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Post by cygna on Dec 2, 2022 11:15:19 GMT -5
I thought LionCinder’s first litter was understandable. Hollyleaf, Ferncloud, & Sorreltail all died heros and totally deserved that honor.
Leafpool was technically the first legacy name and I was fine with it because it wasn’t very common back then.
I thought Needleclaw and Rootspring being named after cats who sacrificed themselves for their parents was understandable and fine but boring.
Spotfur naming her kits after Stemleaf & Bristlefrost made sense but I have no idea why she also named one after Graystripe.
Birchkit and Rowankit was just completely unnecessary.
Tigerheartstar being named after Tigerstar was so unnecessary and very stupid.
Spireclaw being named in honor of Spiresight was fine but Berryheart and Sparrowtail barely knew him so it felt kinda off.
Sparkpelt and especially Bramblestar naming Flampaw/Nightheart after Firestar was dumb.
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Post by angyfrog on Dec 2, 2022 12:05:52 GMT -5
Admittingly I do think some situations are appropriate when it comes to legacy names, for example, Sorreltail naming one of her kits after Cinderpelt who died trying to protect them...
Leafpool I'm alright with since you can argue multiple cats were in mind for her name Leafstar/Spottedleaf Needleclaw I'm okayish with however Rootspring I don't get, it since to my knowledge or lack thereof Root appears saying "Your mom's bad lol" then dips Hollytuft I can somewhat get behind, not really Sorrelstripe/Fernsong, Sorrel because it's a weird back-to-back naming legacy case, and Fernsong because unless Lion/Cinder did have a connection with Ferncloud it just seems like a weird case of "Oh someone we vaguely knew died, let's name one of our kids them and call it that" Stem/Bristle I'm okayish with, but the same reasoning as Fernsong above with Gray Tigertwo I'm definitely not a fan of, esp with the comparison to him and his literal mass murderer Grandpa, seriously I get wanting to reclaim a name but it's like...You can't just do that and then keep comparing him to his mass murderer Grandpa!! Very icky no good Birch/Rowan just seems unnecessary Spireclaw also seems unnecessary since we also have Shadowsight
And it's okay Sparkpelt didn't name Nightheart/Flamepaw after Firestar, it's his eyes duh /j seriously why give your grandson his great grandpa's name when he literally shows no qualities of Firestar to be given the -heart suffix, why not Flameeyes or Flametongue, literally anything to give him his own distinctive character rather than forcing the photo perfect character onto him
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Dec 2, 2022 12:55:13 GMT -5
Angyfrog Said
Tree and root actually did end up developing a pretty close bond in Tree’s novella, albeit how brief of a timespan they unfortunately knew eachother. And he was definitely shown to have qualities of a good father, and certainly someone worth honoring.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Dec 2, 2022 13:21:24 GMT -5
Hollytuft I can somewhat get behind, not really Sorrelstripe/Fernsong, Sorrel because it's a weird back-to-back naming legacy case, and Fernsong because unless Lion/Cinder did have a connection with Ferncloud it just seems like a weird case of "Oh someone we vaguely knew died, let's name one of our kids them and call it that" I actually like all three of these because I feel like it obviously makes sense for Hollyleaf, Sorreltail was Cinderheart’s mom so that’s fair, and Ferncloud was a sort of second (or third) mom to Lionblaze as a kit, if I recall correctly, as Squirrelflight didn’t nurse them and didn’t like spending too much time in the nursery. Of course after The Sight I don’t think this is ever mentioned or relevant, but I wish it was and I like to think that’s why Fernsong is named after Ferncloud. Honestly, I don’t really mind legacy names at all though, which seems to be somewhat of an unpopular opinion these days.
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Post by kitters on Dec 2, 2022 16:01:28 GMT -5
I just want new prefixes. Idc about legacy names at all anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2022 15:26:01 GMT -5
Everybody is named after Firestar now.
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Post by Hollyfall on Dec 3, 2022 15:38:42 GMT -5
Everybody is named after Firestar now. There's only two?
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Post by Hollyfall on Dec 3, 2022 15:42:43 GMT -5
Maybe an unpopular opinion? But I'm fine with legacy naming. It's a nice (albeit minor) way to show bonds and friendships. Just going off the ones mentioned here there aren't that many cats named after another, and they at least have logical reasoning behind them as opposed to just naming cats after others for the sake of it.
The Clans could absolutely stand to use more unique names like Glade, Meadow, Blue, or whatever else though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2022 15:53:45 GMT -5
I think there were at least four, Flametail, Flame/Nightheart, Firefern, and I think Sparkpelt was going to be named Sparkfire but it didn't happen sadly. But i think that doesn't count. So yeah, only three.
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Post by Hollyfall on Dec 3, 2022 16:03:21 GMT -5
I think there were at least four, Flametail, Flame/Nightheart, Firefern, and I think Sparkpelt was going to be named Sparkfire but it didn't happen sadly. But i think that doesn't count. So yeah, only three. Flametail wasn't named after Firestar? Neither Tawnypelt or Rowanclaw had much to do with him. By that logic then every cat who's name can be related to "fire" may as well be named after Firestar. You could maybe reason Sparkpelt, but the only ones we know for sure are Firefern and Nightheart because they're explicitly stated.
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Post by Candlekit on Dec 3, 2022 18:44:30 GMT -5
I totally agree with everything, and just have to say that Nightheart was right! Why would he be named after a cat that is dead, and he doesn't even know Firestar? (1) That's just unfair to him because every warrior, (maybe), wants their name to be special, representing themselves! Not a dead character. (2) I also just think that Bramblestar is very dumb to not change his grand-son's name completely... smh
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Post by sylveon on Dec 4, 2022 4:45:20 GMT -5
*this came out longer than I intended, sorry about the rambles
Legacy names started off cool, and Leafpool is the first main-series canon one I can think of (Although I really do prefer her being named after Leafstar instead of Spottedleaf, I wiiiish we got a proper introduction between leafstar and leafpool)
Leaf- had also not been used as a prefix at all at that point iirc. Cinderheart being named after Cinderpelt made sense, especially for the whole 'reincarnation' plot they tried to go with. I think this is the first legacy name we actually got confirmed as legacy, since Leafpool wasn't officially canonized until FQ.
I feel like legacy names wouldn't be such an issue if it wasn't for cats being so close together in time. I could forgive Tigerheart's name since Tawny wanted to reclaim it, but others are excessive.
Sorrel-, Holly- and Fern- were pretty close to their namesakes, but I feel like it made some sense for them to be named that after a historic battle, especially out of the ThunderClan cats that died they had the most relation to Lion/cinder (Ferncloud nursed Lionblaze, don't forget, and he mentally acknowledged her as feeling like a mother to him)
after this is when we go insane. I feel like they feel like they're running out of good Prefixes for some reason, and decide to use 'fan favorites' or recent characters instead. If they want to reuse prefixes they should use ones we haven't seen in quite some time (Blue-, Goose-, Thistle-, Stag-, etc)
There's just so many good names they could go with but for some reason think legacy naming is the way to go. I hope after Nightheart's whole dobackle it becomes uncommon again and kits are given their own deserved names.
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Post by sylveon on Dec 4, 2022 4:48:15 GMT -5
One last thing that just popped into my head looking at the allegiances, Pouncestep was actually a good opportunity to do a memorial name to tie it into Shadowsight's and Lightleap's themes. They could have easily have named her 'Dawn-' in honor of Dawnpelt, and a new "dawn" to Tiger's and Dove's relationship.
Don't get me wrong I love pouncesteps name but it always felt awkward, like the third wheel.
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Post by Snowfire on Dec 4, 2022 5:13:03 GMT -5
One last thing that just popped into my head looking at the allegiances, Pouncestep was actually a good opportunity to do a memorial name to tie it into Shadowsight's and Lightleap's themes. They could have easily have named her 'Dawn-' in honor of Dawnpelt, and a new "dawn" to Tiger's and Dove's relationship. Don't get me wrong I love pouncesteps name but it always felt awkward, like the third wheel. The sound of Dawnstep sounds really nice, it’s like as if she’s very optimistic and/or has leadership qualities.
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Dec 5, 2022 15:09:43 GMT -5
Don't mind me, just here to say that anyone who wants to name their kid after Ashfur needs to name them Amoguskit so they will be correctly identify with the incel imposter and not the honorable WindClan deputy
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Dec 5, 2022 15:53:42 GMT -5
Don't mind me, just here to say that anyone who wants to name their kid after Ashfur needs to name them Amoguskit so they will be correctly identify with the incel imposter and not the honorable WindClan deputy Ashfur (ShC) is crying in a corner rn. You made him sad smh./j But no one even remembers him tbh. Ashfur (TC) took care of that with his infamous rise to incel status.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Dec 5, 2022 18:16:53 GMT -5
I feel like legacy names wouldn't be such an issue if it wasn't for cats being so close together in time. This. And the issue is compounded by only repeating prefixes. Why couldn't Spotfur's kits have been named Frostkit, Leafkit, and Stripekit instead? Or better yet, just honor Bristle&Stem and give Graykit a different name entirely. I understand this isn't always possible, but it'd be nice for an occasional switch up. It just feels lazy at this point, like they couldn't be bothered to come up with unique names. They don't have to constantly add new prefixes either, especially with how questionable the new ones have been. How have we gotten names like Flipclaw and Snaptooth while we have yet to see a Thymekit or Chervilkit? And if they never added any new prefixes, they'd still have a wide pool to choose from.
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Post by Bristleflight on Dec 5, 2022 18:37:50 GMT -5
For bristlekit there have only been two other cats named bristle before bristlebark and bristlefrost so bristle is a pretty unique prefex
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