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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Dec 17, 2023 13:04:42 GMT -5
When Mapleshades kits went to starclan, I wonder how birchface reacted. Maybe he was the one who sent the omen to ravenwing? Maybe he accepted them and became a thrushpelt figure to them? Same with appledusk and ravenwing, I wonder their reactions when they met the kits in starclan. βAre you our father?β patchkit said. Appledusk responded, βwho are you?β
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Post by ππΆβ¨Brambleheartβ¨πΆπ on Dec 17, 2023 14:00:53 GMT -5
One Shot Appledusk's thoughts whirled. Where was he? Where was Reedshine? Perchpaw? This territory looked so familiar, but... off. He looked around, trying to see anyone he knew. It then dawned upon him that he was no longer in RiverClan. I'm... I'm dead!
"Hello. You must be Appledusk," A voice of an apprentice sounded. Appledusk recognised her as Flowerpaw of ThunderClan. Appledusk's heart ached. Flowerpaw had died because of him. "It's okay, we are all allies here."
"But-"
"Nobody would have predicted what had happened to Birchface or me. It was a tragic accident." Appledusk nodded. He knew the river was flooded that night, but not even the most skilled RiverClan cat could control the water that night. Or the other, in which... My kits!
"I need to see my kits," Appledusk grunted. Flowerpaw flicked her small tail to beckon him. Appledusk followed the apprentice, surprised at how good she was at navigating. He then heard mewls and instinctually knew that they were his kits. And wrapping his tail around them was Birchface.
"Greetings, Appledusk," Birchface gave him a curt nod. Although StarClan cats were forgiving, that didn't stop things from being awkward. "I've been caring for your kits until you came here. I didn't think it would happen so soon! I- I hope that's alright."
Appledusk dipped his head to the ThunderClan cat. StarClan knew no borders. There was no such thing as half-Clan in Silverpelt, only in the living world. His kits had been accepted. "Thank you, Birchface. And I'm sorry." Birchface and Appledusk touched noses, and Birchface invited Appledusk to sun while they watched the kits play.
A black tom, Ravenwing, to be exact, padded towards the kits, guilt shining in his eyes. "This is my fault," he mewed almost silently.
"If it was your fault," Appledusk comforted the medicine cat, "you wouldn't be here."
One of the kits, a small calico tom, walked towards Appledusk after catching a minnow. "Are you our father?"
"Yes," Appledusk purred, eyes glazed with emotion. "And who might you be?"
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 18, 2023 6:37:26 GMT -5
Appledusk wouldn't say "who are you" - he'd met the kits before.
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Dec 18, 2023 15:43:25 GMT -5
Appledusk wouldn't say "who are you" - he'd met the kits before. I have a feeling he didnβt care about them enough to even remember them that well. He also just seems like he would be a bad father to them imo.
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Nettle
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Post by Nettle on Dec 18, 2023 16:21:46 GMT -5
Appledusk wouldn't say "who are you" - he'd met the kits before. I have a feeling he didnβt care about them enough to even remember them that well. He also just seems like he would be a bad father to them imo. Appledusk is a bad father. He abandons his kits. He should have taken responsibility but he didn't. It's stupid.
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Pansexual
Medicine cat
Nettle
woof woof
Pronouns: She/her, They/them.
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Post by Nettle on Dec 18, 2023 16:22:59 GMT -5
When Mapleshades kits went to starclan, I wonder how birchface reacted. Maybe he was the one who sent the omen to ravenwing? Maybe he accepted them and became a thrushpelt figure to them? Same with appledusk and ravenwing, I wonder their reactions when they met the kits in starclan. βAre you our father?β patchkit said. Appledusk responded, βwho are you?β I honestly think Birchface ((if he had been alive)) would have probably taken responsibility as the father for the sake of the kits. Imo he seems like a really good cat ((wasn't he deputy at the time? I forgot. I'll go check sometime.))
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Dec 18, 2023 16:56:53 GMT -5
When Mapleshades kits went to starclan, I wonder how birchface reacted. Maybe he was the one who sent the omen to ravenwing? Maybe he accepted them and became a thrushpelt figure to them? Same with appledusk and ravenwing, I wonder their reactions when they met the kits in starclan. βAre you our father?β patchkit said. Appledusk responded, βwho are you?β I honestly think Birchface ((if he had been alive)) would have probably taken responsibility as the father for the sake of the kits. Imo he seems like a really good cat ((wasn't he deputy at the time? I forgot. I'll go check sometime.)) I donβt think he was deputy at the time.
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Post by π΅πππππππππ on Dec 19, 2023 9:27:53 GMT -5
I have a feeling he didnβt care about them enough to even remember them that well. He also just seems like he would be a bad father to them imo. Appledusk is a bad father. He abandons his kits. He should have taken responsibility but he didn't. It's stupid. Itβs been a hot minute since I last read MV, but if Iβm remembering correctly, Appledusk actually was pretty fond of his kits w/Maple.
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Nettle
woof woof
Pronouns: She/her, They/them.
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Post by Nettle on Dec 19, 2023 17:04:30 GMT -5
Appledusk is a bad father. He abandons his kits. He should have taken responsibility but he didn't. It's stupid. Itβs been a hot minute since I last read MV, but if Iβm remembering correctly, Appledusk actually was pretty fond of his kits w/Maple. Yeah, so why did he have more kits with another lol
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 20, 2023 9:06:16 GMT -5
I have a feeling he didnβt care about them enough to even remember them that well. He also just seems like he would be a bad father to them imo. Appledusk is a bad father. He abandons his kits. He should have taken responsibility but he didn't. It's stupid. Abandon his kits literally when? They were in a completely different Clan, Mapleshade was the one raising them. He wouldn't have been able to take responsibility, the birth of the kits was quite literally illegal. Are we reading the same books?
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 20, 2023 9:06:37 GMT -5
Itβs been a hot minute since I last read MV, but if Iβm remembering correctly, Appledusk actually was pretty fond of his kits w/Maple. Yeah, so why did he have more kits with another lol Because he moved on?
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 20, 2023 9:11:05 GMT -5
When Mapleshades kits went to starclan, I wonder how birchface reacted. Maybe he was the one who sent the omen to ravenwing? Maybe he accepted them and became a thrushpelt figure to them? Same with appledusk and ravenwing, I wonder their reactions when they met the kits in starclan. βAre you our father?β patchkit said. Appledusk responded, βwho are you?β I honestly think Birchface ((if he had been alive)) would have probably taken responsibility as the father for the sake of the kits. Imo he seems like a really good cat ((wasn't he deputy at the time? I forgot. I'll go check sometime.)) We've gotten absolutely 0 content of Birchface as a character. To completely disregard Appledusk's grief as a father and claim he was a terrible dad when he wasn't even allowed to raise his kits and then say that a character who had 0 mentions of personality and was literally dead the whole book and didn't appear once would be a better father and "would've taken responsibility" is very confusing, especially considering majority of ThunderClan was against Mapleshade and her kits, none of them stepped up and if his whole family was against it, he probably would've been too. He also was never made deputy. It sounds to me like you're either thinking of a completely different book, or your perception of it was completely different to what the book actually told. I think you need to re-read it.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 20, 2023 9:13:19 GMT -5
Appledusk wouldn't say "who are you" - he'd met the kits before. I have a feeling he didnβt care about them enough to even remember them that well. He also just seems like he would be a bad father to them imo. I disagree. When Mapleshade took them to the river, he was worried about their safety. Appledusk was a fairly major character in this book but keep in mind it is a novella and was told from Mapleshade's perspective, we have absolutely 0 knowledge of what was going on on Appledusk's side of this story, we wouldn't have seen his thoughts and opinions about his kits at all.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 20, 2023 22:01:44 GMT -5
Yeah, so why did he have more kits with another lol Because he moved on? also, having another set of kids does not at all imply that you donβt care about the kids you already have/had. rainbow babies are a major thing amongst parents who have had miscarriages for that exact reason.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Dec 24, 2023 4:11:59 GMT -5
also, having another set of kids does not at all imply that you donβt care about the kids you already have/had. rainbow babies are a major thing amongst parents who have had miscarriages for that exact reason. THANK YOUUUU!! While that CAN be the case, not enough was shown of Appledusk's character to even suggest that applies here, because it was a novella and from Mapleshade's perspective.
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