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Post by vectoring34 on May 25, 2024 11:23:50 GMT -5
All cats in this series seem to have the same language and are able to understand each other perfectly well in terms of the words, even if they may lack specific cultural cues. This holds true even with groups that have never met each other. However, clearly this language does not extend to all cat species, as the Sharptooth in TNP was unable to speak their language. The question then is exactly what cats are covered by the cat language to be intelligible? For instance, if the clans met a European wildcat, would they be able to converse freely, or would the wildcat's language be too different to understand? What about a wildcat hybrid?
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 25, 2024 15:05:46 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats?
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Post by Sunleap on May 25, 2024 17:59:38 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats? I mean if a rat can learn to speak the cat language then couldn't any animal? Though this also raises the question of the intellgence levels between different species as cats are portrayed as much smarter than dogs.
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Post by crowflightstar on May 26, 2024 7:49:40 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats? Midnight?
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 26, 2024 10:09:53 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats? Midnight? No, I'm not thinking of Midnight. Nor Millie speaking to dogs. I must have imagined in but I swore there was a moment when a fox spoke "cat".
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Post by Petalshine on May 26, 2024 10:59:32 GMT -5
If any other species could learn to speak cat, it's crows. They're definitely smart enough for it, much smarter than cats in real life, and natural mimics. I'd like to see that.
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Post by User33 on May 26, 2024 11:01:08 GMT -5
No, I'm not thinking of Midnight. Nor Millie speaking to dogs. I must have imagined in but I swore there was a moment when a fox spoke "cat". The closest thing that comes to my mind is Midnight translating what a fox says to the Clan cats. Something about eating them.
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Post by User33 on May 26, 2024 11:05:12 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats? I mean if a rat can learn to speak the cat language then couldn't any animal? Though this also raises the question of the intellgence levels between different species as cats are portrayed as much smarter than dogs. A large majority of animals could potentially speak "cat" or they all speak some universal language. Though this makes me bring up my own question on how come the cats were able to understand "Pack pack, kill kill!" From the dog pack?
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Post by Petalshine on May 26, 2024 13:19:29 GMT -5
No, I'm not thinking of Midnight. Nor Millie speaking to dogs. I must have imagined in but I swore there was a moment when a fox spoke "cat". The closest thing that comes to my mind is Midnight translating what a fox says to the Clan cats. Something about eating them. I recently reread Midnight (the book), and this is what Midnight (the badger) had to say about the speech of other animals: "All fox talk of is kill. Rabbit have thistledown for brain."
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when do we get more hairless warrior cats
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Post by flipwish on May 26, 2024 15:32:44 GMT -5
Isn't there also a short story somewhere about a group of foxes at fourtrees or something? I don't know that a fox speaks exactly but that might be relevant?
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on May 26, 2024 15:40:18 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats? By any chance, did you ever read Survivors? Foxes are shown being able to communicate with dogs in that series.
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Post by vectoring34 on May 26, 2024 20:56:10 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats? I mean if a rat can learn to speak the cat language then couldn't any animal? Though this also raises the question of the intellgence levels between different species as cats are portrayed as much smarter than dogs. I think many animals could learn to speak cat by the series logic, my question is more about which animals natively speak cat language or a similar enough language to be intelligible.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 27, 2024 12:34:48 GMT -5
Did I invent it in my head or wasnโt there a moment somewhere in the Warriorsverse where a fox was able to speak (albeit brokenly) to cats? By any chance, did you ever read Survivors? Foxes are shown being able to communicate with dogs in that series. I read the first two books. That might be what I'm thinking of!
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Post by shrimpcat on May 28, 2024 14:21:02 GMT -5
i think cat language is distinct between bigcats and domestic cats but may be mixed for smaller wildcats: like a spanish speaker can sort of understand some aspects of italian and portuguese because they have a root language. maybe a wildcat can understand both aspects of the bigcat and domestic cat language but still speaks a different language. bigcats might also have lower cognition within the warriors series, as sharptooth is portrayed more like a dog (less intelligent, instinct driven, etc) rather than the domestic cats.
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Post by vectoring34 on May 28, 2024 20:46:44 GMT -5
i think cat language is distinct between bigcats and domestic cats but may be mixed for smaller wildcats: like a spanish speaker can sort of understand some aspects of italian and portuguese because they have a root language. maybe a wildcat can understand both aspects of the bigcat and domestic cat language but still speaks a different language. bigcats might also have lower cognition within the warriors series, as sharptooth is portrayed more like a dog (less intelligent, instinct driven, etc) rather than the domestic cats. That would be a pretty interesting way of handling it, if they run into a European wildcat or the like and the wildcat speaks in Scots or Friesian to represent the slightly disparate language. Sharptooth's level of cognizance is an interesting question in and of itself too.
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Post by shrimpcat on May 29, 2024 10:50:43 GMT -5
based on what we see im pretty confidant that sharptooth's cognitive ability is less of that than the domestic cats we see, maybe even less than the dogs, because sharptooth never speaks, but the dog pack in a dangerous path speak to each other ("pack pack kill kill"). sharptooth never attempts to speak and is fooled easily by the clan cats (i think the only reason their plan doesnt fully work is just because sharptooth is so much bigger and stronger than them)
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