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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Jul 28, 2023 12:49:59 GMT -5
Super fair on not doing camp NaNo Your warriors fic sounds really interesting though and I love the plot! Fogpaw also seems very fun, I love grumpy characters lol It’s actually posted on WFF here too, but that’s just a first draft where chapters are really short (especially at the beginning). The plot really hasn’t started that much yet because it’s the first book, but you could check it out if you’d like. Linnk to thread: wcrpforums.com/post/3478253/thread I got youI just checked it out and read the current 11 chapters! It’s good! I enjoyed reading it!
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Jul 28, 2023 12:51:50 GMT -5
As far as discussions go though. Did anyone do Camp NaNo? If so, did you hit your goals? I managed to hit 50k this month, despite being super busy, so I’m pretty proud about that. I also wanna know a) what y’all’s main story is, and who your favorite character from that story is as well I had full intentions of doing Camp NaNo, at least unofficially. So I wouldn’t submit anything or join anything but I’d use the month to write & possibly finish something. But soon as July hit, I was doomed from the start. I thought I would be able to force myself to find the time to write, but I’ve got a lot going on at the moment. All my spare time has been going to moving & buying a house & all that entails That’s so awesome that you were able to reach your goal!! See, I do NaNo but I literally never use the website, I don’t know why, laziness maybe? Either way, I’m dedicated to not using the website now, even though I do NaNo and call NaNo every year. That’s super fair though, I totally get it being a busy month, I’ve been super busy too, I’m hoping August is less busy
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Post by valleylight on Jul 28, 2023 13:29:47 GMT -5
I’m working on an old story I shelved a while back. It’s a coming-of-age fantasy series that starts as a mystery, then later transitions to adventure, with flashbacks from historical figures and the main characters’ parents. It’s called The Valley Lights— I was a couple years into writing it back when I joined the forums, lol!
My favorite character is probably Lori, the primary protagonist. But a close second is Maldwyn, her friend Macsen’s father, who’s a grief-stricken archivist and former Captain’s orderly obsessed with finding the lost Isle of Luchs, believed to be a threshold between worlds.
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 28, 2023 16:32:26 GMT -5
Did anyone do Camp NaNo? If so, did you hit your goals? I managed to hit 50k this month, despite being super busy, so I’m pretty proud about that. I also wanna know a) what y’all’s main story is, and who your favorite character from that story is as well I never do Camp, but that's only because I keep forgetting it's even a thing lol! But hey, good for you! 💖 The main story I'm trying to focus on right now basically has to do with religious corruption and the burden the next generation has to carry for their ancestors' mistakes. Key word here is trying and also failing tremendously, because I keep putting all my focus on world and character building instead. Mind you, characters that aren't even in the main cast, much less the present timeline! I did however rewrite the first chapter, so it's something at least. I wouldn't mind another beta reader if you're interested. On that note, my favorite character right now is this one from the past who's inspired by Saint Olga of Kyiv.
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Post by Brownie on Jul 28, 2023 22:17:16 GMT -5
uh my main project that I'm TRYING SO DESPERATELY to keep motivation for is a psychological horror/mystery........ I'm not very good at either of those genres tho so it's been very challenging to keep at it because well, it sucks but that's how you learn I suppose and now that I'm pretty consistantly writing 50k's every month, I haven't really bothered with nano. maybe I'll try this november with 100k but I think I'd rather keep my pace. not that my 50k's have ever been a NOVEL. Only two of those 50k months have been with a single project, and the biggest one was a fanfic lmaooo Ayy!! A mystery!! I love a good mystery, and I’m sure it’ll be great Mystery is really fun to write, and to read in my opinion Who’s your favorite character in the story you’re working on? You’re writing consistently and that’s what counts! I pretty much average 50k or more a month as well, so usually for NaNo it’s to see how fast I can get there I've read very few mysteries and very few horror novels. so really I'm jumping in blind. I tend to dislike heavy mystery novels which....... makes it very odd that I'm choosing to WRITE one Also I kinda dislike all my characters so far? The head researcher is cool, but like... he's never on screen? You get to see some of his notes and watch him go mad through that, but he's dead by the time the main character arrives so. yeah. The main character is kinda cool too but I don't like her only because I still haven't picked a good voice for her narration yet and it's driving me insane trying to find something that fits the tone, fits the plot arc, and also is just. satisfying for the reader? She's a marine biologist tho so she gets points for that. That's an awesome pace to set! And a good way of using nano tbh. I don't think I want to try and beat my record for 50k because uhhhhh that was a Lot. Maybe if I get into the groove of something I want to publish. I really really want to finish a complete draft this year that's my goal. Making Nighthawks serial was such a good choice!! Does it let you have more polish on the individual parts?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2023 12:24:11 GMT -5
You can do it! Work on the mystery!
I finished all the Kinships for The Clawed Chronicles, and I got inspired by BloodClan to make the Iron Syndicate. Also a tempoary name for the first book is: Journey Windward.
Little Info on TCC (I'm going to write this like a TV show summary): What once had been Warrior Clans are now Knightly Kinships, those that had been taught by a precarious Code have molded into felines with souls as twisted as nature's law. Legends have become reality and darkness wears it's bloody crown. You, a seeker of stories, has found yourself lost in this cruel world. The Clawed Chronicles have begun.
(This is a terrible summary, it sounded super cool and longer in my head, but now it is this).
P.S While working on characters I used a wheel to determined if they would be blind, paralyzed, etc. I really wanted another fully paralyzed cat like Briarlight, but I only got one.
(Also one of the Kinships is the Galeseekers and almost all the toms are white with blue eyes and deaf...and the tom is almost all toms. It is just a colony of deaf white cats running around. A tabby queen in another Kinship had kittens that were white-furred, blue-eyed, and deaf. I was like: "Oh, well their heritage won't be a secret now."
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Jul 31, 2023 15:50:04 GMT -5
eternally caught between wanting to talk about my WIP all the time and not wanting to share too much in an open online forum :') plz nobody quote this lol
In terms of basic plot my story is about a criminal given a choice between facing the justice system and a probable death sentence, or pursuing a borderline suicide mission to rescue the daughter of the officer who caught him, who was left stranded in a different country when a semi-apocalyptic event occurred and cut off all standard methods of travel. I think this kinda made it sound like an action thriller but that's not really what it is on a whole, it's like a weird conglomerate of scifi/dystopian/alt-history/crimefic/horror elements. The scope of the plot also shifts a lot over the course of the series (which will likely be tetralogy with the current way i have the plot outlined?), there's a lot of side characters and subplots, and a messy geopolitical situation that the main characters get tangled up in resolving. Thematically the deuteragonists (criminal and the girl he's "rescuing" who forge a rather toxic attachment to each other) are philosophical (and theological) opposites and there's a lot of conflict there, and there's some exploration of nature vs. nurture and moral objectivity/relativism.
My favorite character kinda depends on who I'm currently writing/developing at the moment but it's usually the criminal main character, he's just the most fun to write. Also very fond of one of the antagonists who's attempting to get revenge on the criminal mc for one of his past crimes. One of my plotting struggles has been trying to figure out how to end that particular conflict in a way that's believable and satisfying to both character arcs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 16:21:44 GMT -5
They both DIE...the best character arc (just kidding, just kidding! I can remove this comment if you want!)
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Jul 31, 2023 19:13:48 GMT -5
@angelfire as funny as that would be tbh they don't really have the kind of conflict that could reasonably end with both of them dead. I've played around with different variants of the ending, who lives, who dies, if they both survive, etc. and I just haven't figured out what feels most authentic to the story yet. will probably become more clear as i get closer to actually writing said ending lol
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 31, 2023 19:52:24 GMT -5
moral objectivity/relativism. Yoo high five for exploration of moral relativism/objectivity through writing
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 31, 2023 20:08:04 GMT -5
Who would you say, is your favorite character in the story? Sorry for late response, I missed this the first time! I love all my children equally. But also not really, I definitely have favorites. Right now it's probably Josef Petrovich Kolyenov, if only because I've had to put so much work and brain energy into developing his character that I can't not be super attached to it all. He was the one I was complaining a few days ago about having to unscramble. I genuinely really like what I have going with him, there's just a lot of stuff still to figure out. His main struggle/character arc is learning the place of suffering in the world. To summarize him plainly, Josef is a man who loves very easily but finds that only causes him pain, so he went through a dark period of shutting himself off to the world. Now under the tutelage of a kinda dubious mentor figure, he's learned to thaw out that apathy, but the new worldview he's adopted as a way to cope is still off the mark morally. Josef's someone who wants to be good; he just doesn't fully understand what that means/looks like. So he's endlessly chasing the concept of goodness despite always feeling like it's just beyond his grasp. And in the mean time, struggling with all the awful stuff Josef did during his hedonistic apathy era. He sorta flops back and forth between intense self-loathing + thinking there's no saving his soul, and hoping that he can redeem himself by pursuing the Good^tm. The part I'm having the most trouble with is crafting his background in such a way to support this character formation. I have a few things figured out, but right now I'm trying to decide how exactly he got from sweet kid who loves too easily to alcoholic gang member trying to drown out the world. There's definitely a route there...it's just evading me right now, lol.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jul 31, 2023 20:17:40 GMT -5
Wait writing that out actually helped me figure something out about him. Eureka!
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Aug 3, 2023 11:40:13 GMT -5
Y'all ever get concerned about how a potential audience will interpret certain characters or messages or smthn. I know the reading experience is a collaborative interpretation with the reader, and I need to accept that people will likely get ideas from my stories I never intended, including ones I might deeply disagree with, but occasionally I get really defensive of my original written intent lol
also this didn't come about because of anything deep I just had a sudden bad feeling readers are going to turn my main character into a tumblr sexyman :|
although I am also a bit worried about some of my thematic messaging tbh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2023 11:42:01 GMT -5
Yeah, same
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 3, 2023 17:55:35 GMT -5
Y'all ever get concerned about how a potential audience will interpret certain characters or messages or smthn. I know the reading experience is a collaborative interpretation with the reader, and I need to accept that people will likely get ideas from my stories I never intended, including ones I might deeply disagree with, but occasionally I get really defensive of my original written intent lol
also this didn't come about because of anything deep I just had a sudden bad feeling readers are going to turn my main character into a tumblr sexyman :|
although I am also a bit worried about some of my thematic messaging tbh
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Post by Brownie on Aug 3, 2023 18:43:04 GMT -5
not really? at least not in that way.
I'm always really happy to see interpretations of my work that I didn't immediately intend: that means someone saw a piece of themselves, of their struggle, in a character. And that usually means I did a good job. Even if it's not something I personally see, or agree with: as soon as I put it out there, it's not really my story anymore. It's there to make people think and (hopefully) reframe their own personal struggles in a new light. I don't think it's possible for anyone to twist my writing into any absolutely rancid takes, because those require at least SOME proof, at least one leg to stand on, and let's be honest, it's hard enough to put in INTENTIONAL moral lessons; if something slips through and does have enough evidence to prove it, then it must be my current viewpoint of the world that is flawed and that's up to ME to reflect my biases.
I only had One(1) experience with a writing circle where I shared a piece about the Trans Experience and this lady, somehow, decided that my dissembling of gender stereotypes was, indeed, somehow praising toxic feminine ideals??? And said the stereotypes are okay because "men aren't supposed to understand women" and that my (trans) male character is okay for being a bully because "that's just how boys are". And I was just sitting there like. . .
I wasn't even UPSET at that interpretation because 1) no one ELSE thought that about my work, and was just as confused as me to how she jumped to those conclusions and 2) there are wrong answers in literature class and turning a trans story into somehow defending toxic femininity is one of them and 3) I already knew this lady for being rather close-minded; not in a mean way, more in a naive way? she often tries to give people "advice" that is completely and utterly wrong because her reading comprehension levels are... probably worse than a primary school kid's. She simply cannot comprehend a perspective that is not her own, or read subtext that isn't explicitly stated in the text.
The funniest thing is that she told me privately after (once we'd discussed the text and it was made clear that this was about a trans experience) that she still loved the story and read it three times before the meeting because it resonated with her own high school experience so much. And then gave me an anecdote that completely contradicted the entire theme I was going for. So.
tl;dr: people are always going to misinterpret your work if they're determined to, but they are that weird 0.001% and they shouldn't be the people you listen to when getting feedback. The majority is what is representitive of what readers see when they interact with your work and those are the people you should look to in order to check if your themes are clear.
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Aug 3, 2023 18:58:35 GMT -5
Main story: currently doesn't have a title lol Favourite character: uh oh, too hard to choose. Probably Rosa, I really like them and their tragic backstory/ personality Oh nice! Tell me a little about Rosa? I’d love to learn more about them! Sorry for late reply but: He's just a good boy. I just... like him a lot. Like all my characters, he's really traumatised (bad parents) and just struggles a lot with everything. He is a knight, one of the best in the kingdom, but he has a lot of imposter syndrome (because in this world only men can become knights, and since he's AFAB he is terrified of being exposed and everyone hating him, also this world is like, medieval so LGBTQIA+ is considered taboo) He also makes poor choices, but he's trying his best. He has a lot of baggage and isn't quite sure what to think, because most humans think magic=bad and although he has seen a lot of bad things happen due to magical beings, he also remembers how Johanna (a witch) was a much better mom to him than his actual mom and was much kinder than most other people, despite her magic. Unfortunately, he has a lot of problems with being brainwashed, because while he has a strong sense of justice he isn't the smartest (he also has bad memory because trauma), so he can be convinced to do the wrong thing thinking it's right fairly easily. He also gets romance angst, because everyone has a crush on the handsome knight who never shows his face and he has a lot of crushes, but can't love anyone because they'd discover his secret He's also a redhead
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Aug 6, 2023 0:40:03 GMT -5
Y'all ever get concerned about how a potential audience will interpret certain characters or messages or smthn. I know the reading experience is a collaborative interpretation with the reader, and I need to accept that people will likely get ideas from my stories I never intended, including ones I might deeply disagree with, but occasionally I get really defensive of my original written intent lol
also this didn't come about because of anything deep I just had a sudden bad feeling readers are going to turn my main character into a tumblr sexyman :|
although I am also a bit worried about some of my thematic messaging tbh ASDFDTFSGSGGHHGH saving this one for the project meme bank thank u
it's a real source of dread tho my son deserves better than being reduced to 'chaos gremlin with snappy one-liners'
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Aug 6, 2023 0:45:48 GMT -5
not really? at least not in that way. I'm always really happy to see interpretations of my work that I didn't immediately intend: that means someone saw a piece of themselves, of their struggle, in a character. And that usually means I did a good job. Even if it's not something I personally see, or agree with: as soon as I put it out there, it's not really my story anymore. It's there to make people think and (hopefully) reframe their own personal struggles in a new light. I don't think it's possible for anyone to twist my writing into any absolutely rancid takes, because those require at least SOME proof, at least one leg to stand on, and let's be honest, it's hard enough to put in INTENTIONAL moral lessons; if something slips through and does have enough evidence to prove it, then it must be my current viewpoint of the world that is flawed and that's up to ME to reflect my biases. I only had One(1) experience with a writing circle where I shared a piece about the Trans Experience and this lady, somehow, decided that my dissembling of gender stereotypes was, indeed, somehow praising toxic feminine ideals??? And said the stereotypes are okay because "men aren't supposed to understand women" and that my (trans) male character is okay for being a bully because "that's just how boys are". And I was just sitting there like. . . I wasn't even UPSET at that interpretation because 1) no one ELSE thought that about my work, and was just as confused as me to how she jumped to those conclusions and 2) there are wrong answers in literature class and turning a trans story into somehow defending toxic femininity is one of them and 3) I already knew this lady for being rather close-minded; not in a mean way, more in a naive way? she often tries to give people "advice" that is completely and utterly wrong because her reading comprehension levels are... probably worse than a primary school kid's. She simply cannot comprehend a perspective that is not her own, or read subtext that isn't explicitly stated in the text. The funniest thing is that she told me privately after (once we'd discussed the text and it was made clear that this was about a trans experience) that she still loved the story and read it three times before the meeting because it resonated with her own high school experience so much. And then gave me an anecdote that completely contradicted the entire theme I was going for. So. tl;dr: people are always going to misinterpret your work if they're determined to, but they are that weird 0.001% and they shouldn't be the people you listen to when getting feedback. The majority is what is representitive of what readers see when they interact with your work and those are the people you should look to in order to check if your themes are clear. I think part of my issue is that ultimately I do consider the story mine even after it's out in the world. It's not that it can't also be the reader's, but my writing feels like a part of me and even when it's about something completely out there and unfamiliar it's very much shaped by my creative process and worldview. It's how I read lit too tbh, I find it odd when analyses disregard the author's thoughts, background, and worldview in relation to their work, like a frequent example being when people ignore the influence an author's religion played on their writing.
I also wanna say I don't really mind new interpretations or additional thoughts people saw in the work that I didn't intend, I think analysis that adds more to the conversation in terms of evidence and perspectives is generally a good thing, it's more a worry of the intent being reduced i think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2023 6:30:57 GMT -5
Very interesting!!
I just finished the prologue of 'Warriors Gone Wrong' Got to rename it and I haven't written any stories past the first page lately (I mean, a year) and I'm super proud. I've already started working on Chapter 1 and with how long it's been since I've written anything, I'm kinda surprised my writing is the way it is. It took me a lot of time to write that prologue, which may be short, but I've seen others on here write stories much longer than that. And I wanted to say it takes a lot of discipline and courage in order to put all the things that make up a story on paper (or a document).
I wanted to say thank you to the tons of people's fanfictions I've read and to keep writing.
(lol, this probably sounds weird now)
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Name Colour
Captain Americat
"Don't frown, someone could be falling in love with your smile." - Teen Wolf
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Post by Captain Americat on Aug 9, 2023 6:27:17 GMT -5
Non-existent at the moment. Too much going on.
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Aug 9, 2023 11:23:53 GMT -5
Same boat as Captain. One of my jobs is having a crisis atm so I'm working significantly more hours and nothing is getting done in my personal life cause even when i have free time i'm too exhausted to use it :')
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 9, 2023 13:12:25 GMT -5
I've been off and on. Currently out of town at my in-laws so that limits how much thinking and thunking I can do.
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Post by Brownie on Aug 9, 2023 13:37:27 GMT -5
I've decided to learn waterfowl by call so I've been becoming one with the marsh for the last week
I was supposed to maybe write with some people today at the library but plans fell through :(
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Post by Brownie on Aug 9, 2023 14:22:47 GMT -5
Awh. Hopefully you’ll be able to meet up with them another time. I wish I had people to write with, but none of my friends really like writing and I suck at making new friends irl so uhm yeah how to make a friend: find someone that you like their vibe annoy them keep annoying them until they find it endearing or tell you to go away repeat until you made all the friends also join writing groups. Libraries are usually a great place to start, as are some indie bookstores. I'd start with libraries tho they tend to be a bit nicer. Writing workshop groups are harder to find but just as precious if you can manage to break into one; that usually involves going to publishing events and talking to people until you find your genre of workshop and/or looking into university or community college resources to help connect with authors that run classes and workshop events. Once you get into one, it's easier to get into more; that first one is the biggest hurdle. alternatively, publish something, become a nyt bestseller, and then leverage your newfound fame to make your own local writing club
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Post by valleylight on Aug 9, 2023 22:36:16 GMT -5
After over a year, I finally finished the next chapter of my Warriors fanfic! Whew.
So that averages out to about 5 words a day. I have a very achievable record to break
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2023 6:35:36 GMT -5
Yay!
Also Help: I'm trying to rewrite Into the Wild, Chapter 1, but I can't figure out what I want in the chapter! I have the dream starting the chapter written out, and I know I want the chapter to end with Charcoal (Graypaw) attacking Rusty, but I don't know what the 'middle' is.
Any ideas? Should I look at other people's rewrites and see what they used? Should I completely scrap Chapter 1 and make up something different?
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