Ivypool as deputy?

Rosepetal has had three apprentices so far while Berrynose has had none. I feel that there's not enough screen time from the background warriors to be able to judge them properly.

Aside from that, yeah, I think that Ivypool would be a good deputy.

She is the only cat currently that I would like as leader. I think she would do ThunderClan some good, I'd like to see her slightly more stern attitude whip ThinderClan back into shape and into it's former glory.

I would have loved a Hollytar too had she survived (despite my disliking of her character) with Ivypool as deputy.

I think Bumblestripe guilt-tripping Dovewing for not sharing his feelings for her is a perfect example as to why he shouldn't be a deputy.

Plus, he's shown to have no patience during her training when they were climbing trees together in TLH.

We haven't had enough screen time to see whether Bumblestripe is a good deputy or not. Also, he's quite sensitive and judgmental. He believed Blossomfall is a traitor for training in the DF.

No, Bumblestripe wouldn't be a good deputy. He isn't mature enough yet.

What did Bramblestar's Storm hint that he might be a good deputy? I haven't read that book in a while, and I've already read it at least 3 times.

Being a deputy means more than helping the Clan out, though. It proves that he can handle helping out others, but that doesn't prove if he's mature enough to have the status.

For example, he needs to learn to control his emotions during certain situations. Bumblestripe didn't handle that well when he was angry with Dovewing for not returning his feelings. He guilt-tripped her. He also, as I've said, didn't have the patience with her during their training session.

Again, I haven't read any of the OotS books after Fading Echoes, so I haven't seen him do that (if it happens in OotS and not something like Dovewing's Silence, I have no idea). If you're going to mention his past though is it not fair to mention Ivypool's? Because her's appears to be much worse than just getting angry with someone over a romance.

So why hasn't Bumblestripe matured enough if Ivypool has? He's done nothing wrong recently, neither has Ivypool. Why aren't they both good choices?

Sometimes I forget that Ivy is even kin to Firestar tbh.

I would like a Ivystar, I can see her being a pretty iron-willed yet wise leader. Maybe like Shadowstar was. As for Berrynose, I can see him being her deputy, I'm wondering when he'll get an apprentice.

And I don't know why people are complaining about Firestar's kin being in high places. Firestar is the only of his kin to become leader, after him was Bramblestar, who is Tigerstar's kin. Squirrelflight won't make it to leadership, that's obvious enough, she's too old. If anything it's the Medicine cats that are irking me. Leafpool > Jayfeather > and now Alderpaw? Now that's a bit ridiculous at this point. I'd much rather it had been one of Lilyheart's kits.

You're saying since he's like Graystripe, he won't make a good deputy? His father was an excellent deputy and took the place of leader as well, in Firestar's absence. In Bramblestar's Storm, TAQ, and TaS Bumblestripe behaves very maturely. It doesn't matter weather Ivypool matured before him or not, what matters is that Bumblestripe has too. When were the recent occasions where he acted immaturely?

Graystripe was taken away because he was rescuing a clanmate, that wasn't selfish. Neither was travelling all the way back to Thunderclan because he never forgot his clanmates. He was one of, if not the most loyal friends Firestar ever had. Might I mention that he also accepted Bramblestar as deputy? That's not selfish at all.  


He cared about Dovewing in BrS didn't he? How is that immature? Bramblestar hadn't found out that Dovewing was still having problems adjusting to normal clan life until Bumblestripe told him. And I never said here that he should be leader. I said deputy, that's what this is all about.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd say Graystripe, because at least I know he wouldn't throw a friend under the bus, especiallyno his kin, like Bumblestripe did toward Blossomfall. He didn't care that she was being presecuted and thought she deserved it because she was an ex dark forest trainee until Dovewing convinced him otherwise.

But Graystripe is too old for deputyship, if anything Brackenfur should have been leader, not Bramblestar.

Yeah, out of the three B's I think the only one suited for Deputyship would probably be Blossomfall. If Ivypool becomes Ivystar and takes Blossomfall as her deputy, I can see that working out, since the two are really close and can confide in one another. It's better to have a deputy you can trust than one you can't. I can also see Berrynose being a good deputy maybe, but I want to see him with an apprentice first. 

Yeah Dovewing doesn't need one anytime soon, now that Tigerheart is in ThunderClan, there's even more drama. I wonder what will happen if their secret gets out, or if they might get back together? Ugh. If anything it would be a Gray + Silver situation, where she's too distracted to train her apprentice.