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Post by Katanaheart on Mar 22, 2024 13:30:07 GMT -5
Dang it, they’re tied. No moving on from Envy just yet, unfortunately.
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Post by Pixie on Mar 22, 2024 13:31:44 GMT -5
Dang it, they’re tied. No moving on from Envy just yet, unfortunately. There is no method to my madness 😏 I’ll lock it when I feel like it frfr
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Post by Katanaheart on Mar 22, 2024 13:36:55 GMT -5
Dang it, they’re tied. No moving on from Envy just yet, unfortunately. There is no method to my madness 😏 I’ll lock it when I feel like it frfr I was hoping it would be soon before we ended up with a tie. That Tigerstar one was so long. Oh! Which images have you been using for results btw? They’ve looked awesome!
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Post by Pixie on Mar 22, 2024 13:56:16 GMT -5
There is no method to my madness 😏 I’ll lock it when I feel like it frfr I was hoping it would be soon before we ended up with a tie. That Tigerstar one was so long. Oh! Which images have you been using for results btw? They’ve looked awesome! They’re all official arts from other countries!
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Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
November is hitting me in the face for no reason...
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 22, 2024 15:15:55 GMT -5
Hm, I guess I can see that. But I still think Leopardstar would fit well too since she's literally referred to and known for being prideful/proud in the books leading to her aligning herself with Tigerstar temporarily, which was arguably the biggest mistake of her life. While Onestar would also still fit due to his own pride (and fear of being judged by others) causing him to loose a mate (Smoke), loose a previously valued friendship (Firestar), resulted in the deaths of multiple ShadowClan cats because he refused them herbs, as well indirectly contributing to more cats dying because of his son's actions which he could've prevented by intervening sooner (though Onestar was, of course, not directly responsible for Darktail's actions). His pride quite literally came back to haunt and punish/kill him in the form of his vengeful son Darktail. I haven’t read Onestar’s super edition yet so I can’t comment further on him, as he doesn’t really feel like Pride to me. His pride I also wouldn’t say is why his friendship with Firestar ebbed away, that’s more so due to the intense Clan politics he was juggling at the time of his ascension. If he had continued being the friendly cat that we knew prior, someone else could have taken advantage with how WindClan would roll over for ThunderClan in that case or Onestar would have had another coup on his paws. Leopardstar also somewhat fits but I feel she lost a lot of her pride later on into her leadership and after Hawkfrost died once RiverClan lost a lot of their relevance. With Onestar, his pride moreso reads as him being scared for his own reputation, both in his own Clan and among the other Clans. This applies to his relationship with Smoke (Darktail's mother) and Firestar, though in case of the former, there also were other factors at play since WindClan was not exactly doing well during the time of Onewhisker being mates with her tbf. As for him and Firestar, I think he still could've stayed on friendly but perhaps in more distant terms with him. Tallstar managed it as well, after all. There was no need for the amount of hostility Onestar threw at Firestar in canon imo, it was clearly just him trying to prove to himself and his Clan that "Onestar/WindClan did not need Firestar/ThunderClan". I disagree. In OotS, she still displayed a lot of pride (but also paranoia) during the drought problem in TFA, so one book before her death. As for RiverClan loosing relevance and her thus not being shown much as the prideful individual she was, I feel like that moreso had to do with the writing and the decision to place RiverClan so far away from the central protagonist ThunderClan in the lake territories. Leopardstar was shown to be prideful during PoT when Hollypaw snuck into the makeshift/temporary RiverClan camp on the Gathering island and while we still don't know the exact reason, she also aligned herself briefly with Onestar in order to attack ThunderClan during the eclipse battle (though she appeared to have not been at the actual fight) which Onestar himself stated was done to "show ThunderClan that they are not in charge of the other Clans". That certainly implies a level of pridefulness on both Leopardstar and Onestar.
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Post by Starflower on Mar 22, 2024 15:21:18 GMT -5
I’m putting Ivypool bc think about all the times she envied Dovewing for being in the 4!
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Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
November is hitting me in the face for no reason...
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 22, 2024 15:23:44 GMT -5
Looks like Hawkfrost is winning this one. I'm fine with that (even though I voted Ivypool) because it does fit. Probably even better than her in retrospect since she did get over her envy unlike him tbf.
This means we got three brown tabbies for these sins in a row so far lol (plus tortie Mapleshade for Wrath)!Hoping Sol wins Sloth, Leopardstar or Onestar get Pride and Ashfur gets Lust. Because that would just fit very well imo. Scratch what I said here. Pixie Look the poll now, quick, while Ivypool is ahead!
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Post by Katanaheart on Mar 22, 2024 15:25:54 GMT -5
I’m hoping there is waiting since Hawkfrost stayed envious while Ivypool grew up. Unless she’s been envying Dovewing recently in Shadow and Thunder, which I haven’t read yet.
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Aroace
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does the candy hunting remind anyone else of cookie clicker? no… just me? okay.
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Post by 🎃ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ👻 on Mar 22, 2024 15:42:55 GMT -5
I’m hoping there is waiting since Hawkfrost stayed envious while Ivypool grew up. Unless she’s been envying Dovewing recently in Shadow and Thunder, which I haven’t read yet. She’s been fine, I think she’s 100% grown out of it.
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Post by moongloweevee on Mar 22, 2024 15:44:54 GMT -5
I voted for Hawkfrost because Ivypool has grown out of it like others has stated
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Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
November is hitting me in the face for no reason...
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 22, 2024 16:28:47 GMT -5
I’m hoping there is waiting since Hawkfrost stayed envious while Ivypool grew up. Unless she’s been envying Dovewing recently in Shadow and Thunder, which I haven’t read yet. There is unfortunately still some tension between Ivypool and Dovewing in ASC (in Thunder to be more precise). But it does not have anything to do with jealousy on Ivypool's part and moreso to do with Dovewing's mate Tigerstar II. They did make up in the end there as well though. And I (as well as others who voted for her) do agree that Ivypool certainly has grown out of feeling envy for Dovewing completely, she already did so all the way back in OotS imo.
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Asexual
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can't decide of I should keep my original joining name or switch back to houndsteeth....
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Post by volchitsa4 on Mar 22, 2024 17:42:51 GMT -5
I voted Hawkfrost!
I would be fine with Ivypool winning envy though I do agree she grew out of her envious stage.
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Post by Pixie on Mar 22, 2024 20:19:02 GMT -5
I’ll lock the poll tomorrow morning, maybe around 8 am est.
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Post by Starflower on Mar 22, 2024 20:19:24 GMT -5
Cool!
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Post by Pixie on Mar 23, 2024 7:12:33 GMT -5
I was going to lock this but it’s tied lol
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Post by moongloweevee on Mar 23, 2024 8:48:03 GMT -5
Why not both?
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Post by Katanaheart on Mar 23, 2024 11:24:45 GMT -5
At least this potentially gives time for the Virtues to play catch-up with the Sins.
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Post by Pixie on Mar 23, 2024 11:46:53 GMT -5
IVYPOOL WINS
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Post by Starflower on Mar 23, 2024 12:02:58 GMT -5
YAYAYAYYYYY!!!!!!
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Post by Pixie on Mar 23, 2024 12:05:07 GMT -5
Let's talk about how hard the Polish art goes tho.....
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Post by Starflower on Mar 23, 2024 12:15:06 GMT -5
Let's talk about how hard the Polish art goes tho..... Wow that is so cool! Is that the cover of a book or fan art?
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Post by Pixie on Mar 23, 2024 12:16:21 GMT -5
Let's talk about how hard the Polish art goes tho..... Wow that is so cool! Is that the cover of a book or fan art? It's the splash page for the Polish cover of Fading Echoes!
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Post by Katanaheart on Mar 23, 2024 12:19:18 GMT -5
And it seems she remains as envious as she was previously. Going to be super weird seeing Ivypool with a bunch of other villains.
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Aroace
#ffa100
Name Colour
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑
Villain Enjoyer
November is hitting me in the face for no reason...
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 23, 2024 13:02:06 GMT -5
SO HAPPY IVYPOOL DID END UP WINNING <3
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