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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 31, 2022 10:10:57 GMT -5
Alright, you may be horrified. According to the family tree, Patchpelt is Graystripe’s father. Patchpelt is also Willowpelt’s older brother. Apparently Graystripe’s parents were siblings. It doesn’t say anything about his father on the wiki but this is what I got off of the family tree. I’d like to think his father died before he was born instead of this. Not only was this information of Patchpelt previously getting said to be Graystripe's father widely known in the fandom (as well as him being Willowpelt's older brother and thus the PatchWillow ship being incestuous) but it has also been retconned again by the writers/editors ever since then. Which is exactly why Patchpelt is no longer referred to as Graystripe's dad on the wiki since that info is no longer (thankfully) considered canon. Similarly to this, Tawnyspots was formerly stated to be Darkstripe's father. But this has been retconned as well since Tawnyspots died before Willowpelt even became a warrior. Darkstripe and Graystripe are still half-brothers though since Willowpelt is the mother to both of them. Canonically, neither Darkstripe or Graystripe have a confirmed father anymore and I'm highly doubtful that new ones for both of them will ever be confirmed. I once saw an AU (a comic called Redtail's Choice) where Stonefur was the dad of all of Willowpelt's kits. And honestly? Even though it's just a headcanon/idea, I've accepted it as a headcanon myself since it makes the story more tragic (considering that Darkstripe helped to kill Stonefur). Granted, this of course would mean that Graystripe and Silverstream are related but it's not like that's anything new in this series anymore.
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Post by cygna on Dec 31, 2022 10:33:45 GMT -5
Officially, he doesn't have one.
Initially, his father was Patchpelt but then the prequels confirmed both Patchpelt and Willowpelt were the children of Swiftbreeze and Adderfang from different litters and the family tree made Graystripe's father a mystery cat.
So, it really could be almost anybody:
- A rouge
- A kittypet
- Featherwhisker the med cat
- A cat from a different clan
- Smallear (Unlikely since he has a mate)
- Halftail (Unlikely since he has a mate)
- Runningwind (Unlikely since Willowpelt told him she was expecting Whitestorm's kits and he congratulated her, but who knows, he could just be an insanely supportive ex)
- Lionheart (Unlikely since he has a mate and is Graystripe's mentor, though that doesn't mean much these days)
- Longtail (I think he's too young but youth doesn't necessarily stop everybody since Scorchfur is right there)
Cats it definitely can't be:
- Patchpelt & Redtail (Willowpelt's literal brothers)
- Darkstripe (Officially Willowpelt's kit)
- Tigerstar (He literally tried to murder Graystripe's kits, and Tigerstar doesn't really give a **** if a cat is half-clan as long as they're his descendants given he's never tried to hurt Hawkfrost, Mothwing, or Tigerheart, especially on the basis of them being half-clan cats)
- Whitestorm (Graystripe explicitly said that Whitestorm's kits were his half siblings, if Whitestorm was his father, he would have mentioned it, just like how he mentioned Willowpelt was his mom)
I'd just put my money on a random kittypet/rouge
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Post by fangbranch on Dec 31, 2022 10:34:28 GMT -5
Alright, you may be horrified. According to the family tree, Patchpelt is Graystripe’s father. Patchpelt is also Willowpelt’s older brother. Apparently Graystripe’s parents were siblings. It doesn’t say anything about his father on the wiki but this is what I got off of the family tree. I’d like to think his father died before he was born instead of this. Not only was this information of Patchpelt previously getting said to be Graystripe's father widely known in the fandom (as well as him being Willowpelt's older brother and thus the PatchWillow ship being incestuous) but it has also been retconned again by the writers/editors ever since then. Which is exactly why Patchpelt is no longer referred to as Graystripe's dad on the wiki since that info is no longer (thankfully) considered canon. Similarly to this, Tawnyspots was formerly stated to be Darkstripe's father. But this has been retconned as well since Tawnyspots died before Willowpelt even became a warrior. Darkstripe and Graystripe are still half-brothers though since Willowpelt is the mother to both of them. Canonically, neither Darkstripe or Graystripe have a confirmed father anymore and I'm highly doubtful that new ones for both of them will ever be confirmed. I once saw an AU (a comic called Redtail's Choice) where Stonefur was the dad of all of Willowpelt's kits. And honestly? Even though it's just a headcanon/idea, I've accepted it as a headcanon myself since it makes the story more tragic (considering that Darkstripe helped to kill Stonefur). Granted, this of course would mean that Graystripe and Silverstream are related but it's not like that's anything new in this series anymore. oh I like that idea, ya know besides the cousins thing. But I guess my other question would be who else would be a viable option then? Adderfang had died by then? I think. Runningwind was too young.
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Post by ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ on Dec 31, 2022 10:42:56 GMT -5
Alright, you may be horrified. According to the family tree, Patchpelt is Graystripe’s father. Patchpelt is also Willowpelt’s older brother. Apparently Graystripe’s parents were siblings. It doesn’t say anything about his father on the wiki but this is what I got off of the family tree. I’d like to think his father died before he was born instead of this. Not only was this information of Patchpelt previously getting said to be Graystripe's father widely known in the fandom (as well as him being Willowpelt's older brother and thus the PatchWillow ship being incestuous) but it has also been retconned again by the writers/editors ever since then. Which is exactly why Patchpelt is no longer referred to as Graystripe's dad on the wiki since that info is no longer (thankfully) considered canon. Similarly to this, Tawnyspots was formerly stated to be Darkstripe's father. But this has been retconned as well since Tawnyspots died before Willowpelt even became a warrior. Darkstripe and Graystripe are still half-brothers though since Willowpelt is the mother to both of them. Canonically, neither Darkstripe or Graystripe have a confirmed father anymore and I'm highly doubtful that new ones for both of them will ever be confirmed. I once saw an AU (a comic called Redtail's Choice) where Stonefur was the dad of all of Willowpelt's kits. And honestly? Even though it's just a headcanon/idea, I've accepted it as a headcanon myself since it makes the story more tragic (considering that Darkstripe helped to kill Stonefur). Granted, this of course would mean that Graystripe and Silverstream are related but it's not like that's anything new in this series anymore. It’s no longer cannon? Thank god. Also, sounds like a cool headcanon.
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Post by Chicken on Dec 31, 2022 14:00:43 GMT -5
First we need to figure out who it can't be I'm discounting any rogues/kittypets/loners the way the clans were back then, I'm sure it would have been made a bigger deal, people are free to disagree, but this is how I see it It has been confirmed in text that it's not Whitestorm We can count out Willowpelt's brother's too because I doubt they'd go that far with the close relationships (even if they did in the past) So that takes out Redtail and Patchpelt I'm also taking out Darkstripe since he is confirmed to be Willowpelt's son Tawnyspots died when Willowpelt was still a warrior but wasn't that in Redtail's Debt? I have a hard time taking anything in that book as something that won't later change, but right now, we'll knock Tawnyspots out of the running It can't be Adderfang since Willowpelt is his daughter I feel like Longtail would be too young, he's only like 14 moons old in Into the Wild and Graystripe is 7 (or 6?) I think I'm going to go with Smallear, he and Graystripe are both grey (I know looking like your parents isn't a big thing in Warriors unless it's important to the plot, usually, but still) also Lionheart was Smallear's son and the thought of him being a mentor to his little half bro is kinda cute imo I'm locking in Smallear as my final answer
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Post by fangbranch on Dec 31, 2022 14:28:31 GMT -5
First we need to figure out who it can't be I'm discounting any rogues/kittypets/loners the way the clans were back then, I'm sure it would have been made a bigger deal, people are free to disagree, but this is how I see it It has been confirmed in text that it's not Whitestorm We can count out Willowpelt's brother's too because I doubt they'd go that far with the close relationships (even if they did in the past) So that takes out Redtail and Patchpelt I'm also taking out Darkstripe since he is confirmed to be Willowpelt's son Tawnyspots died when Willowpelt was still a warrior but wasn't that in Redtail's Debt? I have a hard time taking anything in that book as something that won't later change, but right now, we'll knock Tawnyspots out of the running It can't be Adderfang since Willowpelt is his daughter I feel like Longtail would be too young, he's only like 14 moons old in Into the Wild and Graystripe is 7 (or 6?) I think I'm going to go with Smallear, he and Graystripe are both grey (I know looking like your parents isn't a big thing in Warriors unless it's important to the plot, usually, but still) also Lionheart was Smallear's son and the thought of him being a mentor to his little half bro is kinda cute imo I'm locking in Smallear as my final answer smallear is a VERY good answer why didn't I think of that 😅
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Post by Katanaheart on Dec 31, 2022 14:31:24 GMT -5
Graystripe’s niece and nephew would then be Tawnypelt and Brambleclaw if his father was Smallear. (Which is kinda cute since his kits were briefly nursed by Goldenflower before being returned to RiverClan.)
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Dec 31, 2022 15:15:30 GMT -5
in a recent tree i made, i put thrushpelt down as darkstripe and graystripe's dad. thrushpelt either died before graystripe was born, or just after he was born bc graystripe doesnt ever mention a father figure or his dad at all, so he obviously had to die before then. i headcanon that thrushpelt would have been very disappointed with darkstripe, but he would still be patient with him, and maybe come off as overbearing sometimes, which would further drive darkstripe away and give him the attitude he has in the first arc and leads to him following tigerclaw so closely.
in an older tree i made, i had stonepelt from bluestar's SE as the dad...but i think people told me stonepelt would have been way too old to be able to father graystripe, so i think that headcanon is out.
theres headcanons i've seen of these being options for graystripe specifically: featherwhiser heronwing rabbitleap sunstar
but im also not sure of the timing for any of those options.
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Post by *Faith* on Dec 31, 2022 16:24:04 GMT -5
I like the idea of Thrushpelt being his father.
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Post by SquipyCheetah on Dec 31, 2022 18:08:40 GMT -5
HC: Patchpelt as a surrogate.
Otherwise... no effing clue.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 31, 2022 18:54:20 GMT -5
Not only was this information of Patchpelt previously getting said to be Graystripe's father widely known in the fandom (as well as him being Willowpelt's older brother and thus the PatchWillow ship being incestuous) but it has also been retconned again by the writers/editors ever since then. Which is exactly why Patchpelt is no longer referred to as Graystripe's dad on the wiki since that info is no longer (thankfully) considered canon. Similarly to this, Tawnyspots was formerly stated to be Darkstripe's father. But this has been retconned as well since Tawnyspots died before Willowpelt even became a warrior. Darkstripe and Graystripe are still half-brothers though since Willowpelt is the mother to both of them. Canonically, neither Darkstripe or Graystripe have a confirmed father anymore and I'm highly doubtful that new ones for both of them will ever be confirmed. I once saw an AU (a comic called Redtail's Choice) where Stonefur was the dad of all of Willowpelt's kits. And honestly? Even though it's just a headcanon/idea, I've accepted it as a headcanon myself since it makes the story more tragic (considering that Darkstripe helped to kill Stonefur). Granted, this of course would mean that Graystripe and Silverstream are related but it's not like that's anything new in this series anymore. oh I like that idea, ya know besides the cousins thing. But I guess my other question would be who else would be a viable option then? Adderfang had died by then? I think. Runningwind was too young. Adderfang? As in Willowpelt's own father? Big nope! I would even take Patchpelt over that (but not really though)!
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Post by Lunar-Fox on Dec 31, 2022 20:14:54 GMT -5
Not only was this information of Patchpelt previously getting said to be Graystripe's father widely known in the fandom (as well as him being Willowpelt's older brother and thus the PatchWillow ship being incestuous) but it has also been retconned again by the writers/editors ever since then. Which is exactly why Patchpelt is no longer referred to as Graystripe's dad on the wiki since that info is no longer (thankfully) considered canon. Similarly to this, Tawnyspots was formerly stated to be Darkstripe's father. But this has been retconned as well since Tawnyspots died before Willowpelt even became a warrior. Darkstripe and Graystripe are still half-brothers though since Willowpelt is the mother to both of them. Canonically, neither Darkstripe or Graystripe have a confirmed father anymore and I'm highly doubtful that new ones for both of them will ever be confirmed. I once saw an AU (a comic called Redtail's Choice) where Stonefur was the dad of all of Willowpelt's kits. And honestly? Even though it's just a headcanon/idea, I've accepted it as a headcanon myself since it makes the story more tragic (considering that Darkstripe helped to kill Stonefur). Granted, this of course would mean that Graystripe and Silverstream are related but it's not like that's anything new in this series anymore. oh I like that idea, ya know besides the cousins thing. But I guess my other question would be who else would be a viable option then? Adderfang had died by then? I think. Runningwind was too young. Adderfang was her father.
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Post by Lunar-Fox on Dec 31, 2022 20:22:54 GMT -5
First we need to figure out who it can't be I'm discounting any rogues/kittypets/loners the way the clans were back then, I'm sure it would have been made a bigger deal, people are free to disagree, but this is how I see it It has been confirmed in text that it's not Whitestorm We can count out Willowpelt's brother's too because I doubt they'd go that far with the close relationships (even if they did in the past) So that takes out Redtail and Patchpelt I'm also taking out Darkstripe since he is confirmed to be Willowpelt's son Tawnyspots died when Willowpelt was still a warrior but wasn't that in Redtail's Debt? I have a hard time taking anything in that book as something that won't later change, but right now, we'll knock Tawnyspots out of the running It can't be Adderfang since Willowpelt is his daughter I feel like Longtail would be too young, he's only like 14 moons old in Into the Wild and Graystripe is 7 (or 6?) I think I'm going to go with Smallear, he and Graystripe are both grey (I know looking like your parents isn't a big thing in Warriors unless it's important to the plot, usually, but still) also Lionheart was Smallear's son and the thought of him being a mentor to his little half bro is kinda cute imo I'm locking in Smallear as my final answer smallear is a VERY good answer why didn't I think of that 😅 No, no it's not. Smallear is far older then her, a 5 year age gap. Smallear also already has mate
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Post by Moonblazer on Dec 31, 2022 20:26:34 GMT -5
I like Thrushpelt being his papa!
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Post by Jayie on Dec 31, 2022 20:49:48 GMT -5
I headcanon Thrushpelt as his dad with him and Willowpelt in a “friends who both wanted kits and decided to raise them together as friends” kinda relationship, and Darkstripe’s dad as a kittypet Willowpelt befriended as a young cat. I headcanon that she used to visit Twolegplace as a younger cat because she sometimes felt lonely/left out with her littermates because of how dedicated they were to their roles (or hoped-for future role in Redtail’s case), and visiting twolegplace and chatting with the kitty pets there eased the loneliness. The kittypet tom didn’t want to join TC to help raise his son, but he and Willowpelt remained on friendly terms. In my mind, Whitestorm was the only mate she truly fell in love with.
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Post by fuzzycat on Dec 31, 2022 20:53:06 GMT -5
i was going to say whitestorm, but i like the idea of thrushpelt being the dad
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Dec 31, 2022 23:13:56 GMT -5
I headcanon Thrushpelt as his dad with him and Willowpelt in a “friends who both wanted kits and decided to raise them together as friends” kinda relationship, and Darkstripe’s dad as a kittypet Willowpelt befriended as a young cat. I headcanon that she used to visit Twolegplace as a younger cat because she sometimes felt lonely/left out with her littermates because of how dedicated they were to their roles (or hoped-for future role in Redtail’s case), and visiting twolegplace and chatting with the kitty pets there eased the loneliness. The kittypet tom didn’t want to join TC to help raise his son, but he and Willowpelt remained on friendly terms. In my mind, Whitestorm was the only mate she truly fell in love with. i love these headcanons!
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Dec 31, 2022 23:34:05 GMT -5
I headcanon Thrushpelt as his dad with him and Willowpelt in a “friends who both wanted kits and decided to raise them together as friends” kinda relationship, and Darkstripe’s dad as a kittypet Willowpelt befriended as a young cat. I headcanon that she used to visit Twolegplace as a younger cat because she sometimes felt lonely/left out with her littermates because of how dedicated they were to their roles (or hoped-for future role in Redtail’s case), and visiting twolegplace and chatting with the kitty pets there eased the loneliness. The kittypet tom didn’t want to join TC to help raise his son, but he and Willowpelt remained on friendly terms. In my mind, Whitestorm was the only mate she truly fell in love with. i love these headcanons! So do I!
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Post by fangbranch on Jan 1, 2023 7:49:43 GMT -5
oh I like that idea, ya know besides the cousins thing. But I guess my other question would be who else would be a viable option then? Adderfang had died by then? I think. Runningwind was too young. Adderfang? As in Willowpelt's own father? Big nope! I would even take Patchpelt over that (but not really though)! I forgot adderfang was her father. Theres so many cats I can't keep them organized
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 1, 2023 8:20:06 GMT -5
Adderfang? As in Willowpelt's own father? Big nope! I would even take Patchpelt over that (but not really though)! I forgot adderfang was her father. Theres so many cats I can't keep them organized That's why I usually check the wiki lol. It's just a quick look at the character profiles to go find out closer family relations and then there's also the bigger family section where grandparents, cousins and more get listed. Adderfang is directly listed as Willowpelt's father there and it hasn't been retconned (unlike her mates Patchpelt and Tawnyspots who where previously said to be the fathers of Graystripe and Darkstripe). Considering that Whitestorm is the father of Willowpelt's third litter (Sorreltail, Rainwhisker and Sootfur), I've seen some people in the fandom just headcanon him to also be the father of her two other sons. Of course, this is confirmed to not be canon, since Sorreltail and her brothers are specifically stated to be the first litter of WhiteWillow in TPB and since Graystripe refers to Sorrel and her bros as his half-siblings directly during his SE (if I'm remembering things correctly) but oh well.
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Post by Hollyfall on Jan 1, 2023 12:13:49 GMT -5
I headcanon Thrushpelt as his dad with him and Willowpelt in a “friends who both wanted kits and decided to raise them together as friends” kinda relationship, and Darkstripe’s dad as a kittypet Willowpelt befriended as a young cat. I headcanon that she used to visit Twolegplace as a younger cat because she sometimes felt lonely/left out with her littermates because of how dedicated they were to their roles (or hoped-for future role in Redtail’s case), and visiting twolegplace and chatting with the kitty pets there eased the loneliness. The kittypet tom didn’t want to join TC to help raise his son, but he and Willowpelt remained on friendly terms. In my mind, Whitestorm was the only mate she truly fell in love with. the irony of Darkstripe's father being a kittypet makes this great
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Post by seantheskyhunter on Jan 2, 2023 16:40:03 GMT -5
Its Fritti from Tailchaser's song
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Jan 3, 2023 15:50:25 GMT -5
Officially, he doesn't have one. Initially, his father was Patchpelt but then the prequels confirmed both Patchpelt and Willowpelt were the children of Swiftbreeze and Adderfang from different litters and the family tree made Graystripe's father a mystery cat. So, it really could be almost anybody:- A rogue - A kittypet - Featherwhisker the med cat - A cat from a different clan - Runningwind (Unlikely since Willowpelt told him she was expecting Whitestorm's kits and he congratulated her, but who knows, he could just be an insanely supportive ex) - Longtail (I think he's too young but youth doesn't necessarily stop everybody since Scorchfur is right there) I'd just put my money on a random kittypet/rogueI think that thes are all viable, but personally I prefer one of: -Runningwind -Longtail (my personal favorite. This feels actually possible and even likely.) -Featherwhisker (but I feel like he is not the most likely. Knowing the Erins though, if this idea gets to them they'll just make it canon and that removes the joy) -Thrushpelt (however I do have a hc of him never getting over Bluestar, still loving her, blah blah) -Stonefur (again I have a hc that he was mates w/ Dawnbright but she died and he never took another mate.) -random kittypet or rogue, which seems like a popular idea
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Post by Mistybreeze on Jan 4, 2023 9:50:03 GMT -5
I definitely prefer Thrushpelt over Smallear. Thrush doesn't have any known descendants whereas Smallear has many. And the theory of ThrushxWillow arising out of a "surrogacy" situation is an interesting one. He was a great father to Bluestar's kits, though we don't know if it's because he wanted kits or his devotion to Bluestar.
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