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Post by Sand on Jun 18, 2024 12:44:23 GMT -5
also i just wanna say that i love cariboupaw i love her too despite how snarky she can be <3 sorrelsnap's a wise man, he needs to teach her his ways.
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 18, 2024 12:47:47 GMT -5
Okay, I skimmed through the entire thread and so far my understanding of the main plot is this: - The Dark Forest is involved somehow - Paintedmask is the son of the previous leader (Cedarstar) and was raised to believe he'd eventually take his place - The previous deputy Flinthawk was poisoning Cedarstar (with the help of the medicine cat and Cedar's brother, Oakstreak?) - Briar found out, confronted him, and killed him in secret - Flinthawk's death is still a mystery - Briar was promoted to deputy in his place and ultimately succeeded Cedarstar - Painted is understandably pissed about this and is apparently plotting murder - Briar was also expecting kits that nobody knew about? - Flinthawk is conspiring with his children (Silent?) from the Dark Forest? There's a growing movement of cats who want Briarstar out of leadership? Am I missing or misunderstanding anything? || Honestly pat yourself on the back for that I donโt think I could manage to be so succinct and I wrote most of that
Iโd like to second the loving Cariboupaw train
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Post by ๐ก๐ธ๐ฌ๐ด๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ท๐ท๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ on Jun 18, 2024 12:55:33 GMT -5
Sounds about right to me!
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Post by Tealraven on Jun 18, 2024 13:01:35 GMT -5
Alright, just a few more questions then ~
What's the current "cover story" for Flinthawk's death? Was Cedarstar well-loved by the Clan? Does anyone suspect foul play? Does anybody suspect Briarstar, specifically?
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Post by Feathertalon on Jun 18, 2024 13:03:08 GMT -5
Wisteria family Dewripple x Morningdrift = Cinderstream, Dawnfrost, SilentfallSilentfall x Darkstep = Shadekit, Blackkit, Quietkit ; Darksong, EbonypawDarksong x Snowpine = Lilykit, Mistlekit, Hollypaw, WisteriasnowWisteriasnow x Flinthawk = Slatestorm, Silentshadow, RattlepawCliffnotes: aka, i went too deep with this; pick from these guys who goes to kitty hell because i know a few of them deserve it |D also you don't have to add any of this to the front page, i just sorta did too much Dewripple - a powerful silver and white tabby tom with green eyes. a skilled tactician and eager defender, he put his duty before his family, rarely acknowledging his kits Morningdrift - a large dilute calico tabby with amber eyes; a doe-eyed queen who's heart only belonged to dewripple. she believed having kits with him would force him to give her more of his time, but that did the opposite. she grew bitter toward her litter, leaving them even before they were apprenticed and having nothing to do with them Darkstep - a handsome cream tom with chocolate brown points and pale blue eyes. egotistical and twisted, yet eerily charismatic. he courted silentfall, not due to love, but rather she was an easy target. he got away with whatever he wanted with her, and when their first litter of kits proved to be "too small" and "too weak", one even being stillborn, darkstep took them away and killed them himself. he decided their second litter was passable, going so far as to even name the strongest after himself. Silentfall - a thick-furred calico molly with amber eyes. a mute warrior who craved any and all attention, she attracted the attention of darkstep. after her mate killed their first litter (he blamed her publicly for their deaths and claimed she had taken them out of camp one night, and had she been able to speak then she could have called for help when a hawk snagged them both), she was desperate for "perfect" kits. even if she couldn't speak she pushed her kits to be perfect; ebonypaw was pushed to the brink of exhaustion and died during her apprenticeship due to neglect and stress. darksong made it to warriorhood, yet any step he made out of line, any mistake he made, was punished. claws from his father, hard stares from his mother. Snowpine - a small but fluffy white molly with gray points and blue eyes. gentle and loving, she was the only love that darksong had ever known. they became mates early on, and their romance was cut abruptly short when snowpine died delivering their kits, two of their kits stillborn as well. Darksong - a large seal point tom with stunning blue eyes. pushed to perfection by his parents, all he had known was scornful glares and angry claws. he vowed to not be like his parents when he found out he was to be a father himself, but then snowpine died alongside lilykit and mistlekit. his father told him it was because they were imperfect, his mother silently agreeing. he wanted to disagree, but then hollypaw died not long into her apprentice training. she had not been strong enough, not smart enough. so he pushed wisteriapaw, telling himself that he was only pushing her so that she wouldn't meet the same fate as her littermates, yet as time went on, he became more and more like his parents, a shadow of his father and a memory of his mother.
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 18, 2024 13:06:17 GMT -5
|| Help please - I donโt know whether to be afraid of or impressed by Feathertalon right now
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 18, 2024 13:07:40 GMT -5
Alright, just a few more questions then ~ What's the current "cover story" for Flinthawk's death? - murdered by a passing predator - his body wasnโt found for a few days so most of the scents had faded and Briarstar wasโฆ thorough in cleaning up the scene Was Cedarstar well-loved by the Clan? Does anyone suspect foul play? - in a couple of places yes so far Does anybody suspect Briarstar, specifically? - not overly but down for that to change
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Post by ๐ก๐ธ๐ฌ๐ด๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ท๐ท๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ on Jun 18, 2024 13:14:00 GMT -5
I think Cedarstar was probably well loved by most, Oakstreak specifically just hated him for personal reasons.
As for Flinthawk's death details, I might leave that up to the others to decide
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Post by Feathertalon on Jun 18, 2024 13:18:06 GMT -5
yeah, i feel like Cedar was your average leader. i think we've decided on him being a dumbass at times, but beyond that? not bad, not overly great
also, i'll try working on a sorrel/caribou post, but i'm supposed to be leaving here pretty soon so i may not have time for replies, but i'll be around to chat still!
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Post by Tealraven on Jun 18, 2024 13:34:41 GMT -5
Interesting, interesting... so Paintedmask could be the red herring in this plot. To those who suspect foul play, he's probably the obvious culprit behind Flinthawk's death; I'm guessing it was well-known that he had aspirations to leadership, and from the sound of it, he's not too well-liked either?
On the other hand, perhaps there's a small group who believes the "official" story and thinks Briar sniped Painted's rightful spot as deputy? A group who supports him as leader instead, especially now that Briar has kits? Perhaps his supporters could also be split on forcing Briar to step down peacefully vs. a more direct (lethal) approach, and that's where Dark Forest influences come into play ๐
Then again, I'm new here, so take all of this with a grain of salt xD I'm mostly trying to figure out how to seamlessly integrate my characters with the ongoing drama without them sounding totally clueless as to what's been going on lol
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 18, 2024 13:36:42 GMT -5
|| Oooo I kinda like your idea @tealraven a clan divided type thing
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Post by ๐ก๐ธ๐ฌ๐ด๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ท๐ท๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ on Jun 18, 2024 13:44:07 GMT -5
Sounds awesome tbh!
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Post by whispering on Jun 18, 2024 13:45:30 GMT -5
fallenmoon -- First mc of coniferclan. A long-legged, graceful molly with long black smoke fur. with rounded ears and a stunning pair of green eyes. She was exiled after breaking the medicine cat code and bearing kits. She and her kits left in the cold of winter. Her children froze to death two days into their banishment. Maddened with grief, Fallenmoon spent moons plotting how she'd seek revenge and bring justice for the lost lives of her innocent kits. Finally, weakened by hunger and on the brink of death, she returned to ConiferClan territory. The old molly marched right into the heart of her old home and swore a curse for the next generations to come; Before I take my last breath you shall feel my wrath. Your queens will suffer fatal labors, and your kits born weak and stillborn. ConiferClan shall never know the joy of bringing new life for it will always come with a price. Hailstar, shocked and furious by her threats, ordered his warriors upon her. Fallenmoon, weakened from moons of living on her own, died quickly under the first blow. Hailstar reassured his clan that they would be safe and to ignore such silly threats. That night, the first queen of many, died bearing her kits along with her whole litter. Thus starting the terrible ConiferClan curse. (now i assume over the years elders and higher-ups buried this knowledge due to not wanting cats to live in fear? idk yall can add on where yall deem necessary and make adjustments <3 i may have started writing out her full-story) eta: hailstar is the first leader whoops!
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Post by Tealraven on Jun 18, 2024 13:49:00 GMT -5
Another idea that just popped into my head (hope I'm not getting too carried away here) -
Briarstar managed to conceal her pregnancy from the Clan, right? Maybe some of the cats who are skeptical of Flinthawk's cause of death are unsettled by the secrecy. At this point in time, there really isn't any reason to think she was involved at all. But a betrayal of trust / lack of transparency kind of situation could be the catalyst for some starting to suspect her as well. Like, if she hid this from us, what else could she be hiding, and why? Has she been lying to us this whole time? etc.
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 18, 2024 13:50:38 GMT -5
|| Get out of my head or Iโll start making you pay rent
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Post by Feathertalon on Jun 18, 2024 13:55:48 GMT -5
Blessed with good lore today, my hunger is sated
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Post by Feathertalon on Jun 18, 2024 13:59:41 GMT -5
Another idea that just popped into my head (hope I'm not getting too carried away here) - Briarstar managed to conceal her pregnancy from the Clan, right? Maybe some of the cats who are skeptical of Flinthawk's cause of death are unsettled by the secrecy. At this point in time, there really isn't any reason to think she was involved at all. But a betrayal of trust / lack of transparency kind of situation could be the catalyst for some starting to suspect her as well. Like, if she hid this from us, what else could she be hiding, and why? Has she been lying to us this whole time? etc. Painted will be using this argument now, please and thank you ๐
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 18, 2024 14:05:37 GMT -5
|| she lost a life having her kits? It must a sign that Starclan are unhappy with her becoming leader
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Post by Tealraven on Jun 18, 2024 14:05:46 GMT -5
Tbh I was thinking of my apprentice Fogpaw, being the smart idiot that he is, starting to put together some of these pieces and getting in trouble for it. Like, dangerous trouble. He thinks if he can solve the mystery he'll earn his warrior name or something, but are there any cats who would threaten or otherwise silence an apprentice (or anyone else for that matter) who gets too close to uncovering the truth?
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Post by whispering on Jun 18, 2024 14:10:02 GMT -5
hmm i'd volunteer silent for silencing hush him since she's only a few moons into being a warrior we could say they were friends the more she visits her father, the more aggressive she will become. she possesses the "monster" that her parents bore more than her siblings and maybe fogpaw will come to her when he feels like he's really close(he's basically got it on the nailxD) and she loses it because she was supposed to be the one to out it (which ultimately she will out it to painted after flint convinces her to confide in him and he will take it from there)
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Post by ๐ก๐ธ๐ฌ๐ด๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ท๐ท๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ on Jun 18, 2024 14:20:11 GMT -5
Damn yall just made Oakstreak's life a lot harder lol he has to compete with half of the clan against his beloved nephew in defense of a cat he is at most very neutral about
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Post by Tealraven on Jun 18, 2024 14:24:48 GMT -5
I don't want to have Fog be exactly right about everything because that feels a little like metagaming to me, but I think he'll come very close. Close enough to put Silent on edge and make her do something rash.
I'm reading her profile and I don't think they'd be friends, though? They don't have much in common.
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Post by whispering on Jun 18, 2024 14:38:29 GMT -5
fairrr, okay maybe eventually when he feels heโs close he comes to question silent?
also, iโm slowly working on replies
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Post by Tealraven on Jun 18, 2024 14:52:56 GMT -5
Sure, that works! I'm just undecided if I want to kill him off or have him survive the encounter but end up maimed in some way. Whichever best serves the plot I suppose.
If he feels he has a solid enough case I think he might try to convince some other cats of his position. I doubt any of them would be inclined to believe an apprentice though (unless they happen to be fellow 'paws). But if he's attacked then it may lend credence to his ideas, further stirring the pot. Maybe it happens towards the end of the main plot, if / when you guys decide to up the stakes before the climax. Either way, I'm excited to see what the outcome of everything will be!
Now I just have to figure out starters... -v-
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Post by ๐๐๐๐๐ข on Jun 18, 2024 16:37:33 GMT -5
i very much enjoyed reading up on the lore after coming home from work lolol
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Post by Tealraven on Jun 18, 2024 18:22:54 GMT -5
i somehow managed to completely miss Whisperingโs lore dump with Fallenmoon but now i love it
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 19, 2024 3:21:57 GMT -5
|| Rather looking forward to roleplaying Honeyskip for the first time - she's gonna be so proud of her boys helping their leader.
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 19, 2024 3:39:01 GMT -5
|| Did my best to update the ancestor's allegiance thing on the front page. Torn between whether I'll add all the kits or whether it'll just overcrowd things, thoughts on that would be appreciated.
I've added a couple more dark-side kits I am your father will elaborate on backstories I've thought for them in a little bit.
Will also be adding the kit-curse to the plot page as well at some point, just need to think of how I'll put that into words.
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 19, 2024 11:24:41 GMT -5
The Queen's Curse {open to suggestions on less cheesy names}
In the first moons of ConiferClan's existence, its leaders would make a mistake that would wound the Clan's very nature for generations to come. The Clan's first medicine cat, a talented molly named Fallenmoon, had harboured a secret inside her for weeks. She was expecting kits - an outright violation of the medicine cat's code. Fallenmoon had always believed it a ridiculous rule, and believed her Clan would come to learn reason when they realised she - a loyal and loved Clanmate, had decided to breech that one small rule.But her kits are born, and her dream litter quickly became a nightmare. The Clan learned of her break of the laws of StarClan - and still so new to this world, were too afraid of what bad-luck breaking the rules might bring onto them. Hailstar, the first of our leaders, gave the order to drive the medicine cat off ConiferClan lands. With her law-breaking kits in tow. Several cries of horror went up - leafbare had been harsh and showed every promise of only becomming harsher. They had already lost several strong warriors to the cold and hunger that season, there was very little chance a queen and her small kits would stand any chance fending for themselves beyond the Clan's expansive territories. But Hailstar stood by his order, and the queen and her small kits were escorted from Camp.Her kits wouldn't live to see more than two sunrises beyond Clan's camp. And the medicine cat buried a part of herself along with her two kits.For moons Fallenmoon plotted her Clan's demise, just payment for the death of her innocent younglings. Until finally, seasons later she would return, a haggard shell of the fine medicine cat ConiferClan had known in her time with them. But Hailstar would never forget the face of the molly he had sent to die in exile. She placed a curse on the Clan:Before I take my last breath you shall feel my wrath. Your queens will suffer fatal labors, and your kits born weak and stillborn. ConiferClan shall never know the joy of bringing new life for it will always come with a price.
She had barely gotten out her last words before Hailstar ordered his warriors to end it, end her.
The fight lasted a matter of moments, fine, trained warriors barely struggling against a medicine cat who'd spent moons alone and starving, wallowing in her own grief. She was killed, but her curse would linger.
Taking its first victims that same night, a Queen and each of her kittens stolen to the stars before any of her litter could breathe their first. Their blood would be the first of many that would come to stain ConiferClan camp. Hardly a queen or a kitting would go by without a fatality in the moons since Fallenmoon breathed her last.
The leaders and medicine cats would do their best to bury the memory with the old medicine cat, but the truth lies in the pudding. Queens and their litters have been buried long before the time in ConiferClan camp.
and its only going to get worse.
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Post by ladylantsov on Jun 19, 2024 11:25:05 GMT -5
|| Tried I really did.
any amendments to request, anything I've missed.
Am I okay to add it to the front page?
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