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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 21:23:38 GMT -5
Ah, typical Reddit. There's no site like it. Honestly, I wouldn't mind TigerDove if their story was written better. It's a mess. Reddit is a bitch. I guess I shouldn't have been so surprised, it was full of kids. They even compared me to Hitler, saying I'm just like him for hating DoveTiger. Discord was just full of angry assholes. Everyone seems okay here.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 21:25:15 GMT -5
I don't mean to come across as rude, I just like sharing my thoughts and I tend to ramble When I said I didn't appreciate the Dovewing hate I meant more generally than anything targetted at someone specific- more of a "hey, let's not leave out the things Tiger did too!" sentiment. I apologize if that came out wrong, I realize now that it can read like a stern mother's "I don't like your tone", haha. My intention was to add some friendly debate. It's fine to dislike Dovewing even if I don't agree. (However, I think calling her abusive is a bit too far, but that's just my two cents as someone who's been in an abusive relationship before. I just don't see it.) You're fine, don't worry I call her abusive because she forced Tigerheart to choose between her and his Clan. Everyone including him was stressed out and he felt guilty, she had his kits and she knew it was wrong. The obvious choice was to go to ShadowClan, I don't care about the dream, what she did was wrong and she knows it, even called herself a coward for what she did and she's right, she is a coward, she only ran away because she was scared of getting yelled at by her clanmates and even admitted this when she came back. She's messed up and irritating to read about, I really can't stand her and I wish Ivypool just cut Dovewing out of her life tbh. Squirrelflight is manipulative but Dovewing is so much ****ing worse. At least Squirrelflight has reasons for her behavior, she was lied to and eventually matured for the better, but Dovewing just never matured. She left everyone, leaving a worried sick Ivypool who searched all the clans to find her yet Dovewing didn't care, Dovewing didn't even want to go back and what pisses me off is that she wanted to raise her kits on trash and scraps. She's such a disgusting, manipulative and selfish cat. I don't understand why she has fans for the way how she treats Tigerstar and Ivypool. I've never been in a relationship, but it feels like I'm literally the only person here who sees what Dovewing has done to him and Ivypool was wrong. People say she wants to be happy with him and that's fine, but she was shady and did cowardly things that hurt and stressed cats who cared about her. She didn't want her kids to learn about the Clans because of her cowardice, insulted and treated Ivypool like shit ever since she was an apprentice, constantly screamed at Bumblestripe just because he wants to be with her, istg she's worse than Blossomfall, and I hate Blossomfall and her bratty behavior. Squirrelflight is almost as bad, but she isn't abusive like Dovewing is. Maybe I'm too harsh by calling her that, but the way how she says she wants her Clan to hate Ivypool and forced Tigerheart to leave his clan was incredibly unforgiving to me. I don't know why Ivypool forgave her.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 21:37:14 GMT -5
Okay for the Bumblestripe thing also, I don't think he's that bad either? Like he's bland as hell, I don't care about him but holy shit Dovewing is so mean to him, and she's only with him because it's easier for her.
So Dovewing doesn't spy for her Clan, she lies to ThunderClan about her mate, says to Ivypool she wants everyone to hate her and makes assumptions by saying she's jealous and wants her mate (lol? Where did that even come from?) then leaves her Clan searching for her, forces Tiger to choose between her and his Clan, tells her kids to eat garbage, all because she wanted to be with Tiggy, I just can't stand her, she doesn't deserve to be the third or the fans she has. People just seem to ADORE her and call Ivypool abusive, like what??????
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 21:41:54 GMT -5
Please tell me how Ivypool is abusive, like the only time she may have been was when she yelled at Dovewing over then prophecy but Ivypool got over it, she matured and moved on. It makes me sad that such a generous and loyal sister os insulted because people dint understand wjat Dovewing has done to everyone, a lot of people say they're harsh to Dovewing bit they're absolutely right, she's horrible to Ivypool and her Clanmates, just how is Ivypool horrible to her? Ivypool has done nothing but keep the secret, she kept the secret and helped Tigerstar back off when Dovewing tries move on, starts talking to her again after the prophecy has been fulfilled, the only time she was ever mean was when Ivypool wanted to Dovewing to stop breaking the code, but she isn't even mean about that, Ivypool never gave up on Dovewing even after she left in River of Fire, she forgave Dovewing and kept seeing her, but I think she should've cut Dovewing out of her life and her toxicity. Dovewing doesn't deserve Ivypool, I hate that people hate Ivypool so much.
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Post by wygolvillage on Jul 1, 2024 21:58:53 GMT -5
Please tell me how Ivypool is abusive, like the only time she may have been was when she yelled at Dovewing over then prophecy but Ivypool got over it, she matured and moved on. It makes me sad that such a generous and loyal sister os insulted because people dint understand wjat Dovewing has done to everyone, a lot of people say they're harsh to Dovewing bit they're absolutely right, she's horrible to Ivypool and her Clanmates, just how is Ivypool horrible to her? Ivypool has done nothing but keep the secret, she kept the secret and helped Tigerstar back off when Dovewing tries move on, starts talking to her again after the prophecy has been fulfilled, the only time she was ever mean was when Ivypool wanted to Dovewing to stop breaking the code, but she isn't even mean about that, Ivypool never gave up on Dovewing even after she left in River of Fire, she forgave Dovewing and kept seeing her, but I think she should've cut Dovewing out of her life and her toxicity. Dovewing doesn't deserve Ivypool, I hate that people hate Ivypool so much. I agree, I love Ivypool and I dislike the way the fandom talks about her nowadays, it almost feels like a backlash to how she's always been a popular character + how the fandom has reappraised Dovewing over time. But I will always relate a lot to Ivypool and the manipulation she was a victim to (and I do believe she is a victim), and I think she's a strong individual and almost always interesting to read about. I think she's one of the most engaging warriors characters- and I think the secret sauce of her arc is that the sister she envies so much isn't even happy, and Ivypool probably wouldn't be either if she was in her place. I love little tragic contradictions and misunderstandings like that, they're like catnip to me. Also with regards to Bumblestripe, I don't think he's the worst ever but he would be the more boring option from a writing standpoint. Dovewing leaving her clan is a more interesting story to me than her staying with the "safe option".
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*Ravenpaw*
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*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jul 3, 2024 19:12:12 GMT -5
Ah, typical Reddit. There's no site like it. Honestly, I wouldn't mind TigerDove if their story was written better. It's a mess. Reddit is a bitch. I guess I shouldn't have been so surprised, it was full of kids. They even compared me to Hitler, saying I'm just like him for hating DoveTiger. Discord was just full of angry assholes. Everyone seems okay here. Wow. Sounds like they needed to touch grass. We've had some moments in the past, but right now we're chill.
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