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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Feb 22, 2024 15:13:39 GMT -5
I am staying away from it. I've heard some concerning things about the production choices that make me think the showrunners do not understand the original series well.
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Post by {Azure} on Feb 22, 2024 15:27:35 GMT -5
imma watch it too, i'm desperate for avatar content
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Post by کیوان on Feb 22, 2024 15:50:55 GMT -5
I've heard about a number of controversial decisions in the storytelling, so I'll let the ATLA community sort this one out.
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Post by Sunleap24973 on Feb 22, 2024 15:53:02 GMT -5
I've heard about a number of controversial decisions in the storytelling, so I'll let the ATLA community sort this one out. Sorry, what decisions are you talking about? I haven't really been following the show but I'm curious.
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Post by کیوان on Feb 22, 2024 15:54:47 GMT -5
I've heard about a number of controversial decisions in the storytelling, so I'll let the ATLA community sort this one out. Sorry, what decisions are you talking about? I haven't really been following the show but I'm curious. Just some general stuff that doesn't really do the original justice, such as Sokka no longer being sexist in the remake, when it's something he learns to overcome as the story progresses in the original. There's more, I'm sure, but I'm not an ATLA fan, so I'm not the guy to ask.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Feb 22, 2024 16:14:57 GMT -5
Sorry, what decisions are you talking about? I haven't really been following the show but I'm curious. Just some general stuff that doesn't really do the original justice, such as Sokka no longer being sexist in the remake, when it's something he learns to overcome as the story progresses in the original. There's more, I'm sure, but I'm not an ATLA fan, so I'm not the guy to ask. Another big one is that they're not planning to depict the "War in Ba Sing Se" storyline for very (imo) dumb reasoning, something about not wanting the Earth bender culture in the show to be overcast by the siege. Even though, like, the whole point is to show the long-term political and military ramifications of war on centers of power. Like that plot is literally about how pretending the war doesn't exist is terrible. Removing it... well, it sure is a decision.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 22, 2024 16:38:12 GMT -5
Oh, it came out already? Gonna watch it now!
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Post by Sunleap24973 on Feb 22, 2024 16:38:35 GMT -5
Another big one is that they're not planning to depict the "War in Ba Sing Se" storyline for very (imo) dumb reasoning, something about not wanting the Earth bender culture in the show to be overcast by the siege. Even though, like, the whole point is to show the long-term political and military ramifications of war on centers of power. Like that plot is literally about how pretending the war doesn't exist is terrible. Removing it... well, it sure is a decision. Ok, that's pretty dumb. That's one of my favorite storylines in the show.
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Post by valleylight on Feb 22, 2024 17:36:34 GMT -5
Another big one is that they're not planning to depict the "War in Ba Sing Se" storyline for very (imo) dumb reasoning, something about not wanting the Earth bender culture in the show to be overcast by the siege. Even though, like, the whole point is to show the long-term political and military ramifications of war on centers of power. Like that plot is literally about how pretending the war doesn't exist is terrible. Removing it... well, it sure is a decision. Do you remember what the source is where the creators say this? I wanted to look it up so I could view their reasoning, but I haven’t been able to find it Edit: Nvm!
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Post by Pixie on Feb 22, 2024 18:34:38 GMT -5
Just some general stuff that doesn't really do the original justice, such as Sokka no longer being sexist in the remake, when it's something he learns to overcome as the story progresses in the original. There's more, I'm sure, but I'm not an ATLA fan, so I'm not the guy to ask. Another big one is that they're not planning to depict the "War in Ba Sing Se" storyline for very (imo) dumb reasoning, something about not wanting the Earth bender culture in the show to be overcast by the siege. Even though, like, the whole point is to show the long-term political and military ramifications of war on centers of power. Like that plot is literally about how pretending the war doesn't exist is terrible. Removing it... well, it sure is a decision. I saw that from the DisbussingFilm account on Twitter which is a parody account.
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Post by brooksie on Feb 22, 2024 19:30:32 GMT -5
im gonna watch it though im not optimistic, i don't like the reasoning behind cutting storylines (i.e., sokkas sexism "icking them out," like.. its ok to portray bad things its an important and really well done character arc)
but i love avatar so imma give it a shot
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Feb 22, 2024 20:55:12 GMT -5
I had in my 2024 bingo card that there was gonna be a spin off of ATLA...... but this is just live action.... So close 💔💔💔💔
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Feb 22, 2024 21:08:37 GMT -5
Another big one is that they're not planning to depict the "War in Ba Sing Se" storyline for very (imo) dumb reasoning, something about not wanting the Earth bender culture in the show to be overcast by the siege. Even though, like, the whole point is to show the long-term political and military ramifications of war on centers of power. Like that plot is literally about how pretending the war doesn't exist is terrible. Removing it... well, it sure is a decision. I saw that from the DisbussingFilm account on Twitter which is a parody account. Ope my bad, thanks for the correction. I saw it floating around tumblr. There are other changes that I am side-eyeing, though.
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Feb 23, 2024 3:47:13 GMT -5
I’ve watched the first four episodes and they have changed things, but I was pleasantly surprised with how much I’ve loved the first four episodes I was a huge fan of the cartoon, I grew up on it, it was one of my obsessions, so I was naturally pretty skeptical and there are some things I wish they hadn’t changed
But its a lot better than people give it credit for and i hope more people give it a chance because I am desperate for a second and third season
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 23, 2024 11:11:08 GMT -5
And done! The controversies that plagued the production aside, it really is a great adaptation otherwise, especially in how it emphasizes the tragedy of the war. Also, Gordon Cromier is great as Aang!
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 23, 2024 11:18:07 GMT -5
I saw that from the DisbussingFilm account on Twitter which is a parody account. Ope my bad, thanks for the correction. I saw it floating around tumblr. There are other changes that I am side-eyeing, though. Yeah, I saw that too, but I won't trust anything unless I'm seeing it with my own eyes. Tumblr isn't exactly a great news source either. Not unless there's links, but even then, I'd double check. There was also a rumor of Sozin's Comet not being a thing, but I immediately guessed it to be a joke and that's exactly what it had been! It even shows up in the first few minutes of the very first episode!
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Post by Jaysnow on Feb 24, 2024 19:12:54 GMT -5
I had in my 2024 bingo card that there was gonna be a spin off of ATLA...... but this is just live action.... So close 💔💔💔💔 There's an animated film coming out in theaters in 2025. It's gonna be following the gaang in their late 20s/early 30s, I think.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Feb 25, 2024 1:26:45 GMT -5
I had in my 2024 bingo card that there was gonna be a spin off of ATLA...... but this is just live action.... So close 💔💔💔💔 There's an animated film coming out in theaters in 2025. It's gonna be following the gaang in their late 20s/early 30s, I think. No way I predicted ts
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Post by mintleaf2 on Feb 27, 2024 1:03:03 GMT -5
Can't wait to get home and watch it. I was able to watch some of the first episode and it looked pretty good so far. If it gets renewed, may Zutara be canon in this verseplease my zutara heart needs this
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Post by mintleaf2 on Feb 27, 2024 1:08:00 GMT -5
Also other comments:
Sokka’s changes felt pretty minimal in the overall scope of things. Even if he didn’t get the sexism beat out of him by suki, he’s actually one of the characters I think is written well. They seem to be leaning more into a story of responsibility on his shoulders with the tribe, and not feeling like he’s living up to certain expectations with him. But I also haven’t finished the series yet.
As far as the lack of war stuff, I’m not quite sure what you guys mean. I don’t remember the original all that well, but they’ve discussed some stuff of iroh’s background with ba sing se and aren’t shying away from violence. Would love to understand what I’m missing though!
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 27, 2024 11:30:36 GMT -5
Also other comments: Sokka’s changes felt pretty minimal in the overall scope of things. Even if he didn’t get the sexism beat out of him by suki, he’s actually one of the characters I think is written well. They seem to be leaning more into a story of responsibility on his shoulders with the tribe, and not feeling like he’s living up to certain expectations with him. But I also haven’t finished the series yet. As far as the lack of war stuff, I’m not quite sure what you guys mean. I don’t remember the original all that well, but they’ve discussed some stuff of iroh’s background with ba sing se and aren’t shying away from violence. Would love to understand what I’m missing though! Tbh, I feel like the whole sexism thing was blown way out of proportion. Maybe it's just me, but I don't remember it being that important to Sokka anyway, at least when compared to his arc of trying to become a leader and finding his own identity. It's a highly important lesson for him to learn, obviously, but I also remember his sexism being played largely for laughs whenever it showed up and lasting only two episodes (the pilot and during Warriors of Kyoshi, the fourth episode in the entire series). So when everyone was getting up in arms about it, I was incredibly confused. And honestly, the plotline never really made much sense to me in hindsight of Kanna's backstory, considering the entire reason she left the North was because she wanted to get away from all the restrictions. Even if it was a compensation thing, why would Sokka turn into a mini Pakku to the extent that he initially did? Realistically, I doubt Kanna would've allowed it to happen, or at the very least, wouldn't have let it get as bad as it had. Actually, with her not even trying to warn Katara of the North after she loudly expressed her desire to go, it really seems like S1 of the cartoon wasn't as well planned out as S2 and S3 were, at least when keeping the first two episodes in mind. Removing this mini plot point also helps further emphasize the cultural differences between the North and the South. After all, even real Indigenous tribes aren't monoliths. And yeah, I agree, what's this about the war not getting focused on? If anything, I've seen the show get called too brutal. The genocide of the Air Nomads is literally shown in the very first episode, we see how it's affecting Aang and how the war in general is affecting everyone else, but there's still a feeling of hope. It's not as light-hearted as the original cartoon was, but it's not completely bleak, either.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Feb 27, 2024 13:27:39 GMT -5
I watched the Netflix remake and actually loved it overall! Finished the show today with my mom (who never watched the original show but loved the rather controversial life action movie lol). My favorite scene in terms of new additions the remake made was definitely Avatar Kyoshi showing up by temporarily taking over Aang's body and whooping some Firebender ass to protect her island and to show Aang the power of the Avatar in Episode 2. That was an epic slay <3 The original animated series will always have a special place in my heart but I wouldn't call the remake worse than it, to be honest. I also appreciate that it shows the utter horror and violence of the war while not making things feel too glum and hopeless at the same time. The fight scenes are very well choreographed as well.
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Post by houndsteeth on Feb 29, 2024 7:15:37 GMT -5
oh thank goodness I started watching it with my sister and I've finished it but she hasnt. (we are both huge ATLA fans and grew up on the show) Personally, I think the show has done very well. Overall I'm pretty happy with it, obvi there are some things that I don't like but overall i would say it's a really well done adaptation especially in comparison to the movie that shall not be named. What I liked: The costumes (despite what a lot of people online say, I think the costumes are wonderful and faithful versions of the cartoon.) I do agree in terms of Katara and Sokka's outer clothes, as my sister said they looked too clean. But Katara's dress that she wears underneath the outer coat I thought was STUNNING and looked much more 'homespun' and every day and beautiful.
The settings/ world. Everything looked so good. I adored the Air Temple!
Zukoooooo. I loved him. I have fav character bias but the actor did SO WELL.
Azula being introduced earlier, and Ozai pitting his children against each other is much more blatant and I really liked that aspect! What i didn't like To much chopping and changing trying to cram too many plotlines into one episode at times. The biggest issue for me is Hei Bai's episode. The spirit himself is only showed so briefly he seems so inconsequential especially because he gets overshadowed by Koh. The was a huge pitfall on the show writer's part because this episode was huge in terms of showing the audience how important the avatar is between the material and spiritual worlds. Aang presenting the acorn and talking about the forest's regrowth and calming Hei Bai to get him to return the villagers was very important in my mind and the live action takes that away and thus takes away Aang's spirituality a bit more which is sad.
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