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Post by Snowfire on Sept 13, 2023 18:16:20 GMT -5
If the Medicine Cat rule against having a mate or kits was removed, who do you think is more likely in the modern Clans to take a chance of having a mate and kits?
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Sept 13, 2023 18:17:47 GMT -5
AlderPuddle are gonna get together
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Post by ¯\_(ツ)_/¯IvyStar¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on Sept 13, 2023 19:29:42 GMT -5
The Erin's had a reason not to allow medicine cats to have mates and kits, considering what happened to Moth Flight. A medicine cats work is so important they wouldn't have time to have a mate and kits.
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Post by ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ on Sept 13, 2023 19:44:30 GMT -5
The Erin's had a reason not to allow medicine cats to have mates and kits, considering what happened to Moth Flight. A medicine cats work is so important they wouldn't have time to have a mate and kits. Yeah, but doctors in real life aren’t forbidden to have children. Why should medicine cats? I think the reason is pretty invalid, if a medicine cat can’t handle caring for the clan and not favoring their kin then that’s the medicine cats problem and perhaps their not worthy of their job if they act like that. The rule just doesn’t make since imo. Anyways, AlderPuddle would totally get together. I’m voting for Alderheart though, cause I feel like he could easily fall in love with another character other then Velvet.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 13, 2023 20:11:20 GMT -5
i am here to say i hate moth flight and her stupidity causing the dumb medicine cat codes of not having a mate or kits.
medicine cats should be allowed to have a mate and kits. period. leaders and deputies can have mates and kits and they r the very ones in charge of all the cats in their clan. so wtf is the difference? clearly leaders have biases, so having a bias toward kin shouldnt be the biggest reason for medicine cats to not have a mate/kits. it's just stupid.
just bc moth flight was awful at balancing everything, doesnt mean every single medicine cat after her would be awful at it too. it's ridiculous that this is all moth flight's fault. majority of doctors in real life don't have this issue (would be unfair of me to say "all").
none of the current medicine cats feel like they would want a mate or kits. i mean alderheart had those struggles, but it seems like he is over it now, so i guess my vote is for puddleshine. the poor guy deserves something i guess lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 21:26:12 GMT -5
Alderheart for sure. i am here to say i hate moth flight and her stupidity causing the dumb medicine cat codes of not having a mate or kits.
medicine cats should be allowed to have a mate and kits. period. leaders and deputies can have mates and kits and they r the very ones in charge of all the cats in their clan. so wtf is the difference? clearly leaders have biases, so having a bias toward kin shouldnt be the biggest reason for medicine cats to not have a mate/kits. it's just stupid.
just bc moth flight was awful at balancing everything, doesnt mean every single medicine cat after her would be awful at it too. it's ridiculous that this is all moth flight's fault. majority of doctors in real life don't have this issue (would be unfair of me to say "all").
none of the current medicine cats feel like they would want a mate or kits. i mean alderheart had those struggles, but it seems like he is over it now, so i guess my vote is for puddleshine. the poor guy deserves something i guess lol. (Putting this under a spoiler tag so I wouldn't make the post too long) I am here to say that I couldn't have said it better myself. Moth Flight banning all medicine cats from having kits just because she couldn't handle it is like a teacher punishing the whole class because one student was out of line. So ridiculous.
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Post by {Azure} on Sept 13, 2023 22:21:12 GMT -5
have a good look at my name and take a guess
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Sept 13, 2023 22:26:29 GMT -5
I think it's stupid, yes. But it does make interesting drama lol
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Post by {Azure} on Sept 14, 2023 6:22:58 GMT -5
i read an amazing fanfic some time ago in which alder and puddle fall in love and become mates secretly, until alderheart goes to the moonpool and asks tallstar (and jake) what they made of it and they told him to go for it and they requested a spefic change to the med cat code which got aproved, saying that two med cats can be mates, even from different clans if theyre the same gender. they're med cats so they wouldn't see each other in battle (bc med cats don't fight), and being the same gender would mean that they can't have kits so don't have to worry abt what clan to raise them in.
in the gathering where they request the change, jayfeather admits to being mates with kestrelflight, and mothing with leafpool when she was alive.
(in the epilouge it notes that jayfeather is now less grumpy, being able to go to windclan to see kestrelflight during free time)
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Post by ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ on Sept 14, 2023 6:31:19 GMT -5
i read an amazing fanfic some time ago in which alder and puddle fall in love and become mates secretly, until alderheart goes to the moonpool and asks tallstar (and jake) what they made of it and they told him to go for it and they requested a spefic change to the med cat code which got aproved, saying that two med cats can be mates, even from different clans if theyre the same gender. they're med cats so they wouldn't see each other in battle (bc med cats don't fight), and being the same gender would mean that they can't have kits so don't have to worry abt what clan to raise them in. in the gathering where they request the change, jayfeather admits to being mates with kestrelflight, and mothing with leafpool when she was alive. (in the epilouge it notes that jayfeather is now less grumpy, being able to go to windclan to see kestrelflight during free time) Please tell me u have the link
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Post by {Azure} on Sept 14, 2023 6:39:14 GMT -5
bga's diffrence btwn moth flight an yellowfang
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Post by {Azure} on Sept 14, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5
i read an amazing fanfic some time ago in which alder and puddle fall in love and become mates secretly, until alderheart goes to the moonpool and asks tallstar (and jake) what they made of it and they told him to go for it and they requested a spefic change to the med cat code which got aproved, saying that two med cats can be mates, even from different clans if theyre the same gender. they're med cats so they wouldn't see each other in battle (bc med cats don't fight), and being the same gender would mean that they can't have kits so don't have to worry abt what clan to raise them in. in the gathering where they request the change, jayfeather admits to being mates with kestrelflight, and mothing with leafpool when she was alive. (in the epilouge it notes that jayfeather is now less grumpy, being able to go to windclan to see kestrelflight during free time) Please tell me u have the link not on hand but i'll ask my fanfic supplier ( NeedleBerry)
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 16, 2023 5:22:06 GMT -5
Alderheart. Probably with Velvet even though I would hope with someone else.
Shadowsight next (since I ship him with Sunbeam even though it will sadly never happen in canon).
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 16, 2023 5:27:31 GMT -5
The Erin's had a reason not to allow medicine cats to have mates and kits, considering what happened to Moth Flight. A medicine cats work is so important they wouldn't have time to have a mate and kits. Just because one medicine cat was not able to take care of her kits after the death of her mate even though other cats offered her help multiple times doesn't mean every other medicine cat after Moth Flight deserved to have their chance at romance and kits taken away from them. I'm honestly still mad that Moth Flight went after Acorn Fur for wanting to be with Red Claw and took away her chance at being happy with him. Really hope that her rule will cease to exist after ASC.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 16, 2023 5:29:48 GMT -5
bga's diffrence btwn moth flight an yellowfang Technically, Moth Flight was not even the first medicine cat. Cloud Spots, Dappled Pelt or even Pebble Heart were there before her even if they did not have the proper title yet.
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Sept 16, 2023 12:18:42 GMT -5
Jayfeather's lover is dead and he's never really shown interest in anyone else. If she were alive, he would, but otherwise...
Alderheart's crush is a kittypet. Even if he could, they're kind of miles apart. If it was workable, he would.
Puddleshine... maybe? He definitely got pushed into the position rather than being one born for it. And from there he's just kind of been working it. I could see him having a mild interest in things outside of his role.
We were in Shadowsight's POV for six books in a row and he was refreshingly uninterested in romance. Doubt it.
Mothwing doesn't seem the type either.
Kestrelflight... I dunno. I've always found it INTERESTING that he seemed completely unsurprised to be having a dream about Jaypaw. Granted, Jayfeather is in love with a dead cat so even if Kestrel did have a thing for him, it wouldn't go anywhere.
I don't know enough about Frecklewish or Fidgetflake to comment.
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Post by {Azure} on Sept 17, 2023 19:42:55 GMT -5
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Post by 🐦silvermoon2🐦 on Sept 23, 2023 9:37:31 GMT -5
I would say Alderheart, since I think him and Velvet were really cute together.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 9:58:30 GMT -5
Alderheart and maybe Shadowsight
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Post by {Azure} on Sept 23, 2023 11:26:05 GMT -5
yo ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ did ya finish it?
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 24, 2023 0:47:38 GMT -5
The Erin's had a reason not to allow medicine cats to have mates and kits, considering what happened to Moth Flight. A medicine cats work is so important they wouldn't have time to have a mate and kits. yes we know, but the whole thread is based off of if they were allowed to have kits
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 24, 2023 0:53:44 GMT -5
imedicine cats should be allowed to have a mate and kits. period. leaders and deputies can have mates and kits and they r the very ones in charge of all the cats in their clan. so wtf is the difference? clearly leaders have biases, so having a bias toward kin shouldnt be the biggest reason for medicine cats to not have a mate/kits. it's just stupid. i never understood when people made the point that medicine cats would have a bias to heal their mate and kits because they're family. but cats have family outside of mates and kits?? they could have siblings, parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. and even if they don't have that, they still have former mentors and friends too. there's always going to be people they like and people they dislike. yet there's never been any mention of them having biases on those cats???
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Post by justrusset on Sept 24, 2023 15:29:05 GMT -5
although some medicine cats may not be happy with it, it does have a sense to forbid medicine cats from having mates and kits. One of the reasons is that medicine cats are supposed to be family to the whole clan and having kits and mates would distract them. But there is the strange thing, if having kits and mates would distract medicine cats, why it wouldn't distract leaders and deputies? And that rule for medicine cats being forbidden of having kits and mates would only make a little bit of sense if it was only for female medicine cats, because they would need to feed them and actually take care of them, while this wouldn't be a problem for male medicine cats. Back with the discussion with leaders and deputies being allowed to take on mates and kits; this would also distract them, as i said before only female ones. That is very odd and suspicious, no? That happens because while toms can go on with their normal life and duties, a she-cat needs to stay in the nursery and feed their kits, not able to hunt or fight and would probably be too tired after giving birth to do anything else other than lay down with her kits. With that said, i still don't think medicine cats should be forbidden of having kits at all. Of course, having kits would overhelm them so much but, being a medicine cat is already too overhelming, so if they can't deal with that, maybe they shouldn't me medicine cats at all.
You only are able to stay in major roles if you are able to deal and work under pressure. Is not easy. If you can't accept, learn to deal with it.
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