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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 21, 2023 15:13:43 GMT -5
I just randomly remembered him the other day. I think he's an interesting character since he's a warrior-turned-medicine cat, which I think is a cool concept, and he seems like he's not an inherently bad cat at his core with a decent sense of humour. He sort of reminds me of Jayfeather.
There is of course, him killing Moonflower, and whether or not it was justified. Either way though, what are your opinions on him?
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on Oct 21, 2023 15:28:04 GMT -5
I think that he's an interesting character for sure but him killing Moonflower and then taunting Bluepaw at a Gathering afterwards still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Although I don't think Hawkheart was taunting her about the death of Moonflower but rather her Clan status/rank (calling her a kit-warrior iirc).
And yes, I know that ThunderClan was in the wrong for attacking WindClan on Goosefeather's word and Moonflower was wrong for destroying their herb supplies during leaf-bare (she did so on orders though but could've refused to do that imo). But still, killing her was just too far, in my opinion. Although I can for sure understand Hawkheart's anger at her destroying his herbs since that is also bad. Not sure if it was a common battle tactic among the Clans to do so while fighting each other to weaken their enemy, but even if so, it's not very honorable and thus also wasn't an honorable thing on Moonflower's part to do so.
Then again, it was a battle and nothing is fair in love and war. So it's very clear that they both thought they were in the right to do what they did (her destroying the herb supply and him then killing her for it). It would be cool to see how they would interact if both of them are in StarClan.
So far, only Moonflower is fully confirmed to be there since she gave Bluestar a life during her ceremony. Apparently, Hawkheart was once stated to likely be in the Dark Forest by Vicky during a chat but then later on she said he was probably in StarClan on a Facebook post. Not sure where I'd put him, since the StarClan system is broken anyway if cats like Skystar and Blackstar can go to StarClan despite killing innocent cats. Although Moonflower was not really all that innocent considering her last act before death was destroying valuable herbs of another Clan in leaf-bare. Even though again, it was during a battle.
I'm now realizing that I've written more about the situation he's most known for and which is discussed about the most in the fandom when it comes to Hawkheart rather than him as a character like was asked for as the topic, so whoops. But yeah, that is simply what I remember most about him too. I do remember that I quite liked him in TR and YS as well though. And yes, he does remind me of Jayfeather a bit now that the comparison got made! Since he's also sarcastic and stern most of the time but does have a nicer side to a select few cats, like Jayfeather does.
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Ambersky
"You'll never make me ashamed or who I am or what I look like." -Crookedjaw to Rainflower
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Post by Ambersky on Oct 21, 2023 15:36:24 GMT -5
I like him; heโs a pretty layered character. In Bluestarโs prophecy, he demonstrated no remorse after killing Moonflower, even when Bluepaw openly grieved for her death. In Yellowfangโs Secret, he was sympathetic and understanding with Yellowfang switching to become a medicine cat like he did. In Tallstarโs Revenge, he often gave words of wisdom to Talltail and reassured Hopkit he could be a warrior despite his limp. He was also a good mentor to Barkface.
Ultimately, I think heโs realistic and interesting. Heโs done both good and bad things. I only wish we got a novella on him and learned why he became a medicine cat. I assume his past life as a warrior was why he was so brutal with Moonflower.
Also, it's ironic that he's a medicine cat who willingly killed another cat, even though his job is to save lives. He's probably the only morally ambiguous medicine cat in the series, which is pretty neat, in my opinion.
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Post by Slightdapple on Oct 21, 2023 15:42:22 GMT -5
Iโm neutral on him. I donโt like how he acted in Bluestarโs Prophecy and in every other appearance he has, heโs okay.
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Post by yuki on Oct 21, 2023 20:22:49 GMT -5
i don't care all that much about him. but he does have a interesting concept. he just really left a bitter taste in Bluestars prophecy.
yes stealing herbs does give a reason to attack in the moment, but he was in no position to kill moonflower over it lmo
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 21, 2023 21:02:46 GMT -5
He's an interesting character for sure.
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Post by แฆฯ๊ ธแฅด๊ซแ ป๊ช๊ชแง on Oct 22, 2023 6:27:31 GMT -5
Heโs interesting, but Iโm overall neutral. Itโs been awhile since Iโve read BP so I canโt say much about him killing Moonflower.
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