiding having to explain anything). I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. lol
|
|
|
Post by vectoring34 on Sept 18, 2024 19:37:43 GMT -5
Hmm. I find it interesting that the editor team is so convinced that introducing completely original characters without ties to current ones will result in readers not caring about their stories. Meanwhile, the fandom has been asking for ages for a clean slate and we’re all rather tired of every arc involving characters related to the last. I don’t know why they are so certain that a completely new cast would be so hard to appeal to readers — unless they are hilariously self-aware that they aren’t good at writing characters in general, and knowingly rely on nostalgia of older, better characters to carry the new ones. I appreciate the ambition of where they’re going right now. I just hope it will live up to the hype they’ve been drumming up! (Also, lol at the author admitting the “StarClan forgot” plot point being essentially a loophole so they could write the StormClan story while avoiding having to explain anything). Online fandom often shares very little similarities to the real deal fandom of less-online people which actually compose the majority of consumers. A random example is something like the 2019 Lion King movie which is relentlessly bashed online, but was in fact the highest grossing animated movie of all time for several years and received generally positive reviews from the wider audience. Unfortunately, books don't have the same kinds of sales reports and reviews (that is to say, something like an equivalent to Cinemascore) made public typically, so it's hard to make comparisons, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's the case that something like DOTC had poor internal numbers relative to the later series.
|
|
|
Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 19, 2024 1:58:30 GMT -5
they gotta stay in that writer's process for a little longer bc they did not cook w this super edition
|
|
|
Post by Sphinxwhisker on Sept 19, 2024 17:51:30 GMT -5
I’d say it’s a legitimate concern that selling a story revolving around DoTC era characters(new or pre-existing) without depending on to some degree, on established characters with nostalgia in their favor(whether or not partly due to their inadequacy to write new, compelling characters)could fail. Since, even though there’s no conclusive reports of actual sales of these books. I can say at least that the DoTC books were the only main series entries that didn’t appear on the New York bestsellers list(besides The Sun Trial and TFB), in comparison that every other appeared at least several times. Shows a much lower interest as a whole.
The exact difference in sales obviously only they know.
|
|
|
Post by wygolvillage on Sept 19, 2024 18:17:43 GMT -5
Anecdotally I remember a lot of my friends and the fandom as a whole dropping the series after OOTS wrapped up since it seemed like a good stopping point to "move on". AVOS won back the crowd a little bit and we got that big fandom resurgence spearheaded by a bunch of youtubers, and DOTC gleaned a reputation as an underrated gem that barely anyone had read.
To this day I see hardly any DOTC fan work and animations.
|
|
|
Post by Flamefrost on Sept 21, 2024 4:26:03 GMT -5
Anecdotally I remember a lot of my friends and the fandom as a whole dropping the series after OOTS wrapped up since it seemed like a good stopping point to "move on". AVOS won back the crowd a little bit and we got that big fandom resurgence spearheaded by a bunch of youtubers, and DOTC gleaned a reputation as an underrated gem that barely anyone had read. To this day I see hardly any DOTC fan work and animations. It’s such a shame as I think DOTC is one of the arcs I found most reminiscent of the original series, and it was great. But yes, HarperCollins learned quickly that you need nostalgia and a young self-insert female protagonist to sell to this fandom.
|
|