raincloud33
victorian novel version of greencough is brain-fever
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Post by raincloud33 on Dec 25, 2022 20:28:00 GMT -5
who would it be and why? What would removing them change?
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 25, 2022 20:28:43 GMT -5
Dovewing or Twigbranch.
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Post by Violet6Echoes on Dec 25, 2022 20:48:36 GMT -5
Stormfur or Flametail. Neither of them were nessesary. All the other protagonists have something interesting about them or a tree interesting, I find the Flametail plot unnecessary and confusing and Stormtail was always kinda boring to me.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 25, 2022 21:40:57 GMT -5
Alderheart. I don’t have anything against him as a character, he’s just superfluous to the overall story of AVoS.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 21:58:19 GMT -5
I wanna see if the Clans plunge into chaos if Graywing or Firestar never existed. I would be really sad though if Gray Wing died. His deathwas literally the only death I cried at.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 26, 2022 4:32:57 GMT -5
Brambleclaw/star. Not because I hate him (quite the opposite in fact actually) but rather to save him from this mess of a series turning him into whatever that bs was in the second half of TNP and during SqH. He overall deserved to be written much better than what the writing team ultimately ended up doing to him in terms of some of his characterization in major instances after the first arc imo.
Also Squirrelflight. So she never becomes the writer's punching bag (via her mate Bramblestar). Because she in fact also deserves much better than that.
In terms of the changes this would bring to the series, Bramble's role would most likely be played by a different character in regards to his involvment with Tigerstar (his sister Tawny was right there and her ultimate rejection of her father in canon at the end of TNP would fit perfectly and go well with her still trusting him at first and then learning her lesson). Not sure just how far Tawnypelt would replace her brother further than that though (since TawnySquirrel would never happen in canon and one would have to be wary of the writers somehow managing to kind of ruin Tawny as well just like it happened with her brother).
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Dec 26, 2022 9:21:34 GMT -5
Stormfur because he is useless and kind of a hypocrite.
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when do we get more hairless warrior cats
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Post by flipwish on Dec 26, 2022 9:56:59 GMT -5
Nightheart. The change would be that ASC would be tolerable to read
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Post by NightFrostSun on Dec 26, 2022 11:12:08 GMT -5
Squirrelflight. She is the most irritating, selfish, entitled brat of a pov character to read. I also can’t stand Needletail, Sparkpelt, Rainflower, Finchlight, and Lightleap for the same reason but since they aren’t pov characters they don’t really fit the category.
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Post by 𝚆𝚊𝚟𝚎’𝚃𝚒𝚍𝚎 on Dec 26, 2022 11:15:30 GMT -5
I would probably remove Dove’wing. She’s just a pain in the behind-Ivypools my fav character and Dovewing it’s-just natural to hate her.
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Post by Katanaheart on Dec 26, 2022 12:20:46 GMT -5
Big toss-up between Dovewing and Twigbranch.
(Twigbranch since she didn’t really do much, sure, she brought SkyClan closer to the four Clans when they were already close by. So her only heavy plot relevant prior to SkyClan rejoining the others is kinda pointless. Plus she was an extra ThunderClan pov when we already had Alderheart. And while I did consider throwing out Alderheart since he doesn’t do a whole lot after TAQ, that book’s existence is important to set up the plot and find the kits to begin with, so can’t really get rid of him. (I imagine his personality and interactions with ShadowClan, Needletail, his father, and Clanmates would be drastically different once Violetkit is taken to ShadowClan since there is only one kit now that’s important.) Perhaps SkyClan is also found much later in the series or is in actual danger this time around? (Or even The Kin finding them would be interesting with Violetpaw also getting to meet her birth Clan via them also being prisoners?) It would make Darktail’s reign last much longer compared to dying off in book three or four.
As for Dovewing, getting rid of her would make Ivypool the third since she’s the only other cat around at the time. I can potentially see her powers forming later in the series or she just fills in Dovewing’s role in the TFA. (Or we have to deal with a drought plot for a book or two since beavers are going to be building dams? Perhaps an omen could be sent instead to kickstart that plot since I enjoy the idea of Ivypaw awakening to her powers later while Lionblaze and Jayfeather panic in the background over this situation.)
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Dec 26, 2022 14:45:57 GMT -5
dovewing or squirrelflight.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Dec 27, 2022 18:30:31 GMT -5
dovewing
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Post by Moonblazer on Dec 27, 2022 22:39:13 GMT -5
Tigerheart, dear god, I wish he never existed
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Post by Snowfire on Dec 28, 2022 1:49:54 GMT -5
MS: Nightheart is quite frustrating to read about, so I would go with him. The second would be those extra POVs like Flametail, or at least give them relevance to the story and make it enjoyable. SE: Stick, I don't think his chapters in SkC's Destiny have much relevance and it's just him being mad about who his daughter is dating. This SE should mainly have Leafstar as the focus and if I had to choose the 2nd POV, I would probably go with Harley, although it wouldn't be necessary I think his relationship with Red is interesting and would show the issues with Stick and maybe build up to Harley doubting Dodge as a leader, so this would build up to his moment in HJ. Onestar comes in second. Novella: Spottedleaf, has its reasons.
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raincloud33
victorian novel version of greencough is brain-fever
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Post by raincloud33 on Dec 28, 2022 14:17:06 GMT -5
I never put mine, but I don't really have much of an opinion. Probably Ivypool? I just am not very fond of Ivypool and one less character going to train in the dark forest, the better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 14:32:19 GMT -5
Shadowsight.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Dec 28, 2022 14:41:54 GMT -5
Twigbranch & Dovewing. Twig’s were a snoozefest. And Dovewing’s are are just too overly emotional, unbearable….. and there’s the whole DovexTiger Romance nightmare that’s pure cringe.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Dec 30, 2022 0:49:21 GMT -5
Twigbranch because her name is and had always been lame.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 30, 2022 2:18:02 GMT -5
Dovewing or Squirrelflight tbh. But I'm leaning on Squirrelflight because at least Dovewing could be rewritten.
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Post by Tawnyfire on Dec 30, 2022 3:47:07 GMT -5
i've only read up to like half of OotS, but i think i would change Dovewing and/or Lionblaze cause both of their PoV's were (as far as i remember) lacking compared to other PoV's in the series.
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Post by Bristleflight-bristlefrost! on Dec 31, 2022 9:57:52 GMT -5
Bramblestar and shadowsight
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jan 2, 2023 6:12:51 GMT -5
Dovewing. Don't get me wrong, I really love her character, but if I had control of the series I'd make her a background character. Hollyleaf not being part of the three was a mediocre twist. It overcomplicated stuff that would've still been good without the extra details. And when I think of "the three" my mind immediately shifts to Jay, Lion and Holly. They were a good trio, and I just don't like the trio of Jay, Lion and Dove.
Triplets being in a prophecy is a nice trope, taking one out and throwing a random distant-ish relative just made it strange and kind of irritating. Slotting in a relative just because it matches the words of the prophecy doesn't mean it fits. Hollyleaf would've been better off as the third cat. Don't even get me started on Firestar being part of that prophecy for whatever reason.
Also, Dovewing being a background character means that the strange BumbleTigerDove love triangle isn't on the forefront and I won't have to read about it.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jan 3, 2023 11:08:36 GMT -5
I guess Squirrelflight since she’s my least favorite protag.
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