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Post by Clawheart on Sept 26, 2023 1:42:06 GMT -5
Who would win in a fight Ivypool or Lionblaze they are thunderclan’s strongest fighters and both trained in the dark forest and have taken on hard fights and won
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Post by Clawheart on Sept 26, 2023 1:47:47 GMT -5
I would say Lionblaze because even though he is reckless after losing his power he trained in the dark forest almost as long as Ivypool(i do not really know though sorry if I am wrong) and has had powers that he may have muscle memory. It would not be a easy fight though and he could easily loss he is also a much more of a wild card than Ivypool and IP uses her wits in battle more then him. Also when training in the dark forest both IP and LB had hawkfrost training them but LB also had tigerstar to fight and he didn’t have his powers in the dark forest.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 26, 2023 2:58:23 GMT -5
Who is Livypool (referring to the poll title) lol?
Anyways, I voted for Ivypool, it would certainly be a hard fight and Lionblaze is still strong despite losing his powers and has gotten a bit over his recklessness while he had it and shortly after he lost it (as shown in BrS and CT where he got hurt). But I still think he can be quite impulsive at times (as shown in TBC when he is already older) and might let his guard down. As already said, it would be a hard fight since neither Lionblaze nor Ivypool would just give up though (then again, I doubt they would ever fight like that).
Ivypool managed to fight off Thistleclaw and Snowtuft (she did need the help of Hollyleaf with Hawkfrost though) and killed Antpelt (Lionblaze has also killed three cats but two of those were accidents). Yeah, I really don't think this fight between them would be easy or short for either of them.
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Sept 26, 2023 3:01:06 GMT -5
Lionblaze is a strong guy
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Post by User33 on Sept 26, 2023 11:00:29 GMT -5
I'd give the win to Ivypool only due to her possibly outsmarting Lionblaze (Lionblaze always struck me as more of a bruiser than a smart fighter) It would be a very close fight. Now maybe he has muscle memory from his power which then has Lionblaze winning.
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 26, 2023 14:38:10 GMT -5
Without his power, Lionblaze is not great. Ivypool held high accolades with no power though, so I give her the edge
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Post by yuki on Sept 26, 2023 15:09:15 GMT -5
it was confirmed that lionblazes powers were revoked after the prophecy was fulfilled. Once they were revoked we got small scenes with lionblaze complaining about getting injured such as tripping over roots.
Ivypool would get the advantage, lionblaze would probably get frustrated causing his energy to drain faster.
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Post by kitters on Sept 26, 2023 16:46:13 GMT -5
Idk breezepelt was able to overpower both of them iirc so it probably depends on who is more mad/passionate. Cuz breeze beat them with the shear power of daddy issues.
Can anyone give a list of cats ivypool has lost to? For Lionblaze I think it's just breezepelt.
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Post by Clawheart on Sept 26, 2023 16:53:27 GMT -5
Livypool(meant to be Ivypool) is a cat spawned out of nowhere because of my bad spelling
I need to learn to reread things I write so I don’t make any more mistakes lol
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 26, 2023 17:59:21 GMT -5
Idk breezepelt was able to overpower both of them iirc so it probably depends on who is more mad/passionate. Cuz breeze beat them with the shear power of daddy issues. Can anyone give a list of cats ivypool has lost to? For Lionblaze I think it's just breezepelt. When did Breezepelt overpower Ivypool OR Lionblaze? As for Lionblaze, he got beat up so bad by O'hara the kittypet in Bramblestar's Storm that he ends up falling and being unable to walk once he limps back to camp. Tigerheartstar also arguably defeated him when he smacked him down for his aggressive rhetoric against Shadowsight, though I guess you can maybe argue suckerpunch. One could also argue he would have lost to Shredtail without his powers, given the scene has Midnight giving him a pep talk about destiny which seems like it's implying he hadn't activated his powers in that scene. He also seemed on the backfoot against Ashfur in Eclipse and Tigerstar until his powers kicked in. Ivypool was losing to a beat-up Hawkfrost but I don't think she's lost any other battles.
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Post by kitters on Sept 26, 2023 18:21:04 GMT -5
Idk breezepelt was able to overpower both of them iirc so it probably depends on who is more mad/passionate. Cuz breeze beat them with the shear power of daddy issues. Can anyone give a list of cats ivypool has lost to? For Lionblaze I think it's just breezepelt. When did Breezepelt overpower Ivypool OR Lionblaze? As for Lionblaze, he got beat up so bad by O'hara the kittypet in Bramblestar's Storm that he ends up falling and being unable to walk once he limps back to camp. Tigerheartstar also arguably defeated him when he smacked him down for his aggressive rhetoric against Shadowsight, though I guess you can maybe argue suckerpunch. One could also argue he would have lost to Shredtail without his powers, given the scene has Midnight giving him a pep talk about destiny which seems like it's implying he hadn't activated his powers in that scene. He also seemed on the backfoot against Ashfur in Eclipse and Tigerstar until his powers kicked in. Ivypool was losing to a beat-up Hawkfrost but I don't think she's lost any other battles. It's been years since I read the last hope but I remember a scene where breezepelt almost kills him and ivypool has to beg for his life. I think he beat ivy in that same Scene? But I might be remembering wrong.
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Post by Clawheart on Sept 26, 2023 18:42:03 GMT -5
I read the last hope rather recently(like a month ago) and I do not remember Lionblaze or Ivypool getting beat up by Brezzepelt also Lionblaze had his powers to never be beat in battle and him having to beg breezepelt does not seem likely but i may be wrong
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Post by ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ on Sept 26, 2023 18:43:39 GMT -5
When did Breezepelt overpower Ivypool OR Lionblaze? As for Lionblaze, he got beat up so bad by O'hara the kittypet in Bramblestar's Storm that he ends up falling and being unable to walk once he limps back to camp. Tigerheartstar also arguably defeated him when he smacked him down for his aggressive rhetoric against Shadowsight, though I guess you can maybe argue suckerpunch. One could also argue he would have lost to Shredtail without his powers, given the scene has Midnight giving him a pep talk about destiny which seems like it's implying he hadn't activated his powers in that scene. He also seemed on the backfoot against Ashfur in Eclipse and Tigerstar until his powers kicked in. Ivypool was losing to a beat-up Hawkfrost but I don't think she's lost any other battles. It's been years since I read the last hope but I remember a scene where breezepelt almost kills him and ivypool has to beg for his life. I think he beat ivy in that same Scene? But I might be remembering wrong. I think you may be thinking of the scene where Breezepelt attempts to kill Jayfeather and Poppyfrost at the moonpool in TFA
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 26, 2023 20:16:28 GMT -5
When did Breezepelt overpower Ivypool OR Lionblaze? As for Lionblaze, he got beat up so bad by O'hara the kittypet in Bramblestar's Storm that he ends up falling and being unable to walk once he limps back to camp. Tigerheartstar also arguably defeated him when he smacked him down for his aggressive rhetoric against Shadowsight, though I guess you can maybe argue suckerpunch. One could also argue he would have lost to Shredtail without his powers, given the scene has Midnight giving him a pep talk about destiny which seems like it's implying he hadn't activated his powers in that scene. He also seemed on the backfoot against Ashfur in Eclipse and Tigerstar until his powers kicked in. Ivypool was losing to a beat-up Hawkfrost but I don't think she's lost any other battles. It's been years since I read the last hope but I remember a scene where breezepelt almost kills him and ivypool has to beg for his life. I think he beat ivy in that same Scene? But I might be remembering wrong. Breezepelt suckerpunches Lionblaze to try to kill him and Ivypool and Dovewing tell him to stop, but he doesn't lay a paw on Ivypool in that scene. Moreover, it's hard to say Breezepelt won given we know Lionblaze's powers were active and so Breezepelt's throatbite naturally does nothing. Moreover, Dovewing who had this happen right in front of her still thinks after the fact that Lionblaze is so strong as to be unbeatable in battle, indicating that at least from her perspective, she didn't think he was in danger of losing. I can see the argument for it being Breezepelt winning, but the general narrative doesn't seem to support that in this case
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Post by droppaw 🍂 on Sept 27, 2023 4:28:00 GMT -5
When did Breezepelt overpower Ivypool OR Lionblaze? As for Lionblaze, he got beat up so bad by O'hara the kittypet in Bramblestar's Storm that he ends up falling and being unable to walk once he limps back to camp. Tigerheartstar also arguably defeated him when he smacked him down for his aggressive rhetoric against Shadowsight, though I guess you can maybe argue suckerpunch. One could also argue he would have lost to Shredtail without his powers, given the scene has Midnight giving him a pep talk about destiny which seems like it's implying he hadn't activated his powers in that scene. He also seemed on the backfoot against Ashfur in Eclipse and Tigerstar until his powers kicked in. Ivypool was losing to a beat-up Hawkfrost but I don't think she's lost any other battles. It's been years since I read the last hope but I remember a scene where breezepelt almost kills him and ivypool has to beg for his life. I think he beat ivy in that same Scene? But I might be remembering wrong. Do you mean the scene Where Breezepelt boasts about Hollyleafs death and Says Lion and Jay will be next? Cause I’m pretty sure He just got Lion by surprise and, if he had tried, Lion would’ve Won. The others Also seemed less like begging him not To kill Lion and more Just shocked at Breezepelt being Actually evil/hating Them so much
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Post by kitters on Sept 27, 2023 19:09:58 GMT -5
The scene shows Breezepelt jump on Lionblaze, ivypool shrieks no don't do it. Rrzepelt smacks Lions head on the ground and Lion tries to shake him off but Vreeze holds on tighter. He says that Hplyleaf is dead and Lion is next. Lion gasps that they're kin. Then Crowfeather hauls him off (I had to grab the book bc I was curious. That is the gist tho)
Imo that's a victory for breeze. But yeah who knows what would have happened if crow didn't intervene. I guess Lion is invincible and wouldn't die but tbh he seemed like he was struggling super hard. I deffo imagined ivy getting beat up right then tho.
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Post by pepperflake on Sept 27, 2023 21:12:46 GMT -5
Ivy would demolish lionblaze
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Post by pepperflake on Sept 27, 2023 21:14:44 GMT -5
Ivy would demolish lionblaze Lionblaze got use to fighting with powers so I am sure that when he didn’t have them, he had to adjust to fighting while protecting himself more. Ivypool was more use to studying her enemy and cleverness rather than brute strength to win.
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