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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 15, 2022 21:24:31 GMT -5
wanted to see peoples opinion on this. i think we should at least have 1 arc without any romance AT ALL and see how it turns out. i am very curious to see how the writers/editors deal with that bc it feels like they rely and depend on that to bring "drama" up too much in recent arcs/books.
what do u think?
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Post by Jaysnow on Nov 15, 2022 21:26:43 GMT -5
"other response". The Erins seem to be incapable of writing a single arc without a romance subplot, and it's unfortunate because of the message they're sending to kids "something something you need a partner to be happy".
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Post by angyfrog on Nov 15, 2022 22:15:21 GMT -5
If only, seriously romance isn't at all written well in Warriors but for whatever reason, it continues to be one of if not the most prioritized in each arc, almost like a checklist, which is just irritating because it takes away so much from characters esp protags
What bugs me the absolute most is when a character's well character revolves around their romance, yes I understand Leafpool you loved Crowfeather and you want to get back with him but don't because blahblah rules please shut up, Dovewing you've seen how this man rolls but you continue to be with him anyway despite him literally taking your sister as a hostage and destroying your clan's herb storage, Rootspring how and why did you fall in love with someone who just showed you decency for not letting you drown
Edit: I should mention take this with a grain of salt, haven't read the books with these characters so it's a mix of other people opinions/wiki
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 15, 2022 22:30:58 GMT -5
If only, seriously romance isn't at all written well in Warriors but for whatever reason, it continues to be one of if not the most prioritized in each arc, almost like a checklist, which is just irritating because it takes away so much from characters esp protags What bugs me the absolute most is when a character's well character revolves around their romance, yes I understand Leafpool you loved Crowfeather and you want to get back with him but don't because blahblah rules please shut up, Dovewing you've seen how this man rolls but you continue to be with him anyway despite him literally taking your sister as a hostage and destroying your clan's herb storage, Rootspring how and why did you fall in love with someone who just showed you decency for not letting you drown Edit: I should mention take this with a grain of salt, haven't read the books with these characters so it's a mix of other people opinions/wiki what u said about rootspring had me laughing so i made a meme i definately think rootspring got ruined bc of the romance...he was much cooler as rootpaw when he didnt have juvenille crush thoughts, that is |
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Post by angyfrog on Nov 15, 2022 22:35:11 GMT -5
If only, seriously romance isn't at all written well in Warriors but for whatever reason, it continues to be one of if not the most prioritized in each arc, almost like a checklist, which is just irritating because it takes away so much from characters esp protags What bugs me the absolute most is when a character's well character revolves around their romance, yes I understand Leafpool you loved Crowfeather and you want to get back with him but don't because blahblah rules please shut up, Dovewing you've seen how this man rolls but you continue to be with him anyway despite him literally taking your sister as a hostage and destroying your clan's herb storage, Rootspring how and why did you fall in love with someone who just showed you decency for not letting you drown Edit: I should mention take this with a grain of salt, haven't read the books with these characters so it's a mix of other people opinions/wiki what u said about rootspring had me laughing so i made a meme i definately think rootspring got ruined bc of the romance...he was much cooler as rootpaw when he didnt have juvenille crush thoughts, that is Remember kids, if you're having a bad time and someone is even remotely kind to you, you may as well be married at that point Seriously though I do find it funny how Rootpaw got saved only to get an extreme kiddy crush on Bristlefrost, only for whatever reason he never gets over it |
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 15, 2022 22:38:11 GMT -5
angyfrog this series has a bad reputation for how it handles "first love" (where they want to claim "first love never dies" but then its just over some girl they knew for a few days/weeks lol this is why im always keen for characters to move on most of the time). firestar moved on from spottedleaf, but in the end, whoever wrote TLH pushed that spottedleaf had to die again bc "firestar would have a hard time choosing sandstorm over her once in starclan" which we all know is Bullcr*p. same with graystripe. he moved on from silverstream, but once he died, it was implied silverstream was now the one who didnt "move on" bc she acted ooc and pissy seeing them together in starclan or whatever.
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Post by angyfrog on Nov 15, 2022 22:43:11 GMT -5
angyfrog this series has a bad reputation for how it handles "first love" (where they want to claim "first love never dies" but then its just over some girl they knew for a few days/weeks lol this is why im always keen for characters to move on most of the time). firestar moved on from spottedleaf, but in the end, whoever wrote TLH pushed that spottedleaf had to die again bc "firestar would have a hard time choosing sandstorm over her once in starclan" which we all know is Bullcr*p. same with graystripe. he moved on from silverstream, but once he died, it was implied silverstream was now the one who didnt "move on" bc she acted ooc and pissy seeing them together in starclan or whatever. It's so so silly overall, imagine a character picking their highschool crush over their lifelong partner who they raised a family with |
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 15, 2022 22:43:36 GMT -5
I would hope so but idk if the writers know how to do that yet, a lot of the plot is either stopped or is the romance. /lh
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Nov 16, 2022 0:22:03 GMT -5
Probability of there being an arc without romance is equatable to the oceans drying up…. Which is extremely unlikely lol. Honestly wouldn’t bother me if they actually had a reputation for writing quality romances. If they wrote more like CrookedxWillow or FirexSand. Maybe I’d actually enjoy them. And it doesn’t bother me that romance is a central focus to some degree. And expecting them to have zero conflict would be unrealistic. However, nowadays their either packed with so much hyper exaggerated drama that makes them not endearing to read about, and oftentimes insufferable. Or so poorly written and forgettable, that I frankly forget their a couple regularly.
Last romance I honestly cared for was DovexBumble….. and Gray x Turtle to some extent. Truly sad that the quality is so low for them. Since I do quite enjoy a good romance story.
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Post by Hollyfall on Nov 16, 2022 0:30:20 GMT -5
i wish LMAO
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Nov 16, 2022 1:51:39 GMT -5
iirc, POT didn't really have one. But I think that's like, the only arc that didn't
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 16, 2022 1:57:49 GMT -5
iirc, POT didn't really have one. But I think that's like, the only arc that didn't i guess there is the leftovers of squirrel x ash, and then lion x heather, and maybe jay x half? i dont remember PO3 in specifics though. |
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Nov 16, 2022 2:07:26 GMT -5
I was mildly hopeful for Frostpaw and then she went and hallucinated herself having babies with Streamtail and naming one of them after her mother. I don't expect her celibacy to last.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 16, 2022 5:07:05 GMT -5
I would very much hope so but there is no way that a Warriors arc will never not have overall badly written romance drama in it.
For ASC specifically though, I'm still convinced that NightSun is not "endgame" so to speak and they won't be together by the end of the last book.
While my wish for Frostpaw is that she isn't going to pursue any serious romantic feelings outside of having that brief crush on Splashtail hopefully leading nowhere. Shadowsight, yet another medicine cat protagonist from the previous arc, didn't even have any thoughts on or a love interest by the end of his arc. Probably because he was too busy getting written as Ashfur's punching bag but my point still stands that Frostpaw doesn't need one either. We already had the "medicine cat main series PoV falls in love" trope with Leafpool (Crowfeather) and Jayfeather (Half Moon). Alderheart having his unnecessary plotline with Velvet can count as well. And even though I'm still waiting and kind of interested to see a "medicine cat x warrior/deputy/leader from their own Clan" romance storyline which does not suck (flashback to the big yikes that was Raggedstar x Yellowfang), something tells me that Splashtail x Frostpaw would not be that pairing to make a difference, in my opinion. Sorry about the small SplashFrost (cool ship name though) rant there. Whoops.
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