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Post by Known Troll Account on Jun 29, 2024 20:33:04 GMT -5
I hate these two a lot, when I was on Reddit people praised them for being such a cute and wonderful couple but I don't think it's that good at all. Tigerstar is disloyal to Dovewing and has let her down more than once. He threatened threatened ruin her relationship with Ivypool because Ivypool almost killed his own brother. I get that he was angry about that, but he knows how much Dovewing and Ivypool love and need each other, threatening to ruin their relationship was shitty. Tigerstar is disloyal to his family and doesn't even care about Dovewing, he only sees her to escape the Dark Forest. I don't even care about their kits, Lightleap is annoying and she isn't careful, Shadowsight was boring as hell, and Pouncestep who? I hate these guys so much, and Dovewing wanted to raise her kits on TRASH. GARBAGE. All because she was too cowardly to go back to her damn clan and fess up about what she did.
Why people support these two together, I'll never understand. Their bastard brats can die for all I care, I hate how they treat Ivypool, all she wanted was to be with Dovewing and Dovewing leaves with some of the most horrible things she does to her.
Dovewing and Tigerheart do not seem healthy to me at all, when Dovewing is with him she's disloyal and tells him clan secrets, and Tigerheart only stays with her to get what he wants out of her. I'm glad Ivypool slashed his face, I've seen people mad at that but he deserves it for how he treats his wife.
Right, I also forgot to mention that Dovewing pressured Tigerstar to leave his Clan and her kin, lol, why people say this is a cute and healthy couple, I'll never understand, and I'm more angry at Dovewing for being selfish and crappy to him. At least Tigerstar TRIES to be loyal to his clan, Dovewing just wants Tigerstar's booty.I swear to God, she's the worst.
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Post by کیوان on Jun 29, 2024 23:07:17 GMT -5
They peaked in TBC, but so did a lot of characters. What a shame.
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Post by Katanaheart on Jun 29, 2024 23:27:47 GMT -5
I agree with this overtly sans for the Pouncestep slander. She's my favorite, which is not that difficult to do considering how awful her family is. From the bits the narrative gives her, she's a somewhat clever cat that gets overshadowed by her reckless Tigerclone sister and her "Why won't he die already?" Brother.
Pouncestep is a minor character I think about a lot and is the only good thing that came out of TigerDove. Dovewing remains very trashy to her birth Clan and unlike Tawnypelt, doesn’t have the excuse of having joined when she was a young and impressionable apprentice either. Nor did Dovewing have an intensely negative experience with ThunderClan either.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 30, 2024 3:06:22 GMT -5
People praise them?
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jun 30, 2024 3:32:56 GMT -5
Yeah, on Reddit. So many people were praising how "healthy" Dove x Tiger were, and I'm like, really?? She's an asshole who causes most of the drama, and people were trying to tell me that it wasn't that bad, and that Tigerstar and Dovewing love each other oh so much. *rolls eyes* Please, Dovewing is one of the main core of the drama here, at least Tigerstar TRIES to be loyal to his Clan and has good reasons for his behavior. Dovewing is just... ugh. Horrible.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jun 30, 2024 3:45:21 GMT -5
Tigerstar >>>> only gets angry at Ivypool when she almost kills Flametail
>>> Doesn't want Dovepaw to betray her Clan for him, asks another way to get the herbs even if it's to lose her trust in him
>>> Wanted to return to his Clan because he felt it was wrong to leave
>>>> Wanted to choose his clan over Dovewing because he's actually loyal
>>> Tries to help the guardian cats
>>> Helps cats in ShadowClan gain faith in StarClan
Meanwhile...
Dovewing:
>>> Probably pressured Tiger to have kits, she offered it when she was still a paw
>> Screams at Ivypool when she feels her relationship is threatened, threatens Ivypool and wants her Clan to hate her because of Tigerstar
>>> Wants to raise her kids on garbage because she's too selfish to let them hunt
>>> Ditches Ivypool in River of Fire, in the most rudest way, she's literally pissed at them when they're just worried about her, and leaves
>>> Pressures Tiger 2 to choose her and his Clan
>>> Doesn't even want to return to the Clans because she's scared she'll get yelled at
>>> Only cares about her kits when she's actually in ShadowClan, even Tawnypelt talks shit about how she doesn't cooperate
>>>> Only uses her powers to spy on hee Clan
Tigerstar is more mature than Dovewing. At least he has reasons for his behavior, he cares about his clan and the cats he lives with. Dovewing only cares about herself, and when she's with Tigerstar and only thinks about him, she's an asshole and treats other cats like shit. I get that she had a shitty childhood, but she's really bad to people because of this guy. Dovewing gives him a hard time and escapes her Clan because she's a coward who doesn't want to get yelled at. So she runs off with everyone worrying her then comes back treating Ivypool like shit and leaves. That's why I'll never truly forgive Dovewing, she was horrible to Ivypool and I'm pissed that Ivypool STILL forgives her and will never give up on her. She needs to stop forgiving her and move the **** on and focus on her life with Fernsong. I hate how selfish Dovewing is to Ivypool and how she treats her. Their relationship is so ****ing abusive because of Dovewing.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jun 30, 2024 3:46:19 GMT -5
Funny thing is, I got a lot of death threats and kids screaming at me about how wrong I was about Dovewing's behavior and Tigerstar, but it's reddit, I'm not really surprised.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jun 30, 2024 3:51:43 GMT -5
I've had people scream at me at both discord and reddit tell me how "sweet" Dovewing is to Ivypool. Lmfao, she really isn't though, I don't think fans understand how horrible Ivypool was to her, and I'm almost sure that Ivypool got fed up at one point of Dovewing's crapped and stopped talking to her. I think it was Tigerheart's Shadow?
I don't see what's so great about DoveTiger when they cause so much damn drama for their Clans and family. They call Ivypool "cold and heartless" but like??? Girl I would stop talking to Dovewing too if she kept breaking the law and talking shit about her clanmates.Do people not realize what she does to her family and clan???? She's garbage. And a bad character, oof. I know Ivypool doesn't stop talking to Dovewing completely, but she puts her paw down in Tigerheart's Shadow, and Dovewing so deserved that bullshit. She treats her clanmates like crap. I don't even care if Dovewing's feelings are hurt when Ivypool puts her paw down, Dovewing is taking shit too far at that point, Ivypool was fed up with the drama between her and Tigerheart!
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 30, 2024 4:00:31 GMT -5
I say this as someone who doesn't like either the relationship or Tigerstar himself (I actually kinda like Dovewing, but even then, I still find her to be the epitome of wasted potential), I'd just ignore those people if I were you, especially if it's on a completely different site anyway. Tiger x Dove isn't really popular on here and I really wish they had stayed broken up. I love their kits, though. Also, I'm pretty sure Dovewing gave birth in or near a church.
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Post by Woofzie on Jun 30, 2024 4:09:05 GMT -5
That's a lotta hate for inexistent cat characters, woah.
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Post by moongloweevee on Jun 30, 2024 7:09:25 GMT -5
Yeah, on Reddit. So many people were praising how "healthy" Dove x Tiger were, and I'm like, really?? She's an asshole who causes most of the drama, and people were trying to tell me that it wasn't that bad, and that Tigerstar and Dovewing love each other oh so much. *rolls eyes* Please, Dovewing is one of the main core of the drama here, at least Tigerstar TRIES to be loyal to his Clan and has good reasons for his behavior. Dovewing is just... ugh. Horrible. It's Reddit. People can't have a respectful conversation to each other without resorting to yelling and dismissing one's experience with abuse there. I've seen people there ship Fallen Leaves with Hollyleaf which is just a huge yikes. Likewise with Bramblestar and Squirrelflight, people are tired of that discourse and the mods refuse to do anything about it.
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when do we get more hairless warrior cats
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Post by flipwish on Jun 30, 2024 8:12:13 GMT -5
am I the only one who thinks tigerheartstar having had a conversation where Dovewing offered to have kits with him when she was an apprentice is like a point against Tigerheart actually
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 30, 2024 11:15:12 GMT -5
am I the only one who thinks tigerheartstar having had a conversation where Dovewing offered to have kits with him when she was an apprentice is like a point against Tigerheart actually And the thing is, unless there's a scene I'm forgetting, this never actually happened, at least not while Dovewing was an apprentice. She mentions it once in TLH, but then immediately drops the subject when Tigerheart gets uncomfortable. Either way, I agree that this really shouldn't be a point against her.
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when do we get more hairless warrior cats
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Post by flipwish on Jun 30, 2024 18:20:36 GMT -5
am I the only one who thinks tigerheartstar having had a conversation where Dovewing offered to have kits with him when she was an apprentice is like a point against Tigerheart actually And the thing is, unless there's a scene I'm forgetting, this never actually happened, at least not while Dovewing was an apprentice. She mentions it once in TLH, but then immediately drops the subject when Tigerheart gets uncomfortable. Either way, I agree that this really shouldn't be a point against her. Huh! I just assumed I'd forgotten a scene, it's been a very long time since I read oots. But like yeah even here she IMMEDIATELY drops it lol, you're right
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jun 30, 2024 22:06:23 GMT -5
Yeah, on Reddit. So many people were praising how "healthy" Dove x Tiger were, and I'm like, really?? She's an asshole who causes most of the drama, and people were trying to tell me that it wasn't that bad, and that Tigerstar and Dovewing love each other oh so much. *rolls eyes* Please, Dovewing is one of the main core of the drama here, at least Tigerstar TRIES to be loyal to his Clan and has good reasons for his behavior. Dovewing is just... ugh. Horrible. It's Reddit. People can't have a respectful conversation to each other without resorting to yelling and dismissing one's experience with abuse there. I've seen people there ship Fallen Leaves with Hollyleaf which is just a huge yikes. Likewise with Bramblestar and Squirrelflight, people are tired of that discourse and the mods refuse to do anything about it. Don't even get me started on BrambleSquirrel. Bramble is no saint, but the Squirrel stans were abusive assholes to me on there too, including discord. Lots of people acting immature and getting into fights with me because I kept trying to say that Squirrel is pretty abusive too. But I won't talk about BrambleSquirrel here, because this is a TigerDove hate topic.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jun 30, 2024 22:07:31 GMT -5
I'm reading Night Whispers, lmfao, Dovepaw literally hesitates fighting Tigerheart during the battle about the land, and she's like "we're friends!!!" God dammit, Dovepaw, be loyal to your freaking clan! Here's Ivypaw being a badass and fighting grown warriors all by herself, I'm so proud of her.
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Post by tumblepaw on Jul 1, 2024 0:40:15 GMT -5
It's Reddit. People can't have a respectful conversation to each other without resorting to yelling and dismissing one's experience with abuse there. I've seen people there ship Fallen Leaves with Hollyleaf which is just a huge yikes. Likewise with Bramblestar and Squirrelflight, people are tired of that discourse and the mods refuse to do anything about it. Don't even get me started on BrambleSquirrel. Bramble is no saint, but the Squirrel stans were abusive assholes to me on there too, including discord. Lots of people acting immature and getting into fights with me because I kept trying to say that Squirrel is pretty abusive too. But I won't talk about BrambleSquirrel here, because this is a TigerDove hate topic. One of her stans told me I wasn’t being bullied when I said the character reminded me of the people who bully me on a thread about least favorite characters (I think that was the topic anyways). I’ve been bullied since childhood and get bullied by Karens at work. I now have social anxiety disorder because of that childhood bullying and panic attacks at work. And this fool had the nerve to tell me I wasn’t being bullied simply because they liked a stupid fictional character that happens to have all the nonmeme traits of a Karen. There’s nothing wrong with liking the character, but you should respect that others don’t and that they have their reasons for this. Person never apologized and just mocked me some more when I told them off. At least everyone else downvoted them to the negatives. That person was the least liked person on the subreddit and once got upset over a negative depiction of the character in some head canons someone else was making for their own au. Just insane.
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Post by wygolvillage on Jul 1, 2024 1:20:41 GMT -5
Saying this as someone who has... some amount of appreciation for what Tigerdove brought to the table, I think what I actually liked about it was that it gave more focus to Dovewing's choices, characterization and agency outside of her involvement in the prophecy, especially in AVOS. It's also a nice example of a forbidden romance that actually worked out in the end which at the time was pretty fresh.
That being said I'm not sure what I think of Tigerheartstar as a character? I neither like nor dislike him, and I found him boring in OOTS and even manipulative at moments, and he's a bit more interesting later but not especially so. And of course now as a leader he's overstepping by trying to intervene with Riverclan against their will, he's had some super petty territory disputes, etc. I kind of like that too an extent, that he's a "softer" Tigerstar but ultimately ends up making a lot of the same choices as his ancestor. The road to hell is paved in good intentions, etc etc. But I think the appeal of Tigerdove is more with Tiger being an accessory to Dovewing choosing a better life for herself in a place she feels more at home. It's an "I want good things for Dovewing" ship.
Also, uh... I don't appreciate all the hate being placed on Dove in this thread since Tiger wasn't the greatest either (I do think he was right to try and get the herbs through any means necessary though! Medicine should be shared!), and OOTS Dovewing reads like an immature teenager to me. I can hardly blame a teen for acting their age, she's an apprentice throughout most of it... (Whether you think this reflects poorly on Tigerheart being a warrior at the time depends heavily on how you read cat ages, which is inconsistent enough in the books as it is.)
Also I take issue with the framing here for "wanting to avoid repurcussions/getting yelled at/fessing up" since inter-clan relationships are oppressed and socially maligned. I think it's fair for Dovewing to be afraid of being essentially religiously ostracized for something harmless but extremely stigmatized. There is nothing wrong with falling for a cat from another clan, borders and divisions are extremely arbitrary. But the clans don't see it that way. It's understandable to fear being marginalized and shunned by your community.
I also like the Tigerdove kits a lot (Shadowsight is my favorite Warriors character) so that definitely helps with my impression of them. Overall in terms of content added to the series I think the relationship was a net positive. It's at the least a lot more interesting than whatever Bumbledove would have ended up being. (Shudders)
Not trying to start a fight or anything I just wanted to get my thoughts out lol :P
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Post by asrise on Jul 1, 2024 2:08:22 GMT -5
I'm of two minds on this one.
While I think the whole idea of a Dovewing/Tigerheart relationship was kind of unnecessary and damaged both characters, I can't actually say I wish it didn't happen, because there are some aspects of their relationship in ShadowClan that I think are interesting.
I don't like that they took a blowtorch to both characters to accomplish it, though. The way the Erins got Dovewing and Tigerstar 2 together was amazingly clumsy and managed to assassinate both of their characters, and it's my least favorite stretch of the series. Maybe it was difficult because it was basically a retcon and was the first half-clan relationship to turn out well, but it was still awful.
At this point in the series, though, I just don't care anymore. I've accepted that Tiger x Dove is... whatever it is now, and I can live with the results. For all people dislike Tigerheartstar, there is no leader quite like him, and in my book that's a positive. I also like the kits, so there's that. As for Dovewing and Tigerstar themselves, I think they're fine to each other for the most part, (even if they aren't to everyone else around them) and that's what people probably are thinking of when they praise the relationship.
So really, while the execution was a mess, the result is not bad. (At least in my opinion)
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 1, 2024 2:55:07 GMT -5
Also, uh... I don't appreciate all the hate being placed on Dove in this thread since Tiger wasn't the greatest either (I do think he was right to try and get the herbs through any means necessary though! Medicine should be shared!), and OOTS Dovewing reads like an immature teenager to me. I can hardly blame a teen for acting their age, she's an apprentice throughout most of it... (Whether you think this reflects poorly on Tigerheart being a warrior at the time depends heavily on how you read cat ages, which is inconsistent enough in the books as it is.) Agreed, especially with this part here! The thing with Dovewing, at least for me, is that her character really left alot to be desired with how romance focused it was, but as it is, we're still talking about a cat who discovered she was special at eight moons old and was encouraged to keep quiet about it that it ended up straining her relationship with her only sibling, and just when she was starting to make new friends, it doesn't last, simply because they're all in different Clans. So when Tigerheart, who'd accompanied her on the beaver trail, is literally the only other cat who doesn't want things to go back to how they were, it's not too surprising that she accepts his company. If we can say that Tigerheart is with Dovewing as an escape from the Dark Forest, then I don't see why the same can't apply to Dovewing being with him due to the pressure of her own duties, as both a Clan cat and the Third (whether or not the series handled this well is a different story, but there's a reason why I think she's walking wasted potential). I remember Kate saying: And regardless on how you feel about Kate, when it comes to Dovewing, I don't think she's that off that mark. I mean, look at how hesitant she was to return to the Clans at all while staying with the guardian cats, how bitter she seemed at even just the thought of it. If she had never learned that Ivypool was also in the nursery, there's a good chance she would've stayed if not taken longer to go back, which might explain her current snippy attitude towards ThunderClan now that she's a ShadowClan cat: she's overcompensating.
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Post by iceheart on Jul 1, 2024 6:02:14 GMT -5
They're awful
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Post by Slightdapple on Jul 1, 2024 16:16:20 GMT -5
It’s my least favorite ship in the entire series.
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 18:43:18 GMT -5
Wtf??? She actually thinks Ivypaw is in love with this man???
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 18:45:32 GMT -5
Dovewing is such a bad character, omg. Tigerheart is at least consistent and better written than she is. Dovewing can't make up her mind about Bumblestripe or Tigerheart, and can't decide whether she hates Ivypool or not. Dear God, please just stop you obnoxious thing. Ivypaw does not love your ****ing boyfriend. Why does she have fans?
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 18:47:33 GMT -5
Like okay, I'll give her a pass for at least trying to help Ivypaw the last book or two, but when Dovepaw starts seeing Tiger, she starts saying hurtful and obnoxious things. At least Dovepaw's actions are understandable about her powers, she hates them and probably hates the Three for ruining her life, but when she starts lying and sneaking around, she hurts Ivypaw and says mean thing. Dear God. Why do I have to read through her chapters that are all about Tigerpoop?
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 18:49:14 GMT -5
Saying this as someone who has... some amount of appreciation for what Tigerdove brought to the table, I think what I actually liked about it was that it gave more focus to Dovewing's choices, characterization and agency outside of her involvement in the prophecy, especially in AVOS. It's also a nice example of a forbidden romance that actually worked out in the end which at the time was pretty fresh. That being said I'm not sure what I think of Tigerheartstar as a character? I neither like nor dislike him, and I found him boring in OOTS and even manipulative at moments, and he's a bit more interesting later but not especially so. And of course now as a leader he's overstepping by trying to intervene with Riverclan against their will, he's had some super petty territory disputes, etc. I kind of like that too an extent, that he's a "softer" Tigerstar but ultimately ends up making a lot of the same choices as his ancestor. The road to hell is paved in good intentions, etc etc. But I think the appeal of Tigerdove is more with Tiger being an accessory to Dovewing choosing a better life for herself in a place she feels more at home. It's an "I want good things for Dovewing" ship. Also, uh... I don't appreciate all the hate being placed on Dove in this thread since Tiger wasn't the greatest either (I do think he was right to try and get the herbs through any means necessary though! Medicine should be shared!), and OOTS Dovewing reads like an immature teenager to me. I can hardly blame a teen for acting their age, she's an apprentice throughout most of it... (Whether you think this reflects poorly on Tigerheart being a warrior at the time depends heavily on how you read cat ages, which is inconsistent enough in the books as it is.) Also I take issue with the framing here for "wanting to avoid repurcussions/getting yelled at/fessing up" since inter-clan relationships are oppressed and socially maligned. I think it's fair for Dovewing to be afraid of being essentially religiously ostracized for something harmless but extremely stigmatized. There is nothing wrong with falling for a cat from another clan, borders and divisions are extremely arbitrary. But the clans don't see it that way. It's understandable to fear being marginalized and shunned by your community. I also like the Tigerdove kits a lot (Shadowsight is my favorite Warriors character) so that definitely helps with my impression of them. Overall in terms of content added to the series I think the relationship was a net positive. It's at the least a lot more interesting than whatever Bumbledove would have ended up being. (Shudders) Not trying to start a fight or anything I just wanted to get my thoughts out lol "I don't appreciate the hate on this thrrat" So we're not allowed to share opinions? You're already starting to give me anxiety, mate. Not trying to start anything either, but I *REALLY* don't wanna have anxiety over this or feel like I can't share hate or my love expressions over these cats. I love certain characters too, but so many are damn immature so I'll come off as a person with a hateful heart over cat books lol. I don't like many, but there are some I like too which I'll share later! Like Briarlight, I adore her Also I do appreciate you are mature here about this, I've had so many death threats on other places for expressing my hatred, haha. Thank you!
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Post by Known Troll Account on Jul 1, 2024 19:03:02 GMT -5
Saying this as someone who has... some amount of appreciation for what Tigerdove brought to the table, I think what I actually liked about it was that it gave more focus to Dovewing's choices, characterization and agency outside of her involvement in the prophecy, especially in AVOS. It's also a nice example of a forbidden romance that actually worked out in the end which at the time was pretty fresh. That being said I'm not sure what I think of Tigerheartstar as a character? I neither like nor dislike him, and I found him boring in OOTS and even manipulative at moments, and he's a bit more interesting later but not especially so. And of course now as a leader he's overstepping by trying to intervene with Riverclan against their will, he's had some super petty territory disputes, etc. I kind of like that too an extent, that he's a "softer" Tigerstar but ultimately ends up making a lot of the same choices as his ancestor. The road to hell is paved in good intentions, etc etc. But I think the appeal of Tigerdove is more with Tiger being an accessory to Dovewing choosing a better life for herself in a place she feels more at home. It's an "I want good things for Dovewing" ship. Also, uh... I don't appreciate all the hate being placed on Dove in this thread since Tiger wasn't the greatest either (I do think he was right to try and get the herbs through any means necessary though! Medicine should be shared!), and OOTS Dovewing reads like an immature teenager to me. I can hardly blame a teen for acting their age, she's an apprentice throughout most of it... (Whether you think this reflects poorly on Tigerheart being a warrior at the time depends heavily on how you read cat ages, which is inconsistent enough in the books as it is.) Also I take issue with the framing here for "wanting to avoid repurcussions/getting yelled at/fessing up" since inter-clan relationships are oppressed and socially maligned. I think it's fair for Dovewing to be afraid of being essentially religiously ostracized for something harmless but extremely stigmatized. There is nothing wrong with falling for a cat from another clan, borders and divisions are extremely arbitrary. But the clans don't see it that way. It's understandable to fear being marginalized and shunned by your community. I also like the Tigerdove kits a lot (Shadowsight is my favorite Warriors character) so that definitely helps with my impression of them. Overall in terms of content added to the series I think the relationship was a net positive. It's at the least a lot more interesting than whatever Bumbledove would have ended up being. (Shudders) Not trying to start a fight or anything I just wanted to get my thoughts out lol Here's my two cents. Tiger is not that bad. He's actually loyal to his Clanmates and is responsible. Tiger chooses his Clan over Dovewing because he's loyal. He only took advantage of Dovewing's trust because his medicine cat was dying. Cats respect him and when he's with the guardian cats he actually wants them to hunt for themselves instead of feeding on scraps and trash. Dovewing, meanwhile only thinks about herself and doesn't want to back even though his clan is dying. But he goes back anyway. Tigerstar helps the guardian cats, and helps his clan regain faith in ShadowClan in Long ShadowClan. He only focuses on loyalty and what his Clanmates need and that's why I think he's a good character. Dovewing is too immature for him and even mildly abusive, in my opinion he should've left her with Ivypool. I hate her because of her immaturity. But Tiger is not that, I think. That's just my two cents right there, I do not hate Tiger at all, fairly neutral on him. It's Dovewing who causes all the drama and starts spreading lies about him not loving her.
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Post by wygolvillage on Jul 1, 2024 19:56:35 GMT -5
I don't mean to come across as rude, I just like sharing my thoughts and I tend to ramble :P When I said I didn't appreciate the Dovewing hate I meant more generally than anything targetted at someone specific- more of a "hey, let's not leave out the things Tiger did too!" sentiment. I apologize if that came out wrong, I realize now that it can read like a stern mother's "I don't like your tone", haha. My intention was to add some friendly debate.
It's fine to dislike Dovewing even if I don't agree. (However, I think calling her abusive is a bit too far, but that's just my two cents as someone who's been in an abusive relationship before. I just don't see it.)
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Post by Sunleap on Jul 1, 2024 20:08:54 GMT -5
That's a lotta hate for inexistent cat characters, woah. Tbh that's how I feel for a lot of posts on warriors in general. Whenever a person rants about a character or morally diesects them (no shade people are allowed to feel what they want) but for me I just wanna enjoy the books. Yeah, there are characters I don't like but my reaction is just "yeah they suck" and then move on. I think people dwell on the bad too much. For people who are fans of this series they sure like hating on it. (Lol sorry if this was a bit negative I just needed to get this off my chest.)
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jul 1, 2024 20:18:33 GMT -5
Ah, typical Reddit. There's no site like it. Honestly, I wouldn't mind TigerDove if their story was written better. It's a mess.
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