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Post by cygna on Dec 12, 2022 22:44:16 GMT -5
Feathertail & Crowfeather were both born in arc 1, although Crowkit isn't mentioned by name.
Yes, she is older than him but not by as much as people make it out to be, she was a young warrior and he was an older apprentice. I think they have an age gap similar to Whitewing & Birchfall's and they're not considered creepy.
Brambleclaw was a full grown warrior a while before Squirrelflight was born, and he started gaining interest in her when she was an apprentice.
Why is this never called out by the fandom even though it's absolutely gross?
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Dec 12, 2022 22:56:28 GMT -5
now a days more people r realizing bramble x squirrel is as creepy as feather x crow. at least the way i see it. why r all of squirrel's canon options (not fandom ships) all much older than her? brambleclaw and stormfur r the same age and r way older than her, then u have ashfur who is older than all of them, making him the creepiest.
feathertail is not only older physically older than crowfeather, but she was also more mentally and emotionally mature, and level headed. she has experienced more in life and more trauma than him as well. she was way too mature for him in all senses of the word. he relied on her so much that once she died, he lost all sense of self and thats the most sad and toxic thing of the entire relationship in my opinion. to rely on someone u like that much at such a young age...that is damaging. no wonder crowfeather was messed up for most of his life.
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Post by cloudpaw on Dec 12, 2022 23:44:59 GMT -5
Bramble and squirrel both behaved some kindof childish. Bramble does notgi zo Firestar or some older Warrior with his dream but isn't able to shut his mouth when Squirrel asks him. Firestar treated both badly together as well. So for me that never seemed to be strange at the beginning. But at the beginning the two together were hillarious
With crow and fethertail it's something else. First you don't know them as well as Bramblr and sรคquirrel, than Crow behaves much like a 14-year old boy whil Feather is very calm.
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Post by ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on Dec 13, 2022 4:17:13 GMT -5
The age gap between BrambleSquirrel is being called out and seen as problematic (among more things with those two) these days though. But moreso in other parts of the fandom and not really much on here.
The problem with FeatherCrow, in my opinion, is that while their age gap was seemingly not as big, Feathertail was much more emotionally mature than Crowpaw and seeing how his character became so bitter after her death to the point that he no longer wanted to live without her, it also shows that he had been extremely attached to her. Which is not exactly a healthy mindset or relationship dynamic to have.
I personally hate both BrambleSquirrel and FeatherCrow as pairings. Never shipped them and never will. I'm more of a BrambleFeather and SquirrelCrow shipper myself anyways.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Dec 13, 2022 10:19:57 GMT -5
While Iโm personally not bothered by the age gaps. For the sake of the debate. The age between Crowfeather and Feathertail is only, what, 2 or 3 moons less than BrambleSquirrel?. Bramblestar and Feathertail are born in the same book, so theyโre really close in age. And both Squirrelflight and Crowfeather are kits in Ravenpawโs Manga, and are about the same size in the illustrations if that means anything. And I know the timelines were a little funky and inconsistent back then, especially regarding the gap between TDH & Midnight. From my deduction the age gap difference between these 2 ships isnโt very significant. At least not enough to make one acceptable and the other problematic if your someone that has an issue with age gaps in the series in general.
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Post by โ
Maplefrostโ
on Dec 13, 2022 15:46:01 GMT -5
I've never seen people see FeatherCrow as creepy...nor BrambleSquirrel. I think it's more like pairings such as DustFern which are questionable because of intention and behavior.
Crowfeather was already close to his warriorship before he even left to go on the journey, he was so sheltered and isolated from the rest of his clan that the journey actually did him good. Feathertail helped him come out of his shell, expand his horizons, and got others to understand the better side of him. And the two of them worked well because of it. But they never officially got together because of Feathertail's premature death. In the long run, they would have had the healthiest relationship as well.
On the other hand Bramble and Squirrel were arguing from the get go. Squirrel was barely an apprentice, and while Crowfeather's was long overdue by the time he got his, Squirrel's was "right on time". They were arguing before they got together, there's also her wishy washy relationship she was constantly having with Ashfur too. And now in the long run, they just obviously didn't work out either.
Dustpelt and Ferncloud is a bit more strange because of how eager Dustpelt was to try and be Ferncloud's mentor after Darkstripe was exiled. Even though he already had his own apprentice, and his feelings for Ferncloud were so obvious that even Firestar noticed. I find that uncomfortable.
There's also Dovewing and Tigerheart, although the ages aren't that far apart, I believe, Tigerheart did still take advantage of Dovepaw while she was still an apprentice. And treated their relationships like a joke for the longest time too, not taking it seriously at all, and willing to use Dove for the sake of his own clan. Going as far as kidnapping her sister and using her as exchange bait for herbs. That's weird and uncomfortable. There's other things down the line that's also under that notion too but when they're warriors.
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Dec 13, 2022 22:10:57 GMT -5
While Iโm personally not bothered by the age gaps. For the sake of the debate. The age between Crowfeather and Feathertail is only, what, 2 or 3 moons less than BrambleSquirrel?. Bramblestar and Feathertail are born in the same book, so theyโre really close in age. And both Squirrelflight and Crowfeather are kits in Ravenpawโs Manga, and are about the same size in the illustrations if that means anything. And I know the timelines were a little funky and inconsistent back then, especially regarding the gap between TDH & Midnight. From my deduction the age gap difference between these 2 ships isnโt very significant. At least not enough to make one acceptable and the other problematic if your someone that has an issue with age gaps in the series in general. feathertail is 15 months older than crowfeather. brambleclaw is 24 months/2 years older than squirrelflight (and leafpool) crowfeather is 6 months older than leafpool (and squirrelflight) crowfeather should have been a warrior at the beginning of TNP going by the wiki's timeline chart that im using to get these numbers. it's kinda weird. |
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Post by ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ค๐ฌ๐จ๐ฅ on Dec 18, 2022 6:10:35 GMT -5
Not to mention that Crowpaw was supposed to be made an warrior but he ran away for the journey.
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Post by daurianwind on Dec 18, 2022 6:28:20 GMT -5
Why it can be seen as creepy - itโs pure platonic love between young warrior and near-to-become-warrior apprentice, all by their own will and choice.
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