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"A warrior never blames his Clanmates for his own mistakes, Lionpaw."
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Post by myusernameis on May 27, 2024 8:02:01 GMT -5
To me, a lot of brambleclaw/star rewrites are genuinely the worst I ever read, personally of course. They either make him inredeemed monster who have no positive traits or some stupid himbo, I only seen brambleclaw rewrite that was good was made not warriors wiki on Tumblr If you guys know any good rewrite let me know!
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Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on May 27, 2024 17:20:15 GMT -5
Just saw someone's tumblr post for a rewrite explaining that Bramblestar wasn't getting a redemption for their rewrite because everyone deserved to be happy except for Bramblestar while giving reasons and examples that could be picked apart in 5 minutes 🙃
Some people do this and then immediately ship Squirrelflight with Ashfur because I guess Ashfur isn't some irredeemable monster 🙃🙃🙃
Anyway, I'd check around A03. I know there are fics out there that don't paint Bramblestar as a monster or an idiot somewhere.
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on May 27, 2024 17:24:04 GMT -5
i have an au fic where he's the main character set in TNP
....be warned, its kind of a weird au concept (idk if you were looking for aus but if you were search for 'The Calm Before The Storm' on ao3)
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"A warrior never blames his Clanmates for his own mistakes, Lionpaw."
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Post by myusernameis on May 28, 2024 4:09:20 GMT -5
Oh tell me about these some ungodly bad rewrite (not saying the name of course) where the creator made brambleclaw ''bad'' so shrewpaw look good, sorry but you can someone better without a ruining another character and god, you are telling me Brambleclaw would said firestar's name in vile? that he will be strike by lighting? and he desvered to be buried far from thunder's territory is such a shitty move.
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Post by wygolvillage on May 28, 2024 10:20:37 GMT -5
I tend to dislike "fixit" rewrites or AUs where Squirrelstar ends up with someone else and never dates Bramble, or Brambleclaw is just written like a different character to make him "better", etc. I think part of what makes Squirrelstar compelling to me is seeing someone so fiery-hearted surviving a volatile relationship as best she can- she is a cat who consistently is there for the ones she loves at her own expense. So for me an ideal fanfiction surrounding splitting them apart would take place after what's already happened, introduce a breakup, and focus on the emotional fallout of their kitty cat divorce and how that intersects with their positions in the clan- Squirrelstar now being leader obviously, and Brambleclaw having a lot of Feelings about having recently stepped down from his leadership, especially given his trauma after the possession and how he feels changed by it. I feel like there are a lot of interesting directions you could go with it that is kind to both characters and their canon characterization.
I think a lot of rerwrites tend to focus on smoothing out all the wrinkles and flaws of characters to make them "better" and "less problematic" but that kind of thing doesn't interest me at all. Stories need conflict.
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"A warrior never blames his Clanmates for his own mistakes, Lionpaw."
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Post by myusernameis on May 28, 2024 13:47:58 GMT -5
Agree! People try to make him into something he isn't. Brambleclaw isn't some idiotic, uwu sweet himbo. If you're going to cry about how bad their relationship is, then you should rewrite it. I rewrite their relationship from time to time but keep their personalities because that's what makes them who they are. Some will hate me for saying this, but shipping her with Shrewpaw is the lamest thing to me personally. You could make Brambleclaw an evil person or a kind brother to her.
Sorry, but Firestar treated him horribly. He never said sorry for his actions towards Brambleclaw. Just because it seems like Brambleclaw looks up to him doesn't mean he sees Firestar as a father.
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Post by wygolvillage on May 28, 2024 14:11:41 GMT -5
...but shipping her with Shrewpaw is the lamest thing to me personally. I absolutely agree. I remember when I reread TNP I was surprised at how much of a nothing-character he is compared to how much the fandom stresses that he was her best friend, that they could have been a good relationship, etc etc. Like he's just a background character who interacted with her once or twice. I don't find it super compelling. On that note I also kind of hate SquirrelCrow. Crowfeather is about as unhealthy a romantic partner as Brambleclaw is but people frame it like it would have been so much better.
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"A warrior never blames his Clanmates for his own mistakes, Lionpaw."
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Post by myusernameis on May 28, 2024 14:50:45 GMT -5
Like people said Crowfeather is better when he literally hit his son and just a bad dad, mate genuinely
brambleclaw, bias or not is one the best father in the series. He is way better than we ever see from most dads in this series also I hate how people act like him reacting to be lie is bad and that Shrewpaw or their oc would reaction better, like bitch no he/her won't. We both know if that happen to you irl and your bf/gf/whatever response was "god told me so" you won't be taking it lightly
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Post by wygolvillage on May 28, 2024 15:56:14 GMT -5
I hate how people act like him reacting to be lie is bad Yeah, that's like the least of his problems to me and I think Bramble and Squirrel breaking up was a good decision. If I found out that someone had lied to me for the equivalent of 15-20 years (with the kits being on the cusp of adulthood at that time if I'm recalling right) I would probably have trust issues about it too, even if it was for a very selfless and noble reason (and I say this as a HUGE Squilf fan- I'm just being realistic) I don't think Brambleclaw is a great mate and I'd prefer if they eventually break up, but I do make an effort to understand him as a character. I'd have to reread PO3 to have any more solid thoughts on him as a father but I got an overall good impression, iirc in OOTS he even lied to cover for Hollyleaf when her murder was revealed, which indicates some growth on his part. I kind of wish the series had elaborated a little more on that, how having once been so betrayed by Squilf he then defended someone he cared about with a lie as well once the dust had settled between them. Super interesting to me.
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"A warrior never blames his Clanmates for his own mistakes, Lionpaw."
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Post by myusernameis on May 28, 2024 16:05:51 GMT -5
Oh def. Im big fan of squilf as well. I do hate, love and understand her actions. They're reasonable but also very reasonable for the clans to reaction the way it did. Sorry wc fans but no cat in this series would forgive her that fast
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"A warrior never blames his Clanmates for his own mistakes, Lionpaw."
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Post by myusernameis on Jun 3, 2024 9:23:33 GMT -5
bump
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Post by کیوان on Jun 3, 2024 10:04:15 GMT -5
One thing's for sure: the whole Bramble discussion was definitely a huge mask-off moment for the fandom. It's nice that people are beginning to relax following SqH, but there's a ton of dirty laundry that will never go away for all we know.
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Post by wygolvillage on Jun 3, 2024 17:58:21 GMT -5
One thing's for sure: the whole Bramble discussion was definitely a huge mask-off moment for the fandom. It's nice that people are beginning to relax following SqH, but there's a ton of dirty laundry that will never go away for all we know. Agreed. Like, I'm in the "he's abusive" camp but like... That's just how I (and others) read his character. I would never harass someone for liking a character I'm not a huge fan of, especially because I don't think he was purposefully written that way and he's got his interesting qualities as a character. So I can see WHY people like him even if he isn't my cup of tea.
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