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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Dec 14, 2023 16:44:42 GMT -5
Do you think sunstar would have actually chosen thistleclaw if bluefur didn’t give up her kits. Sunstar said that he didn’t think thistleclaw would have been a great deputy if I’m not mistaken, so maybe he would have chosen someone else like lionheart, Stormtail, etc.
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Dec 14, 2023 16:52:10 GMT -5
My memories are a bit fuzzy on this book but didn't Goosefeather tell Bluestar that she had to give away her kits? I know Goosefeather might not be the most trustworthy but the prophecies he receives are real enough. Well, he’s made some miscalculations like with the mole, it’s entirely possible he could’ve overreacted to something.
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Post by Sunleap on Dec 14, 2023 16:53:16 GMT -5
My memories are a bit fuzzy on this book but didn't Goosefeather tell Bluestar that she had to give away her kits? I know Goosefeather might not be the most trustworthy but the prophecies he receives are real enough. Well, he’s made some miscalculations like with the mole, it’s entirely possible he could’ve overreacted to something. That is true. Makes me wonder if Bluestar could've just talked to Sunstar about Thistleclaw.
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Post by lazzylake on Dec 14, 2023 16:56:33 GMT -5
Okay guys you have activated my need to ramble about my AU because if Thistleclaw would've been deputy I would believe he would banish Bluefur and her kits and she would bring them to RiverClan because of Oakheart. This would directly parallel Mapleshade's story (Crookedstar would still be leader too)
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Post by Purdyisbestboi on Dec 14, 2023 17:04:00 GMT -5
Okay guys you have activated my need to ramble about my AU because if Thistleclaw would've been deputy I would believe he would banish Bluefur and her kits and she would bring them to RiverClan because of Oakheart. This would directly parallel Mapleshade's story (Crookedstar would still be leader too) Hopefully bluefur doesn’t end up killing rosetail, featherwhisker, and oak heart.
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Post by lazzylake on Dec 14, 2023 17:21:19 GMT -5
Oh no, Thistleclaw is the one that does all that through Mapleshade. It's different cats though, but Oakheart is on the list. Mapleshade becomes so angry Crookedstar let an exiled queen into his clan that she ends up haunting the much more evil cat instead.
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Post by Wolfyy- on Dec 14, 2023 18:30:39 GMT -5
Tbh I don't see any reason to NOT make her deputy even when she has her kits. If she's the best cat for the job, then give it to her! So no, I don't think Sunstar would've made him deputy.
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Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Dec 14, 2023 19:20:26 GMT -5
I think Sunstar implied that there were two choices, and was disappointed that Bluefur was having kits. He had reservations about Thistleclaw, but wasn't nearly as worried about his violent nature as Bluestar was. He probably would have chosen Thistleclaw had she not given up her kits, which.... ehhhh
"Sorry, but I can't choose you because you're having kits, so I guess I'll go with the guy that might start up unnecessary fights."
Only now I realize that Sunstar was kinda sexist....
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Post by Fireleap on Dec 14, 2023 19:59:56 GMT -5
I have a fuzzy memory of Sunstar saying he didn't really want Thistleclaw as deputy, and Adderfang was made temporary deputy when Tawnyspots got sick. I think Thistleclaw was in consideration, but I don't think it would've actually gone to him.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 14, 2023 20:38:24 GMT -5
I think he would. Sunstar wasn't too worried that Thistleclaw would've led the clan into many pointless battles.
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 14, 2023 22:58:36 GMT -5
Sunstar's phrasing to me made it seem like Bluefur's actions were rash and that Thistleclaw was not going to necessarily be chosen.
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Post by Hollyfall on Dec 15, 2023 0:49:16 GMT -5
I went to go read the scenes for context. Sunstar more or less implies that Thistleclaw is his second choice for deputy if he can't have Bluefur, and doesn't seem terribly bothered over a fight between Oakheart and Thistleclaw earlier. But then later on, says that Thistleclaw is definitely a popular choice for deputyship, but he doesn't think it's the right one and shares Bluefur's concerns over Thistleclaw's bloodthirsty nature. Seems he changed his mind and realized what Thistleclaw was really like. When she's pregnant and Tawnyspots is ill: After Bluefur "loses" her kits: So while perhaps at one point he was runner-up behind Bluefur, Sunstar decided even before getting Bluefur's confirmation that it wasn't going to be him.
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