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Post by angyfrog on Oct 17, 2022 23:49:12 GMT -5
this keeps getting worse blazefire and lightleap officially get together HAHAHAHA perfect, love that, no big surprise, I can't wait for Sunbeam to spend multiple chapters sulking Blazefire and then for suddenly Nightheart to appear as a phoenix out of ashes, where Sunbeam takes his paw-hand, they embrace and fly off into the sunset
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Post by Fernflower on Oct 17, 2022 23:49:22 GMT -5
Okay I finally caught up. Phew things are getting intense now... About Nightheart, I can tell that he's about to go through some major development. He's young and foolish; while his feelings towards Firestar and his legacy are justified, he's making bad decisions and snapping at cats who don't deserve to be snapped at. It's obvious he's going through a lot (just like any teenager).
There are a lot of scenes where he's reminded that there are cats who still like him/support him (Alderheart, Sunbeam, and Bramblestar), but he always goes back to thinking that he's always alone or that nobody supports him. I believe that this is the beginning of his development - it just has to stick in his brain that nobody in his life wants to see him as just another Firestar! They all want the best for him, just like any of their other Clanmates.
I generally like Nightheart and I think he has a lot of potential. He's quite frustrating and can be irritating, but I'm predicting that by the end of the story, he'll be a totally different and more mature cat than before. Personally, I hope his development is more smoothed out, from what I heard Rootpaw was a rather angsty character and childish to some degree then as a warrior he suddenly became matured when nothing drastic really happened to him outside of him almost drowning as an app and all before Bristle's death, so I hope it isn't like a flipped switch for him Yeah that's a good point. I have hope for Nightheart because his development is a central part of the TC plotline right now, so it would be really unfortunate if the Erins screwed up one of the most important parts of the story. |
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Post by Hawkpaw on Oct 17, 2022 23:49:35 GMT -5
Looking forward to hearing about the rest! I keep refreshing the page every 5 minutes, very anxious lmao Tbh I don't care enough about this mess of a book already so here's how they end up (I just skimmed through these) Nightheart x Sunbeam is official and Nightheart leaves ThunderClan. He comes up, insults everyone (if you thought Squirrelflight was insubordinate...she's tame compared to Nightheart!) and badmouths them all. He then announces he's no longer part of ThunderClan and books it out of the camp, leaving Bayshine wailing his name and trying to get him to come back. LMAOOOOOOO
So do we see Nightheart going to SC and getting with Sunbeam? Or does it just end on the most annoying cliffhanger lmao |
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Post by *Faith* on Oct 17, 2022 23:51:23 GMT -5
Oh, okay. BlazexLight in now a thing. And Nightheart has officially left the Clan. That means, for once, we won't have a TC POV. |
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Post by angyfrog on Oct 17, 2022 23:52:33 GMT -5
Oh, okay. BlazexLight in now a thing. And Nightheart has officially left the Clan. That means, for once, we won't have a TC POV. Bet it's gonna turn over to Squirrelflight
No diss on Squirrel but I'd have a good chuckle if she somehow becomes center in the spotlight again |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 17, 2022 23:52:39 GMT -5
Looking forward to hearing about the rest! I keep refreshing the page every 5 minutes, very anxious lmao Tbh I don't care enough about this mess of a book already so here's how they end up (I just skimmed through these) Nightheart x Sunbeam is official and Nightheart leaves ThunderClan. He comes up, insults everyone (if you thought Squirrelflight was insubordinate...she's tame compared to Nightheart!) and badmouths them all. He then announces he's no longer part of ThunderClan and books it out of the camp, leaving Bayshine wailing his name and trying to get him to come back. |
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 17, 2022 23:55:06 GMT -5
Tbh I don't care enough about this mess of a book already so here's how they end up (I just skimmed through these) Nightheart x Sunbeam is official and Nightheart leaves ThunderClan. He comes up, insults everyone (if you thought Squirrelflight was insubordinate...she's tame compared to Nightheart!) and badmouths them all. He then announces he's no longer part of ThunderClan and books it out of the camp, leaving Bayshine wailing his name and trying to get him to come back. LMAOOOOOOO
So do we see Nightheart going to SC and getting with Sunbeam? Or does it just end on the most annoying cliffhanger lmao Nightheart and Sunbeam sort of hook up near the end. Nightheart's final chapter is him leaving ThunderClan but is on his way to join ShadowClan. He hasn't been accepted yet. |
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Post by tybaxel on Oct 17, 2022 23:55:32 GMT -5
i'm kind of distraught over blaze x light. that is really so messed up of both of them to do that in my opinion. kind of proves that they were both lying to sunbeam... |
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 17, 2022 23:57:40 GMT -5
The next chapter is actually pretty hefty so I'll be doing that one tomorrow. It's the emergency gathering organized by Tigerstar.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 17, 2022 23:58:18 GMT -5
Help us, Frostpaw! You're our only hope at actually being a bearable protagonist for this arc! But seriously, Hollyfall, and I'm almost afraid to ask, but how bad is the badmouthing? |
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Post by angyfrog on Oct 17, 2022 23:59:02 GMT -5
Nightheart and Sunbeam sort of hook up near the end. Nightheart's final chapter is him leaving ThunderClan but is on his way to join ShadowClan. He hasn't been accepted yet. I REALLY hope even though it more than likely won't happen, is them finding out that they aren't all that...Connected as they thought they were, and their relationship was fickle at best
Seriously they met twice and are suddenly hooking up? What kinda mousebile is this, I hope they eventually break up but Night decides to stay in SC due to him feeling more at home there with his great aunt Tawny and Sun can just, take the L and realize the fact she doesn't need romance to feel happy or achieved |
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Oct 18, 2022 0:00:22 GMT -5
new record reached! i will stop reading the new arc myself after book 1 bc this book sounds dumb!
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Post by SquipyCheetah on Oct 18, 2022 0:02:26 GMT -5
I'm probably in the minority, but I really do love all of this. And I mean it too.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Oct 18, 2022 0:03:42 GMT -5
Aojfowjfkskf is Nightheart intentionally trying to provoke cats now?
Like is he attempting to make everyone dislike him, so he can wallow in self-pity and moan about how unfairly his Clanmates are treating him?. His high levels of cynicism and bitterness is quite astounding for someone so young. His personality kind of aligns with narcissistic neuroticism, which could explain is high irritability, emotional instability, and hypersensitivity and overreactions to any type of feedback or stimuli thatโs not explicitly positive. Though with the authors already affirming weโre supposed to be taking him seriously, I doubt itโs intentional.
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 0:04:51 GMT -5
Help us, Frostpaw! You're our only hope at actually being a bearable protagonist for this arc! But seriously, Hollyfall , and I'm almost afraid to ask, but how bad is the badmouthing? I'd post pictures but they do reference events that haven't happened yet (in terms of my summaries, I mean). Squirrelflight asks Nightheart where he had been as he's been missing for days, but he starts going off about how she just missed him doing all the useless tasks because she doesn't respect him. Squirrelflight says it's because he's been gone for literal days and nobody knew where he had went, and he's been told several times they literally have no apprentices so the warriors need to help out. He starts yelling at her saying she's horrible and doesn't appreciate him and treats him like he's useless. Squirrelflight says he keeps pushing himself and putting unreasonable expectations on himself, but Nightheart says she hates him and he's no longer part of ThunderClan. Sparkpelt asks why, and he says he's leaving. His screaming has woken up the entire Clan. Finchlight says he's just being dramatic, but Nightheart screams at her that nobody respects him treats him with dignity. Everyone in the Clan thinks so highly of themselves and he's going to a better Clan with cats who appreciate him. Then he runs off and says he's not part of them anymore.
Bayshine, who was woken up by this, is particularly hurt and has Nightheart runs, Bayshine is wailing for him to come back. Paraphrasing, of course. But still. |
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Post by Hawkpaw on Oct 18, 2022 0:04:57 GMT -5
Nightheart and Sunbeam sort of hook up near the end. Nightheart's final chapter is him leaving ThunderClan but is on his way to join ShadowClan. He hasn't been accepted yet. bruhhhhh |
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Oct 18, 2022 0:05:55 GMT -5
some predictions: nightheart is going to dive head first into a relationship with sunbeam, relying on her to fit in to shadowclan, but then the shadowclan subplot with berryheart kicks off and he'll have conflict there, and then maybe he'll question who he truly is bc if he cant rely on sunbeam and their relationship to help him figure it out, then what will? i would actually be ok with that tbh, but righ now i am just....not all pleased lol |
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Post by angyfrog on Oct 18, 2022 0:08:06 GMT -5
Highkey can't wait for Lionblaze or one of the other TC brutes kick his face in at a border skirmish, I think it's safe to say 100% Nightheart will totally try to incite a fight in a petty attempt to get back at his former clanmates |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 18, 2022 0:12:03 GMT -5
Help us, Frostpaw! You're our only hope at actually being a bearable protagonist for this arc! But seriously, Hollyfall , and I'm almost afraid to ask, but how bad is the badmouthing? I'd post pictures but they do reference events that haven't happened yet (in terms of my summaries, I mean). Squirrelflight asks Nightheart where he had been as he's been missing for days, but he starts going off about how she just missed him doing all the useless tasks because she doesn't respect him. Squirrelflight says it's because he's been gone for literal days and nobody knew where he had went, and he's been told several times they literally have no apprentices so the warriors need to help out. He starts yelling at her saying she's horrible and doesn't appreciate him and treats him like he's useless. Squirrelflight says he keeps pushing himself and putting unreasonable expectations on himself, but Nightheart says she hates him and he's no longer part of ThunderClan. Sparkpelt asks why, and he says he's leaving. His screaming has woken up the entire Clan. Finchlight says he's just being dramatic, but Nightheart screams at her that nobody respects him treats him with dignity. Everyone in the Clan thinks so highly of themselves and he's going to a better Clan with cats who appreciate him. Then he runs off and says he's not part of them anymore.ย
Bayshine, who was woken up by this, is particularly hurt and has Nightheart runs, Bayshine is wailing for him to come back.ย Paraphrasing, of course. But still.ย Usually I wait for an arc to finish to judge a protagonist, but god, is Nightheart making that super difficult!  |
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Post by โฒฯฮนะบฮฑฦฯ
ััโฒ on Oct 18, 2022 0:18:45 GMT -5
Here me out... Villain Nightheart???? |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 18, 2022 0:20:19 GMT -5
Y'know, while we're at it with the Rootspring x Bristlefrost parallels, if one of the protags die, then I hope it's Nightheart. I've never wanted a protagonist to die before. That's how much I hate him, and the fact that it's only the second book just makes it worse. Sure, he could end up improving in the future, but that doesn't make him any less unbearable. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 18, 2022 0:23:01 GMT -5
i'm kind of distraught over blaze x light. that is really so messed up of both of them to do that in my opinion. kind of proves that they were both lying to sunbeam... Not necessarily. Actually, considering how quickly cats tend to fall in love, it's completely possible the feelings started after he and Sunbeam broke up. |
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Post by angyfrog on Oct 18, 2022 0:25:47 GMT -5
Here me out... Villain Nightheart???? I am begging to absolutely have this |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 18, 2022 0:32:08 GMT -5
Here me out... Villain Nightheart???? I am begging to absolutely have this Please! Like, he wouldn't be a fun villain, but I'd take that over him being a heroic protagonist any day! And yet, I'm still holding out on the unreliable narrator angle, because jeez, his story is getting ridiculous at this point! |
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Post by tybaxel on Oct 18, 2022 0:33:59 GMT -5
i'm kind of distraught over blaze x light. that is really so messed up of both of them to do that in my opinion. kind of proves that they were both lying to sunbeam... Not necessarily. Actually, considering how quickly cats tend to fall in love, it's completely possible the feelings started after he and Sunbeam broke up. i suppose that is true! but i still think it's a bit rude of them considering how light and blaze both told sunbeam they didn't have feelings for each other, and this happened so quickly after sun and blaze broke up...idk, maybe it's just me LOL |
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Post by Snowfire on Oct 18, 2022 0:35:55 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Actually, considering how quickly cats tend to fall in love, it's completely possible the feelings started after he and Sunbeam broke up. i suppose that is true! but i still think it's a bit rude of them considering how light and blaze both told sunbeam they didn't have feelings for each other, and this happened so quickly after sun and blaze broke up...idk, maybe it's just me LOL Itโs not just you, these two have gone to my least characters list |
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Post by teethtears on Oct 18, 2022 0:39:19 GMT -5
I don't have much to add here but I'm so happy I stopped reading the main series now judging by how this is going
Frostpaw is really the only character I like in this entire arc
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Post by แแชแ แฝ แพf fแชแแ แพms ใโ on Oct 18, 2022 0:43:51 GMT -5
my thoughts on blaze x light i think they both liked each other, and were in deep denial over it. blaze was already building something with someone else, so he wanted an out before his feelings for light got deeper. light was sun's friend, so she was the most deep in denial and profusely insisted she didnt like blaze in order to make herself feel better and convince herself she was doing the right thing by her friend. but then blaze and sun broke up, and lightleap's denial slowly began to fade and since other things in her life were chaotic and she and sun arent as close anymore, she felt she could finally get clsoe to blaze again and accept their mutual feelings for each other. |
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Post by angyfrog on Oct 18, 2022 0:47:10 GMT -5
my thoughts on blaze x light i think they both liked each other, and were in deep denial over it. blaze was already building something with someone else, so he wanted an out before his feelings for light got deeper. light was sun's friend, so she was the most deep in denial and profusely insisted she didnt like blaze in order to make herself feel better and convince herself she was doing the right thing by her friend. but then blaze and sun broke up, and lightleap's denial slowly began to fade and since other things in her life were chaotic and she and sun arent as close anymore, she felt she could finally get clsoe to blaze again and accept their mutual feelings for each other. Honestly, even if it was a bit in poor taste, lying about how they didn't have feelings then they're both suddenly together, at least Blazefire was real with Sunbeam, I'd much prefer him being real rather than cheating later down the line when he could've had kits at that point
Personally I hope the reason why Sunbeam even gets with Nightheart is not because of her feeling actual genuine chemistry but her more so doing it out of pettiness, it's clear she has waay too much of an eye on Blazefire and I kinda wanna see that blow up in her face |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 18, 2022 0:55:45 GMT -5
my thoughts on blaze x light i think they both liked each other, and were in deep denial over it. blaze was already building something with someone else, so he wanted an out before his feelings for light got deeper. light was sun's friend, so she was the most deep in denial and profusely insisted she didnt like blaze in order to make herself feel better and convince herself she was doing the right thing by her friend. but then blaze and sun broke up, and lightleap's denial slowly began to fade and since other things in her life were chaotic and she and sun arent as close anymore, she felt she could finally get clsoe to blaze again and accept their mutual feelings for each other. This is what I was thinking as well! If not this, then they just fell in love super quickly after Blazefire's break-up with Sunbeam (Graystripe and Silverstream fell in love after only knowing each other for a few days, so make of that what you will). Either way, I doubt either of them meant her any harm. |
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