Asexual
#8B0000
Name Colour
🎃👻🦇Brambleheart🦇👻🎃
this halloween i am doing the spookiest thing of all- an exam!
Pronouns: She/her, they/them
|
Post by 🎃👻🦇Brambleheart🦇👻🎃 on Jun 4, 2024 21:44:28 GMT -5
My guy WAS an apprentice when it happened
|
|
|
Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jun 5, 2024 1:37:29 GMT -5
I felt so bad for Shadowsight in TBC. The dude was a legit victim, and constantly was treated badly by everyone. He got so much blame for things that weren't even his fault. So much gaslighting that arc ugh
|
|
|
Post by Whispering Willow on Jun 6, 2024 17:05:23 GMT -5
With 7 votes for Justified and 15 votes for Unjustified, Mothwing is Unjustified! Next scenario: Tigerheart 2: In The Forgotten Warrior, Dawnpelt accuses Jayfeather of murdering Flametail during a Gathering. Tigerheart supports her in her accusation, claiming that he believes her. Although most cats do not believe her, it is said that Jayfeather should step down from his medicine cat position. He later tells Dovewing in The Last Hope that he has to support her, and will not clarify if he believes her or not. Was Tigerheart justified in supporting Dawnpelt’s accusation, even though almost no other cat believed her? Two scenes are provided below: Dawnpelt's accusation and Tigerheart's justification to Dovewing. Dawnpelt's accusation: Tigerheart and Dovewing: Edit: fixed scenario a bit, forgot to change it from Tigerheart not believing Dawnpelt to refusing to clarify his position to Dovewing. I initially misremembered before I read the scenes.
|
|
|
Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Jun 6, 2024 18:33:28 GMT -5
I publicly supported my sister's crazy accusations in which she accused my girlfriend's friend of murder even though I know the friend didn't do it. Now my girlfriend is mad at me for some reason but I just didn't want my sister to be embarrassed. AITA?
|
|
|
Post by Purdyisbestboi on Jun 7, 2024 6:35:38 GMT -5
I publicly supported my sister's crazy accusations in which she accused my girlfriend's friend of murder even though I know the friend didn't do it. Now my girlfriend is mad at me for some reason but I just didn't want my sister to be embarrassed. AITA? You should post that on Reddit without mentioning warriors at all and see what happens
|
|
Non-binary
flipwish
when do we get more hairless warrior cats
|
Post by flipwish on Jun 7, 2024 12:56:31 GMT -5
I don't even think this was fair to Dawnpelt. I'm no expert and I'm not entirely sure how to word it but like...it just doesn't seem cool to be like "ah yes, I will make this spiral further, this seems like a good way to support my sister through this time of grief she is obviously struggling with."
on a related note idc what people say about current tigerstar- from what I remember oots Tigerheart was him at his worst.
|
|
|
Post by Whispering Willow on Jun 8, 2024 17:15:27 GMT -5
With 2 votes for Justified and 21 votes for Unjustified, Tigerheart is Unjustified! Next scenario (this reminded me how annoying Tigerstar and Mistystar were in this book omg): Leafstar: In The Raging Storm, SkyClan faces conflict with ShadowClan, with ShadowClan trespassing and Tigerstar demanding to hunt on their territory. Because of this and the issues with Darktail’s Kin, over time, Leafstar begins to feel that the other Clans are too hungry for battle and that her Clan is unwanted and treated poorly, and she debates whether or not to return to the gorge now that Darktail is dead. It is also discovered that ShadowClan may have poisoned SkyClan’s prey to drive them away (later revealed to be Juniperclaw). During an argument at a Gathering over the conflict and the medicine cats’ vision that the Clan must stay together, Leafstar declares her decision to leave, and after more thought, she finalizes this decision. Was Leafstar justified in deciding to leave the lake territories? Three scenes are provided below: Tigerstar's demand for Leafstar to let ShadowClan hunt on her land, Leafstar's declaration that SkyClan will leave, and Leafstar's final decision. Tigerstar's demand: Leafstar's declaration: Leafstar's final decision:
|
|
|
Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jun 8, 2024 18:42:25 GMT -5
She was very justified. The other Clans treated SkyClan like shit, especially Tigerheartstar and ShadowClan.
|
|
|
Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jun 9, 2024 0:58:24 GMT -5
For sure. Her best interest was the safety of her Clan
|
|
|
Post by silverstarpenguin on Jun 9, 2024 2:25:33 GMT -5
She was more than justified to do so. The way the other Clans treated SkyClan - Tigerstar walking in as if it were his own, Bramblestar not having any support, Harestar waiting to see what the others decided and Mistystar greedily insisting that her Clan isn't interested in this matter - it seems logical for her to make the best decision for her Clan, even if it means excluding StarClan's wishes.
|
|
Asexual
leafbush!
on thunder and shadow, yayaya
|
Post by leafbush! on Jun 9, 2024 6:51:41 GMT -5
if it's for tigerstar 2, its always unjustified if it's against tigerstar 2, always justified
|
|
|
Post by Whispering Willow on Jun 10, 2024 17:05:05 GMT -5
With 20 votes for Justified and 0 votes for Unjustified, Leafstar is Justified! Next scenario: Hawkheart: In Bluestar’s Prophecy, Goosefeather reads a sign in the parted fur of a vole that WindClan will destroy ThunderClan if they do not attack first and destroy their medicine supplies, and they attack WindClan. In the battle, Moonflower attempts to destroy the medicine supplies with Stonepelt, but she flees when they are chased out. As she leaves, Hawkheart intercepts her, having waited outside the den, and he attacks her, eventually killing her. This action stands against Heatherstar’s previous orders for the medicine cat to focus on healing rather than fighting, and afterwards, he expresses no remorse, even later teasing Bluepaw. Was Hawkheart justified in killing Moonflower after she fled from the medicine den? Two scenes are provided below: Moonflower's death and Bluepaw's interaction with Hawkheart at the following Gathering. Moonflower's death: Gathering:
|
|
|
Post by User33 on Jun 10, 2024 18:14:17 GMT -5
Why do I always have this small feeling to defend Hawkheart whenever this question pops up. I didn't even like the guy when I first read Bluestar's Prophecy
|
|
Pansexual
Marigold 🎃
Keep up, I'm too fast, I'm too fast. Push my foot up on that pedal, then I'm gone.
|
Post by Marigold 🎃 on Jun 10, 2024 18:23:49 GMT -5
IMO, Hawkheart was fully justified for fighting back when Moonflower attempted to destroy the supplies. However, killing her even after she fled was not justified, so that's what I'm voting.
|
|
|
Post by moongloweevee on Jun 10, 2024 19:10:16 GMT -5
A lot of people forget that Moonflower wasn't the first cat to run out of the medicine cat den. Stonepelt, who was injured, ran out first yet Hawkheart went after Moonflower- don't know if it was hesitation or just didn't have time to jump on Stonepelt. While it was justified in wanting to defend his herbs, he was unjustifed in killing.
|
|
|
Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jun 11, 2024 0:12:59 GMT -5
Definitely unjustified. Moonflower was beaten. He didn't have to kill her, and he did so on cold blood.
Then the asshole mocks her death, to her traumatized daughter. Dude is horrible
|
|
#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
|
Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jun 11, 2024 16:34:46 GMT -5
Unjustified.
He had a right to defend his herbs, but not kill.
|
|
|
Post by Purdyisbestboi on Jun 11, 2024 17:45:23 GMT -5
He’s such an asshole about it, and even the slightest bit of justification goes away as soon as he does that
|
|
|
Post by Whispering Willow on Jun 12, 2024 16:50:59 GMT -5
With 6 votes for Justified and 16 votes for Unjustified, Hawkheart is Unjustified! Next scenario: Sunbeam: In Wind, Sunbeam learns from WindClan that her family is living near their territory, and with Squirrelstar’s indirect permission, she goes to see them. She finds that Berryheart is injured and, unable to ignore her worry, she ends up stealing Jayfeather and Alderheart’s herbs to treat her mother, with the help of Nightheart and Bayshine. Berryheart, however, does not want the herbs. Was Sunbeam justified in stealing herbs to help Berryheart, rather than asking Squirrelstar and the medicine cats? (credit to Brambleheart) Edit: removed the part at the end about Berryheart since it made the question more complicated than it needs to be, and doesn't have much to do with the question at hand. The herb stealing scene is provided below. Stealing herbs:
|
|
|
Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jun 13, 2024 2:29:33 GMT -5
I think Berryheart is a horrible cat, but Sunbeam loves her mother still. She was in a really tight spot, and she knee if she asked for herbs she would've been denied.
I'd say she was justified. Her heart was in the right place, and she knew her mother was very sick. Honestly if she didn't, I feel like she'd be written off as selfish or a coward.
Can't blame the girl for wanting to save her mom. Even if said mom is awful
|
|
|
Post by Whispering Willow on Jun 14, 2024 17:10:06 GMT -5
With 13 votes for Justified and 7 votes for Unjustified, Sunbeam is Justified! Next scenario: Tallstar 2: In Starlight and Onestar’s Confession, as he is dying, Tallstar decides to give Onewhisker the deputy position instead of Mudclaw, believing that Onewhisker will be able to lead WindClan peacefully and maintain a friendship with ThunderClan, whereas Mudclaw is too aggressive and focused on maintaining distance from the other Clans. It is noted that this is unusual and that Tallstar did not say the correct words. Moreover, in Onestar’s Confession, it is shown that Onewhisker does not desire leadership and is content as an ordinary warrior, and that he is clueless in regards to leadership due to having no experience. Was Tallstar justified in giving Mudclaw’s position to Onewhisker, considering that Onewhisker was inexperienced and was not consulted prior, and that, while being hostile toward the other Clans, Mudclaw was experienced? Three brief scenes are provided below: Tallstar's decision (the OC version since it includes everything important in Onewhisker's POV), a snippet of Onewhisker knowing he doesn't want to be leader, and a snippet of his lack of leadership experience. Tallstar's decision: Not wanting to be leader: Inexperience:
|
|
|
Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jun 14, 2024 22:49:13 GMT -5
He could've chosen a more experienced warrior. Ashfoot would've been a great leader imho. So I only say unjustified because he made a bad choice in choosing Onewhisker
|
|
|
Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jun 15, 2024 4:39:51 GMT -5
Neither works imo. Mudclaw would've been a dangerous leader and Onewhisker was too inexperienced. He made the right choice in giving deputy to someone else, but not to Onewhisker
|
|
Asexual
leafbush!
on thunder and shadow, yayaya
|
Post by leafbush! on Jun 15, 2024 4:53:31 GMT -5
With 20 votes for Justified and 0 votes for Unjustified, Leafstar is Justified! Next scenario: Hawkheart: In Bluestar’s Prophecy, Goosefeather reads a sign in the parted fur of a vole that WindClan will destroy ThunderClan if they do not attack first and destroy their medicine supplies, and they attack WindClan. In the battle, Moonflower attempts to destroy the medicine supplies with Stonepelt, but she flees when they are chased out. As she leaves, Hawkheart intercepts her, having waited outside the den, and he attacks her, eventually killing her. This action stands against Heatherstar’s previous orders for the medicine cat to focus on healing rather than fighting, and afterwards, he expresses no remorse, even later teasing Bluepaw. Was Hawkheart justified in killing Moonflower after she fled from the medicine den? Two scenes are provided below: Moonflower's death and Bluepaw's interaction with Hawkheart at the following Gathering. Moonflower's death: Gathering: ok I know I'm late but I just absolutely hate hawkheart istg im going to plan out a fanfiction where blue kills him is 3 different brutal ways
|
|
Asexual
leafbush!
on thunder and shadow, yayaya
|
Post by leafbush! on Jun 15, 2024 4:54:58 GMT -5
also I broke the tie because onewhisker is crowfood. I love tallstar, but not that much
|
|
Pansexual
Marigold 🎃
Keep up, I'm too fast, I'm too fast. Push my foot up on that pedal, then I'm gone.
|
Post by Marigold 🎃 on Jun 15, 2024 11:03:30 GMT -5
Changing who would be leader was justified However changing it to onewhisker instead of any of the better choices was not.
|
|
Non-binary
flipwish
when do we get more hairless warrior cats
|
Post by flipwish on Jun 15, 2024 13:09:28 GMT -5
This is one of the ones I really struggle with imagining as something that can BE all that justified or unjustified. I will say that it was unfair to Onewhisker, absolutely, but at the same time Tallstar was dying and truly believed what he was doing was right and would help prevent violence in the future. The real unfortunate thing here is that no matter who became leader, Tallstar's wish for peace was doomed from the start- petty cruelty and violence is just the way of the clans.
Gotta say though I think Onestar's Confession was cowardly as hell for skipping over so much of his leadership though and this has reminded me of that ):< booooo
|
|
|
Post by Whispering Willow on Jun 16, 2024 15:04:35 GMT -5
No update today - things happened and I don't have time to write it out. Will do so tomorrow.
|
|
|
Post by Whispering Willow on Jun 17, 2024 6:51:43 GMT -5
With 7 votes for Justified and 13 votes for Unjustified, Tallstar is Unjustified! Next scenario: Raggedpelt: In Yellowfang’s Secret, Raggedpelt and Yellowpaw discover that Raggedpelt’s father is a kittypet named Hal. Hal initially rejects him, claiming that he never knew Featherstorm, Raggedpelt’s mother. When the kittypets invade ShadowClan to save Russetpaw and Boulder, Raggedpelt confronts Hal, and Hal taunts him for having kittypet blood, causing Raggedpelt to kill him. Yellowfang is horrified, even more so when Russetpaw reveals that Hal had been her father. Was Raggedpelt justified in killing Hal? Two brief scenes are provided below: Hal's rejection of Raggedpelt and Raggedpelt's later confrontation with him. Hal Rejects Raggedpelt: Raggedpelt Confronts Hal:
|
|
|
Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jun 18, 2024 1:37:09 GMT -5
I'd say unjustified. While Hal did invade the Clan and Raggedpelt was defending them, he still got way too violent especially for an experienced warrior who didn't have much reason to kill him
Then again, when was Ragged ever actually justified in anything he did
|
|