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Post by Jaysnow on Jan 29, 2023 0:38:42 GMT -5
We've talked about some things you'd like to see in Riverstar's Home in other threads but I don't think we've talked a whole lot about what you'd hate to see in this Super Edition.
What's one (or two) things you'd absolutely not like to see get canonized?
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 29, 2023 6:10:17 GMT -5
Riverstar getting a mate and having kits.
Because not only does it not fit with his canon characterization (he is not shown to be interested in she-cats/settling down during any of the DotC books so far even if that just might only be due to his limited appearances and focus in the overall story) up until now but also because of some of my own (obviously fanon) headcanons. I know me shipping GrayRiver or seeing Riverstar as gay is irrelevant in terms of the actual books but still wanted to just include that here.
Although something tells me that the writing team might just still give him one. Probably Night.
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Post by 🌌dapple🌙 (formerly freckle) on Jan 29, 2023 7:16:37 GMT -5
Riverstar getting a mate and having kits. Because not only does it not fit with his canon characterization (he is not shown to be interested in she-cats/settling down during any of the DotC books so far even if that just might only be due to his limited appearances and focus in the overall story) up until now but also because of some of my own (obviously fanon) headcanons. I know me shipping GrayRiver or seeing Riverstar as gay is irrelevant in terms of the actual books but still wanted to just include that here. Although something tells me that the writing team might just still give him one. Probably Night. Legit this. It feels like the team doesn't know how to write characters if their story doesn't end in a "happy family life" sorta way and it kills me everytime. The idea that cats- ESPECIALLY A FUTURE FIRST LEADER OF THE CLANS- needs a mate and kits in order to be seen as "remembered" or "have a legacy" is so stupid. But I can only imagine with MC Frostpaw looking somewhat like him that she's a far far distant descendant, like how Windstar apparently is to Crowfeather and therefore Breezepelt, Heathertail, etc. Plus it just wouldn't add anything of substance aside from (if it's done well) cute family moments and just more kittens and queens to retcon into the family tree. Which is kinda sad because in terms of how distorted family trees are, RiverClan is one of the least bad I believe, next to SkyClan. So yeah no. No lover no kits please. I'm hoisting my aroace Riverstar flag.
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Post by Violet6Echoes on Jan 29, 2023 8:58:27 GMT -5
Like others said, my main worry is that they will try to put romance in this story where it doesn’t belong. The plot seems interesting enough on its own, it doesn’t need a rushed and horribly written romance subplot. Also were my nice leaders that don’t have mate and kits at?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jan 29, 2023 9:18:40 GMT -5
Like others said, my main worry is that they will try to put romance in this story where it doesn’t belong. The plot seems interesting enough on its own, it doesn’t need a rushed and horribly written romance subplot. Also were my nice leaders that don’t have mate and kits at? Shadowstar never took a mate. Harestar, Heatherstar, Nightstar, Cedarstar... There are a lot of cats that are not mentioned to have mates.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 9:50:37 GMT -5
Hard agree on what others have already said: Riverstar getting a mate and kits.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 29, 2023 10:07:02 GMT -5
Like others said, my main worry is that they will try to put romance in this story where it doesn’t belong. The plot seems interesting enough on its own, it doesn’t need a rushed and horribly written romance subplot. Also were my nice leaders that don’t have mate and kits at? Shadowstar never took a mate. Harestar, Heatherstar, Nightstar, Cedarstar... There are a lot of cats that are not mentioned to have mates. Blackstar, Leopardstar, Tallstar, and Sunstar, too. I don’t recall Hailstar having one either. You could potentially count Bluestar too, since she renounced her mate and kits and never had either during her leadership.
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 29, 2023 10:23:04 GMT -5
Shadowstar never took a mate. Harestar, Heatherstar, Nightstar, Cedarstar... There are a lot of cats that are not mentioned to have mates. Blackstar, Leopardstar, Tallstar, and Sunstar, too. I don’t recall Hailstar having one either. You could potentially count Bluestar too, since she renounced her mate and kits and never had either during her leadership. Hailstar had a mate and three kits. Hailstar’s mate was Echomist. Their sons were Voleclaw and Beetlenose and their daughter was Petaldust.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 29, 2023 10:24:12 GMT -5
Shadowstar never took a mate. Harestar, Heatherstar, Nightstar, Cedarstar... There are a lot of cats that are not mentioned to have mates. Blackstar, Leopardstar, Tallstar, and Sunstar, too. I don’t recall Hailstar having one either.You could potentially count Bluestar too, since she renounced her mate and kits and never had either during her leadership. Hailstar was specifically mentioned in the beginning of Crookedstar's Promise to be mates with Echomist. Their kits together are Beetlenose, Voleclaw and Petaldust.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Jan 29, 2023 10:27:27 GMT -5
I don’t really have many concerns. Them not including his parents and/or Arc would probably be my biggest disappointment.
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Post by Violet6Echoes on Jan 29, 2023 10:31:27 GMT -5
Blackstar, Leopardstar, Tallstar, and Sunstar, too. I don’t recall Hailstar having one either.You could potentially count Bluestar too, since she renounced her mate and kits and never had either during her leadership. Hailstar was specifically mentioned in the beginning of Crookedstar's Promise to be mates with Echomist. Their kits together are Beetlenose, Voleclaw and Petaldust. Ya’ll I’m sorry I meant protagonist leaders who never had mates, and ur definitely right about Blackstar but Leopardstar did have Frogleap as a mate at one point
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 29, 2023 10:41:37 GMT -5
Hailstar was specifically mentioned in the beginning of Crookedstar's Promise to be mates with Echomist. Their kits together are Beetlenose, Voleclaw and Petaldust. Ya’ll I’m sorry I meant protagonist leaders who never had mates, and ur definitely right about Blackstar but Leopardstar did have Frogleap as a mate at one point I didn't say that (about Blackstar or Leopardstar), rainleaf and saint did. But anyways, don't be sorry. Because you're right that most protagonist leaders did end up with mates and kits. But not all of them though.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jan 29, 2023 10:43:45 GMT -5
Hailstar was specifically mentioned in the beginning of Crookedstar's Promise to be mates with Echomist. Their kits together are Beetlenose, Voleclaw and Petaldust. Ya’ll I’m sorry I meant protagonist leaders who never had mates, and ur definitely right about Blackstar but Leopardstar did have Frogleap as a mate at one point I don't think they were official.
Since you're referring to that, the only characters I think of off the top of my head that had at least a POV were Tallstar and Shadowstar.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 29, 2023 12:41:34 GMT -5
Hailstar was specifically mentioned in the beginning of Crookedstar's Promise to be mates with Echomist. Their kits together are Beetlenose, Voleclaw and Petaldust. Ya’ll I’m sorry I meant protagonist leaders who never had mates, and ur definitely right about Blackstar but Leopardstar did have Frogleap as a mate at one point I don't think they were ever mates. They admitted they liked each other, but specifically decided not to start a relationship because Leopardfur didn't want to settle down. Unless you mean leaders who never had any romantic inclinations, although that's different from being a leader ending up with a mate/kits. In which case Tallstar wouldn't count either (if you consider his affection for Jake canon). If you're only counting POV/protagonists, that only leaves Blackstar, Nightstar, and Shadowstar.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jan 29, 2023 15:24:56 GMT -5
I hope it’s not a journey book, and I hope it’s primarily focused on the Clans after Shadowstar’s Life. I’m not interested at all in the Cats of the Park, so I want as little about them as possible, but unfortunately the blurb is not making that look very likely. I don’t care much about Riverstar either, so honestly what I want is to just see how the other early Clan cats are doing after the DOTC-era books we’ve had. I really want confirmation of RiverClan’s second leader and how Riverstar dies.
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Post by *Faith* on Jan 29, 2023 18:29:22 GMT -5
I'm just worried that they'll once again forget that Willow Tail is dead. The allegiances of TE and SL have her in them, despite the fact that she gave Windstar a life. Likewise, her friend Fern Leaf seems to have been forgotten about. I really do feel like a mix up happened with these two.
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Post by Fireleap on Jan 29, 2023 19:03:58 GMT -5
I want the focus to be on Riverstar, not what events are going on around Riverstar if that makes sense. He is the least explored of the founders, imo he's barely a character and I don't want him to just be a camera rehashing DotC.
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