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Post by Wolfyy- on Mar 4, 2024 21:52:20 GMT -5
BEFORE Spottedleaf's Heart was released, what did you think of him?
(Obviously everyone agrees he's icky after reading it though.)
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Mar 4, 2024 21:57:42 GMT -5
I've always disliked Thistleclaw. SH didn't really do much to affect anything for me.
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Post by Slightdapple on Mar 4, 2024 22:21:13 GMT -5
I never really liked him, especially not in BP. SpH just made me hate him more.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 5, 2024 6:08:45 GMT -5
I actually liked him, but considering the novella ruined him, you can't even enjoy him as a villain either...
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 5, 2024 11:49:00 GMT -5
I kinda like how he was just a normal jerk with ego issues. I remember there being discourse when it was first revealed he was in the Dark Forest after death, since some people argued he wasn't "evil" enough for that (I blame them for SH's release /hj), but I actually really liked the inference that just being a generally an overly-hostile, argumentative, violent dude is enough to go to the DF without necessarily cold-blood murdering someone.
The shoehorning of Dark Forest training into his story with the advent of SH ticked me off. It felt unnecessary, as if the authors didn't know how to show a character was evil anymore without having them being intimately involved in DF machinations.
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*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 5, 2024 16:40:48 GMT -5
I didn't like him, thought he wasn't a well written villain. I dislike him even more after Spottedleaf's Heart.
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Mar 6, 2024 19:43:06 GMT -5
This is why I’m annoyed that Moonkitti put him in her banned list. If not for spottedleafs heart, he’d be an amazing character for her to talk about.
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Post by vectoring34 on Mar 6, 2024 22:19:40 GMT -5
Great character, I love how he went from someone who had flaws but wasn't really so bad to someone who destroyed their own life in grief after a tragic event. Spottedleaf's Heart doesn't ruin that anymore than Redtail's Debt ruins Redtail.
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Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 7, 2024 8:09:21 GMT -5
I thought Thistleclaw was a piece of work in BP but did consider some of his moments to be interesting and his rivalry with Bluestar to be fun as a concept back then. He was always lowkey concerning though, considering his obvious bloodlust (him fighting the dog as an apprentice and how he attacked Oakheart saying something along the lines of "we need to mark our borders with the blood of our enemies" afterwards as well as the scene with Tiny really stayed with me after reading those scenes). He was a vicious creep as a DF spirit in OotS towards Ivypool and how he injured Antpelt but rather unmemorable/forgettable in TBC on Ashfur's side. I suppose he did have potential as an antagonist in BP and part of the villain cast in OotS but that's it.
SpH just made him so much worse in a new way/on a different level. Which is also the reason why I don't like talking or thinking about this character too much these days because he really just makes me feel greatly uncomfortable.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Mar 7, 2024 17:09:44 GMT -5
This is why I’m annoyed that Moonkitti put him in her banned list. If not for spottedleafs heart, he’d be an amazing character for her to talk about. She probably wouldn't talk about him because of the discourse it could start. I don't think she has anything against his character, it's just that what he did in Spottedleaf's Heart is basically what everyone remembers him by and I'm sure she wouldn't like to touch on that
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Mar 7, 2024 18:07:21 GMT -5
This is why I’m annoyed that Moonkitti put him in her banned list. If not for spottedleafs heart, he’d be an amazing character for her to talk about. She probably wouldn't talk about him because of the discourse it could start. I don't think she has anything against his character, it's just that what he did in Spottedleaf's Heart is basically what everyone remembers him by and I'm sure she wouldn't like to touch on that Exactly. Spottedleafs Heart was such a bad book.
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