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Post by auser on Oct 29, 2023 16:29:15 GMT -5
Since we had the new team, we keep getting better warriors cats arcs :
- Dawn of the Clans is awesome and one of the best warriors cats arc (I know that A Starless Clan isn’t finished yet, but I consider the best warriors cats arc ever)
- A Vision of Shadows had a good plot and we finally got SkyClan’s long awaited return
- The Broken Code has a fascinating relationship with supernatural stuff, good protagonists and Ashfur truly felt terrifying as a villain
- A Starless Clan has hands down the best story arc execution ever, the villains are amazing and it involving two plots at the same time which I think will be intertwined in an amazing ending, I haven’t been this entertained while reading Warriors Cats since The Prophecy Begins!
Sorry for Vicky but it seems that the team change was necessary : after The Prophecy Begins ending, we got the The New Prophecy, Power of Three and Omen of the Stars which had issues with their plot executions (this is just my opinion though, I don’t mean to insult Victoria Holmes, I know that she was passionate about her books that she wrote many amazing warriors cats books which I loved and the Special Editions she wrote were much better that the ones we got in the recent years!)
The only flaw I find is the quality drop in the Super Editions : Leopardstar’s Honor, Onestar’s Confession…
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Post by کیوان on Oct 29, 2023 16:37:58 GMT -5
While I personally am not a fan of the latter half of AVoS, they popped off with DoTC, and TBC was a magic-element story done well. I also think ASC has some crazy potential. We may be nostalgic for the old stories, and I know the WoF stans like to take shots at WC for lacking quality (that's a conversation for another day), but in regards to the main series, we are going hard.
(I do also agree that old SE's could beat the newer ones any day of the week, but that's something the new team can get the hang of eventually with enough practice.)
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Post by auser on Oct 29, 2023 16:42:53 GMT -5
While I personally am not a fan of the latter half of AVoS, they popped off with DoTC, and TBC was a magic-element story done well. I also think ASC has some crazy potential. We may be nostalgic for the old stories, and I know the WoF stans like to take shots at WC for lacking quality (that's a conversation for another day), but in regards to the main series, we are going hard. (I do also agree that old SE's could beat the newer ones any day of the week, but that's something the new team can get the hang of eventually with enough practice.) WoF might complain about Warriors cats quality but I’ve started reading WoF books and the dialogue and description quality isn’t really my cup of tea (though, it’s intended to be read by kids, there’s no comparison possible with warriors cats since they are completely different book series but I find the warriors cats descriptions and dialogues more satisfying), I shouldn’t talk about WoF though, since it’s a warriors cats forums here. FYI, I don’t mean to start a flaming war here.
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Post by کیوان on Oct 29, 2023 16:46:32 GMT -5
auser I also have similar qualms with WoF and then some. But you're right, that's a conversation for a different place.
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Post by Snowfire on Oct 29, 2023 17:15:58 GMT -5
Story-wise, (except for the latter half of AVOS), Yes! The stories are great! However, I have a few issues with TBC which I will explain below. Character-wise, it depends, the POVs and characters in DOTC make the arc stand out, meanwhile, it depends on the arcs after; the characters were great in the first half in AVOS, but in the latter half, it feels like the team has no idea what to do with them so they pick random plots out of a hat.; for TBC, characters are slightly better but I feel the older characters were focused on more than the newer ones, which makes it harder for them to have or develop relationships, a few examples being Bristle with her fam and her sudden romantic feelings for Root, and more which sucked because I was hoping to get attached to the newer characters, especially Bristle, but it's hard when the older characters were the focus. Because of that, Bristle's death wasn't very impactful to me.; for ASC, I think there is a good balance between newer characters and older characters with better and established relationships and development compared to the two arcs before it so far, which is leading to be a potential favorite arc if they keep going at this rate. I would have to agree with auser on the SEs recently, the quality has dropped so badly, I'm starting to think the main purpose of them is to make more money, which sucks because I loved some of the SEs, some even better than the main arc series, but now it feels like they're not even trying with them. Hearing what the team said about looking forward to writing Ivypool's Heart and SE #18, I have a small glimpse of hope they might finally improve. Even though it's early, here's to a good year for Warrior Cats 2024.
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Post by Quill on Oct 29, 2023 23:01:41 GMT -5
I think that after the mess they made with the plot in PoT and OotS, they made sure in future arcs to plan the arc stories beforehand instead of winging it. This has significantly improved both the plot and main character arcs of the main series since OotS. That being said, I think that other things have gone downhill. Their world building in terms of the supernatural has completely gone off the rails, and side characters are rarely given personalities.
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Post by oatwhisker on Oct 30, 2023 9:17:37 GMT -5
the series has definitely evolved into something significantly better, and even if you don't like the characters or love the classics for nostalgia, you cant deny the fact that the new books have very interesting plotlines.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Oct 30, 2023 11:21:06 GMT -5
Just you.
Jk, clearly lots of people agree, but I personally don’t. The quality has remained the same (i.e. mediocre); the one or two areas that each arc actually executes well just gets swapped around. But I am also in the minority that thinks DOTC and TBC were bland.
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Post by 「Wιитεяичgнт」 on Oct 30, 2023 13:12:12 GMT -5
Hey now! I really enjoyed LH and OC! I know the cats in those weren't fan favorites by any means, but they weren't redemption books for the either. It was a chance to understand through their povs why they did what they did and how they truly felt about said actions! But to each their own lol c:
I agree that the arcs have been getting a lot better! DotC still the best!
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Post by iceheart on Oct 30, 2023 13:59:23 GMT -5
Sorry, but no. The arcs just genuinely seem to be getting worse, although AVOS was still worst than the rest of them. It relies on a small story to hold all six books, and it simply doesn't work, leading 4 out of 6 books in each arc to be agonizingly dragged out. The characters aren't remarkable or memorable, and the annoying thing about this team is that they rely on TNP characters to keep it going. Plus, their bias towards certain characters is absolutely unbelievable. It just gets worse, both in plot quality and writing quality, the amount of retcons to make their own plot lines work, and I hope it ends relatively soon. It also relies on stealing old ideas from previous arcs and reworking them - ex, SkyClan and ShadowClan falling apart, Ashfur, forbidden love... it honestly pales in comparison to the older arcs.
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