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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 14:01:14 GMT -5
I have a theory about Frostpaw, don't worry this doesn't contain any spoilers from the new series except Frostpaw's appearance. Okay so my theory is what if the reason why Frostpaw is grey and has blue-green eyes just like Bristlefrost is because it's like a Cinderpelt/Cinderheart situation and Frostpaw is Bristlefrost? And that's also why her prefix is the same as Bristleforst's suffix. I know it sounds weird but stranger things have happened in this series.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Oct 21, 2022 14:02:57 GMT -5
i truly hope not! not only bc i hate bristlefrost, but bc bristlefrost should stay double dead to keep the impact from the previous arc.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Oct 21, 2022 14:03:51 GMT -5
The only problem with that reincarnation/rebirth theory, is the fact that Frostpaw was born at the start of TBC in Lost Stars, when Bristlefrost was still very much alive.
Meanwhile with the Cinderpelt/Cinderheart situation, Cinderpelt died in the same TNP book Cinderheart was born in, which was at the end of Twilight.
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Post by Bristleflight-bristlefrost! on Oct 21, 2022 14:19:00 GMT -5
I have a theory about Frostpaw, don't worry this doesn't contain any spoilers from the new series except Frostpaw's appearance. Okay so my theory is what if the reason why Frostpaw is grey and has blue-green eyes just like Bristlefrost is because it's like a Cinderpelt/Cinderheart situation and Frostpaw is Bristlefrost? And that's also why her prefix is the same as Bristleforst's suffix. I know it sounds weird but stranger things have happened in this series. As much as I love bristlefrost it would ruin her ending to bring her back. Let her have more development in prequels were people will hopefully live her not in the main series were even people like me who's favorite cat is her it would be bad plot.
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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 14:34:39 GMT -5
ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ Bristleflight-bristlefrost!That's true it would be a plot move and take away from the impact that her death had BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ I was thinking she could have possessed her after she died, but I forgot she double died
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Oct 21, 2022 14:56:28 GMT -5
BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ I was thinking she could have possessed her after she died, but I forgot she double died But then why would have Frostpaw been named after Bristlefrost? Why would her parents name her after some random (at the time before she died twice) ThunderClan warrior as you suggested? Why would Frostpaw have a similar pelt/eye color as Bristlefrost already according to your previously presented theory before getting possessed by her? Your original theory stated that Frostpaw was named after Bristlefrost and had her pelt/eye color because she is possessed by her/is Bristlefrost. But how can that be when Frostpaw was born before Bristlefrost even double died?
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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 15:10:56 GMT -5
BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ I was thinking she could have possessed her after she died, but I forgot she double died But then why would have Frostpaw been named after Bristlefrost? Why would her parents name her after some random (at the time before she died twice) ThunderClan warrior as you suggested? Why would Frostpaw have a similar pelt/eye color as Bristlefrost already according to your previously presented theory before getting possessed by her? Your original theory stated that Frostpaw was named after Bristlefrost and had her pelt/eye color because she is possessed by her/is Bristlefrost. But how can that be when Frostpaw was born before Bristlefrost even double died? I honestly didn't put that much thought into it
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Oct 21, 2022 15:17:08 GMT -5
But then why would have Frostpaw been named after Bristlefrost? Why would her parents name her after some random (at the time before she died twice) ThunderClan warrior as you suggested? Why would Frostpaw have a similar pelt/eye color as Bristlefrost already according to your previously presented theory before getting possessed by her? Your original theory stated that Frostpaw was named after Bristlefrost and had her pelt/eye color because she is possessed by her/is Bristlefrost. But how can that be when Frostpaw was born before Bristlefrost even double died? I honestly didn't put that much thought into it I hate debating Don't worry, this will not turn into a debate. I'm sorry if I came off as rude as that is certainly not my intention. My asking of these questions was because the theory just did not make that much sense to me and to try and understand your reasoning better. That's all.
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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 15:20:59 GMT -5
I honestly didn't put that much thought into it I hate debating Don't worry, this will not turn into a debate. I'm sorry if I came off as rude as that is certainly not my intention. My asking of these questions was because the theory just did not make that much sense to me and to try and understand your reasoning better. That's all. It's all good, I kind of figured that, which is why I deleted the I hate debating part, but I guess you saw that before I had the chance to It was honestly a joke theory to take a dig at how Frostpaw looks exactly the same as Bristlefrost like they couldn't have given her orange eyes or something? And then while I was making the theory I thought of how their names are similar lol
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Oct 21, 2022 15:34:26 GMT -5
Don't worry, this will not turn into a debate. I'm sorry if I came off as rude as that is certainly not my intention. My asking of these questions was because the theory just did not make that much sense to me and to try and understand your reasoning better. That's all. It's all good, I kind of figured that, which is why I deleted the I hate debating part, but I guess you saw that before I had the chance to It was honestly a joke theory to take a dig at how Frostpaw looks exactly the same as Bristlefrost like they couldn't have given her orange eyes or something? And then while I was making the theory I thought of how their names are similar lol They could have made Frostpaw a white and gray cat, just something other than a solid cat. We have had four relevant solid gray cats in the past four arcs.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Oct 21, 2022 15:49:12 GMT -5
Don't worry, this will not turn into a debate. I'm sorry if I came off as rude as that is certainly not my intention. My asking of these questions was because the theory just did not make that much sense to me and to try and understand your reasoning better. That's all. It's all good, I kind of figured that, which is why I deleted the I hate debating part, but I guess you saw that before I had the chance to It was honestly a joke theory to take a dig at how Frostpaw looks exactly the same as Bristlefrost like they couldn't have given her orange eyes or something? And then while I was making the theory I thought of how their names are similar lol Ah, I see. Yeah, Frostpaw does look similar to Bristlefrost but not exactly the same. Except that we might have another eye color debate with her (like with Dovewing) in the fandom soon since she is no longer said to have blue-green eyes (like Bristlefrost) but instead gets stated to now just have blue eyes on the official website only to then being shown with green eyes on the Shadow cover. So who knows at this point lol. As for her pelt color, at least she has some darker parts of gray instead being solid grey like first assumed. Although this has once again merely been showcased on the official website again. So there's that, I guess. Here's both Bristlefrost's and Frostpaw's profiles (from the website) and descriptions (from the wiki based on the covers and the book appearances) for comparison: Bristlefrost is a thick-furred pale gray she-cat with blue-green eyes, neat ears, and long whiskers. Frostpaw is a light gray she-cat with darker parts, ears and green eyes. As for their names, Bristlefrost is not the first cat to carry the -frost suffix (that cat was Hawkfrost, at least in terms of the timeline order as to how the books were published). So Frostpaw having that as her a prefix doesn't need to have anything to do with her based on that. In fact, there is even a fandom joke that Bristlefrost was named after Hawkfrost just because she has the same suffix as him (despite Poppyfrost, Crowfrost and Applefrost also being right there). But then again, that's why it's considered a joke, after all lol. If anything, Frostpaw's appearance reminds me more of Dovewing than Bristlefrost. Especially in regards to the Shadow cover.
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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 15:52:16 GMT -5
It's all good, I kind of figured that, which is why I deleted the I hate debating part, but I guess you saw that before I had the chance to It was honestly a joke theory to take a dig at how Frostpaw looks exactly the same as Bristlefrost like they couldn't have given her orange eyes or something? And then while I was making the theory I thought of how their names are similar lol They could have made Frostpaw a white and gray cat, just something other than a solid cat. We have had four relevant solid gray cats in the past four arcs. Right? That's the main reason why I'm so bothered by this, especially when there's so many other coat colors to choose from, I guess it makes it easier to design to covers or something but idk I like the design that makes her a blue point, but she's not like that in canon unfortunately Colorpoint cats can happen in the wild too I've seen a lot of foster cats and cats who were TNR'd who were colorpoints Grey and white would have been cool too, I wish they would have made Bristlefrost grey and white, like you have Ivypool who is white with tabby patches, and all her kits have no white, she has two solid grey kits and one brown tabby
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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 15:54:01 GMT -5
BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱThis is really cool, I really like Frostpaw's design here They do look similar but also have a lot of differences I still wish there could have been more of a striking difference like maybe make Mistpaw greyish-brown and had her be the protag
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Oct 21, 2022 15:57:41 GMT -5
BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ This is really cool, I really like Frostpaw's design here They do look similar but also have a lot of differences I still wish there could have been more of a striking difference like maybe make Mistpaw greyish-brown and had her be the protag Mistpaw is actually a tortoiseshell and white tabby she-cat in canon so having her as the protagonist instead would have certainly made for a more unique choice in terms of character design. But I like Frostpaw regardless of her being yet another grey protagonist.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Oct 21, 2022 15:59:15 GMT -5
They could have made Frostpaw a white and gray cat, just something other than a solid cat. We have had four relevant solid gray cats in the past four arcs. Right? That's the main reason why I'm so bothered by this, especially when there's so many other coat colors to choose from, I guess it makes it easier to design to covers or something but idk I like the design that makes her a blue point, but she's not like that in canon unfortunately Colorpoint cats can happen in the wild too I've seen a lot of foster cats and cats who were TNR'd who were colorpoints Grey and white would have been cool too, I wish they would have made Bristlefrost grey and white, like you have Ivypool who is white with tabby patches, and all her kits have no white, she has two solid grey kits and one brown tabby Bristlefrost should have looked similar to Ivypool. White with tabby patches. Frostpaw would look adorable as a silver tabby and white or a dilute calico. Or even a blue point! Nope, just gray.
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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 16:22:02 GMT -5
BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱShe is? That's cool! I like Frostpaw too at least from what I've seen of her so far, I do feel like I can't really judge her yet I'm not just coming at Frostpaw either, I remember awhile back I said I wished Flickerkit had lived over Nightheart because Flicker is a way more unique prefix than Flame and having a tortoiseshell protagonist, especially a tortoiseshell tom, would have been cool, but Nightheart being the protagonist makes sense for his storyline But the prefix being Flicker just being lost like that it kind of hurts my soul lol ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁I actually thought Bristlefrost should have been a dilute calico since Fernsong is cream or yellow but I see yellow as cream so dilute orange Frostpaw being a dilute calico would be awesome too though or a colorpoint dilute calico
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Oct 21, 2022 16:40:07 GMT -5
Bristlefrost being a dilute calico would be cute! You have a good point there.
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Post by Chicken on Oct 21, 2022 18:07:54 GMT -5
Bristlefrost being a dilute calico would be cute! You have a good point there. Thank you!
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Post by maqle on Oct 21, 2022 20:47:23 GMT -5
I really hope that's not the case. There was too much spirit stuff in the last arc, and I'd rather this arc be more about inside the clan stuff (also, i'm like 85% sure Frost was born while Bris was still alive, so i'm not entirely sure how a ''reincarnation" would work).
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