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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 12, 2024 11:45:36 GMT -5
What are some Warriors opinions that you have that are unpopular on this site?
I feel like these threads often get flooded with opinions that are perhaps unpopular in other areas of the fandom, but aren’t really that unpopular (or sometimes are actually popular) on this site.
Also, for the purpose of this thread, unpopular = uncommon. You rarely run into people who share that opinion here. This is NOT the same as “controversial”. (E.g. “I like Bramblestar and Squilf is in the wrong” is a controversial opinion in this fandom, but it’s hardly an uncommon one).
I will start: DOTC was a mediocre arc.
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Post by asrise on Aug 12, 2024 12:05:35 GMT -5
For here? As far as I can tell, this is it.
- TBC isn't satisfying to actually read, even if it's good in theory. - Squirrelflight is not annoying for the vast majority of her portrayal. - Blackstar isn't that good of a leader when you compare him to anyone outside of ShadowClan. - Ashfur in TBC does not align with his former self. - Leopardstar's Honor was a pretty good book. (Never seen anything about this but I'm just guessing) - Breezepelt has changed since OotS.
Maybe some of these are more common than I might think, but I'm just going off of what I've seen.
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Post by honeynectar on Aug 12, 2024 12:05:50 GMT -5
I don't know if this is unpopular but I found Onestar's confession enjoyable and I don't think it was as bad as people made it out to be and Mapleshade wasn't dumb for crossing the river
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Post by valleylight on Aug 12, 2024 17:02:00 GMT -5
It wasn’t a wrong or bad choice (narratively of morally) for Feathertail to forgive Leopardstar.
Leopardstar herself states that she doesn’t deserve Feathertail and Stormfur’s forgiveness, and the narrative doesn’t excuse her crimes or shy away from how unforgivable they were. She takes responsibility and puts the blame squarely on her own shoulders. But it’s Feathertail’s decision in the end to show compassion towards her leader. Feathertail would’ve been totally justified in leaving RiverClan and her trauma behind altogether. But it’s understandable for her to want to reconcile rather than be consumed by constant reminders of the past, especially since she wants to see RiverClan as home. She sees Leopardstar’s sacrifice and humanity, fights for her, and forgives her in a way that isn’t superficial or forced.
Leopardstar might not have deserved her forgiveness, but Feathertail can choose to offer it regardless— especially for the sake of moving on, embracing her Clanmates, and finding happiness in RiverClan. Forgiveness is freeing for her. If Feathertail wants to acknowledge her leader’s crimes and the trauma she inflicted while still forgiving her, that’s her decision to make.
ASiR has its problems, but I think it’s a series entry that unequivocally tries to hold Leopardstar accountable. There is no justification for what we see Featherkit witness in TigerClan. She has to grow up haunted by that reality and unable to trust other cats because of Leopardstar’s conscious and self-directed decisions as leader.
It would’ve been cool to see the Warriors version of “The Southern Raiders.” But there’s also real merit and meaning from the story we ended up with, imo. And it’s worth noting that, unlike in AtLA, Leopardstar does not shift the blame, and she’s actively been trying to grow as a cat and put every Clanmate before her pride. Leopardstar admits that she failed to protect Feathertail as a kit. But she will die defending her now, without hesitation. That’s part of why Feathertail feels proud to be a RiverClan cat in the end— for the first time, she can believe in her Clan’s leadership.
I think, from what we see of Feathertail in TNP, she did find a great deal of happiness and belonging. So if forgiving Leopardstar was what Feathertail truly wanted, what helped her move on and form lasting friendships built on trust, then it was a good choice for her.
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Aug 12, 2024 17:25:10 GMT -5
Star Flower essentially switching Thunder out for his dad is not as bad in the book as it sounds, ironically, on paper.
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Post by 🎃*:.。. Rain .。.:*🦇 on Aug 13, 2024 15:46:34 GMT -5
lol not adding anything to this thread but I saw this and realized I literally never leave OTD.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Aug 13, 2024 16:24:39 GMT -5
Hollyleaf is annoying. I said it. She is an annoying rule follower who tells onnev everyone whenever she breaks the warrior code. However, while I do think she's an interesting character, she is too emotionally immature for me to handle and I think she should have been punished for killing Ashfur. I'm aware Ashfur was a threat, but shaming Leafpool and Squirrelflight, then murdering Ashfur put her own life at risk. Ashfur's knowledge was less damaging than Hollyleaf's. He didn't know the parents; she did.
Squirrelflight is also annoying. She's disrespectful to Bramblestar, gives him a hard time and even shames cats to get what she wants. When she wanted to go on that journey, she BLACKMAILED him, and she knew what she was doing. Her age isn't an excuse. She was giving cats a hard time AND NOBODY EVEN WANTED HER ON THE JOURNEY. That's how annoying she was! God forbid, if she doesn't get what she wants, she'll piss cats off. Bramblestar is harsh, but I dint really Blake the guy? He has to deal with her crap for years, amd he has every right to be mad at her about their kits.
Dovewing is immature as hell. She's selfish and only cares about herself. She had a responsibility to do and didn't do it. She was even capable of hearing into the Dark Forest but never did that either. She left her Clan, everybody worrying about her, and she pressured Tigerstar to choose between her and his Clan, which is cruel. She left a shitty way and gave her Clan attitude and didn't even say goodbye to Ivypool. She came back in the newest The Ultimate Guide book telling Ivypool she's worrying about MISSING her. This could've waited until the Gathering! She has no brain, is selfish and puts herself in danger a lot. She's one of the most stupidest cats I've read.
Ivypool is just as immature. She screams at Dovewing and blames her for the shit that isn't even her fault. She says she wants to spy then doesn't do her job. She isn't as bad as Dovewing, but Ivypool is really immature af as Ivypaw, but at least she matures, Dovewing doesn't.
I love Ashfur, I think he's a fantastic character and extremely entertaining. He's my most favorite one.
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Post by Birdskip on Aug 13, 2024 16:27:55 GMT -5
It wasn’t a wrong or bad choice (narratively of morally) for Feathertail to forgive Leopardstar. Leopardstar herself states that she doesn’t deserve Feathertail and Stormfur’s forgiveness, and the narrative doesn’t excuse her crimes or shy away from how unforgivable they were. She takes responsibility and puts the blame squarely on her own shoulders. But it’s Feathertail’s decision in the end to show compassion towards her leader. Feathertail would’ve been totally justified in leaving RiverClan and her trauma behind altogether. But it’s understandable for her to want to reconcile rather than be consumed by constant reminders of the past, especially since she wants to see RiverClan as home. She sees Leopardstar’s sacrifice and humanity, fights for her, and forgives her in a way that isn’t superficial or forced. Leopardstar might not have deserved her forgiveness, but Feathertail can choose to offer it regardless— especially for the sake of moving on, embracing her Clanmates, and finding happiness in RiverClan. Forgiveness is freeing for her. If Feathertail wants to acknowledge her leader’s crimes and the trauma she inflicted while still forgiving her, that’s her decision to make. ASiR has its problems, but I think it’s a series entry that unequivocally tries to hold Leopardstar accountable. There is no justification for what we see Featherkit witness in TigerClan. She has to grow up haunted by that reality and unable to trust other cats because of Leopardstar’s conscious and self-directed decisions as leader. It would’ve been cool to see the Warriors version of “The Southern Raiders.” But there’s also real merit and meaning from the story we ended up with, imo. And it’s worth noting that, unlike in AtLA, Leopardstar does not shift the blame, and she’s actively been trying to grow as a cat and put every Clanmate before her pride. Leopardstar admits that she failed to protect Feathertail as a kit. But she will die defending her now, without hesitation. That’s part of why Feathertail feels proud to be a RiverClan cat in the end— for the first time, she can believe in her Clan’s leadership. I think, from what we see of Feathertail in TNP, she did find a great deal of happiness and belonging. So if forgiving Leopardstar was what Feathertail truly wanted, what helped her move on and form lasting friendships built on trust, then it was a good choice for her. agreed! one thing my parents have told me is that forgiveness is also for the person offering it, making peace with an event that has affected them. Leopardstar is sincere in her apology and is willing to sacrifice her life for her Clanmates that she once allowed to be killed. She may not deserve forgiveness, but Feathertail being able to let it no longer haunt her when Leopardstar is showing she has changed is also good.
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Aug 13, 2024 17:55:55 GMT -5
I didn't enjoy TBC after Ashfur was revealed to be the villain. I also didn't like DOTC.
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Post by Jaysnow on Aug 13, 2024 21:24:14 GMT -5
Nightheart was always a good character, even when he was Flamepaw in River.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Aug 14, 2024 0:38:02 GMT -5
~ Tallstar’s Revenge is aggressively meh, outside of added worldbuilding to windclan’s lore.
~TBC despite it’s intriguing premise and themes, failed to hit the landing(imo)
~Millie was justified in scolding Blossomfall for her irresponsible behavior, and wasn’t a neglectful, horrible mother as is commonly insisted. Helicopter parent. Sure.
Squirrelflight’s Hope had immense potential for telling a poignant story of a couple’s deteriorating relationship over the lose of a child, but got botched with the execution. And the writers decision to give us more petty arguing between Squirrel & Bramble instead.
Spottedleaf’s Heart wasn’t a bad book, nor did it ruin Thistleclaw’s character. It merely expanded on his malevolent nature.
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Post by Slightdapple on Aug 14, 2024 8:55:18 GMT -5
- I didn’t like Tallstar’s Revenge and I loved SkyClan’s Destiny
- Needletail was a well-written and interesting character
- DOTC was not a great arc.
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