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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 14:15:00 GMT -5
I can't believe they're nuking SquirrelXBramble in this sort of way, especially after all Squirrelflight did for him last arc. It's uncomfortable to read. Right? It's especially strange due to Squirrelflight was written to have fought for him so hard in TBC and their love was specifically mentioned to upset Ashfur when Shadowsight baited him there but now they're arguing with each other again with the new strained element to their relationship dynamic of both cats having PTSD (and Bramblestar showing signs of dementia).
I never liked nor shipped BrambleSquirrel as a pairing but this back and forth is just so frustrating to read about at this point.
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Post by ens007 on Oct 18, 2022 14:15:36 GMT -5
Oh, they are? I didn't even bother to check if they were related. Although this wouldn't be the first time cousins (or rather second cousins after checking) got together in this series. But then again, I'm doubting they actually will get together and it instead just remains a fleeting questioning of feelings/crush on Frostpaw's part. Hopefully... I feel like there being an entire prophecy about how Dovewing and Lionblaze (and therefore Ivypool and Fernsong) are related to Firestar as well as the fact that Sunbeam herself even pointed out that Lightleap and Nightheart were kin despite her flirting with him not long after this shows just how little the Clans care for blood ties in-universe. It's not just the Erins forgetting at this point! Too many cats are simply related to one another at this point, at least in thunderclan. Trying to come up with some perfect family tree free of incest isn't realistic.
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Post by ~Ƈαммι-`ღ´- on Oct 18, 2022 14:17:07 GMT -5
Ch 13b: Tawnypelt you MVP. Thank you so much for standing up to your idiot son’s attempt at a power grab. Also, the fact that Sunbeam didn't know who Tawnypelt was talking about just adds to my theory that ShadowClan either doesn't like talking about its horrible past at all or they glorify it, which contributed to the apprentice rebellion. Or maybe ShadowClan’s been through so many corruption and rebellion phases that they can’t hardly keep track anymore X’D Ch14: • Bramble, dude, if you’re really so far gone you’re going to pretend Tigercrap isn’t a terrible leader just because he’s your nephew then you really need to step down o.e’ * Squirrel, I agree Tigercrap’s stupid but you’re overreacting, not to mention you yelling at your husband who is showing clear signs of PTSD and dementia is really showing how unhealthy your relationship w/ him is * Wait brAMBLE- WHY ? KEEPING SECRETS WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE, WTH DID YOU TWO NOT LEARN FROM ADOPTING LEAFPOOL’S THREE?? Ch15: • Frostpaw no don’t fall into the cliche it’s still not legal * Oh dear. So someone hid the extra catmint supply, did Motheing out of protectiveness of her Clan or is this situation even more sus? Just FYI, the editing team lead by James Noble makes these kind of decisions. I’m pretty sure Kate and Cherith have input but ultimately it’s up to James and the editors. Why I prefer to blame the editors for everything stupid cx I can’t remember for sure but considering how Squirrel is being portrayed as the incorrect/toxic one this book, does Kate hate her? Or is that actually Cherith or the editors who hate her? All I remember rn is someone on the team dies lol Ch16: • Omg, I would not be surprised at this point if Berryheart actually told Fringewhisker to give prey to SkyClan. God’s sake girl, you’re being absolutely heinous about this. * Pfff stop acting like Dovewing’s useful, all she’s ever done since OoTS was get knocked up in a relationship she never should’ve crawled back to x.x * Haha Tigershit “not cruel”? Even tho you literally just threatened to try and monopolize an already distressed RiverClan?? * Sunbeam, good on you for being so kind to your new sis-in-law! I hope Fringewhisker finds enough courage to stand up for herself, although I worry about what further issues it might cause. * Berryheart being paranoid and assuming Fringewhisker will be another Darktail just because she’s not from ShadowClan *sigh* A second round of kudos to Sunbeam for calling her out on that. Ch17: • Bayshine does have a point, as bad as I feel for Bramblestar he’s not really in the right mind to be giving orders like that anymore * Squirrelflight’s stubborn tail once again being too hard on her mentally declining and traumatized husband x.x * Okay, it seems NightXSun is rooting from both of these cats’ desperation to be appreciated - which is understandable but not exactly healthy, unless they actually end up meshing well. Wouldn’t be surprised if this relationship proves unhealthy but the editors still glorify it just to defend all the cross-clan stuff. Best case scenario for TC and ShC at this point, Tigercrap gets overthrown for nepotism and general emotional incompetence, STAYS overthrown instead of getting some stupid editor-contrived chance to ‘redeem himself’, Bramble retires and/or passes away, and no Squirrelstar because she’s also too old and it would be obvious nepotism. Both Bramble and Squirrel have been through enough.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 14:28:00 GMT -5
~Ƈαммι-`ღ´- Kate has stated to actually have a dislike/hate for both Bramblestar and Squirrelflight. She is still mad that Bramblestar "took away" the deputy position from her favorite character Graystripe and at one point said Squirrelflight would be the last cat she would choose as deputy. There was also the time she thought Bramble and Squirrel would have bullied her in school due to her thinking they had jock and cheerleader personalities:
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 14:28:33 GMT -5
Chapter 18: Sunbeam - Sunbeam is troubled that Nightheart seems to believe they're all on the brink of war, and believes that Tigerstar's plans weren't the only reason he'd crossed the border to see her. She hopes he does move to ShadowClan so she can have a true companion again. She then sees Spireclaw and Berryheart arguing. Spireclaw tells her to leave Fringewhisker alone, but Berryheart hisses that she doesn't belong in ShadowClan. Spireclaw threatens to leave for SkyClan if that's what she really thinks. Berryheart stiffens, and says he has no loyalty. Spireclaw says he has loyalty for Fringewhisker, and he doesn't understand why Berryheart hates her so much.
- Sunbeam steps between them, asking them not to fight. Berryheart snorts she smells like herbs, and Sunbeam lies she walked through a patch of comfrey. Spireclaw snarls that he's going to finish his meal and then go find Fringewhisker. Sunbeam follows Spireclaw and he thanks her for sticking up for Fringewhisker earlier. Sunbeam assures him Berryheart is out of line, but she sympathizes with that Berryheart is trying to prevent history repeating itself. Spireclaw is less sympathetic and says it's unfair to take it all out on Fringewhisker. The two break off and Sunbeam goes to eat with Flaxfoot, who has saved a shrew for Sunbeam, and he says shrews are her favourite.
- Sunbeam and Flaxfoot talk about the last gathering when Tigerstar propositioned to lead RiverClan. Sunbeam says she heard that Tigerstar plans to invade. Flaxfoot is surprised, and says it'd be easy to do so right now but he doesn't see the point since ShadowClan doesn't eat fish. Sunbeam shrugs and says it's just a rumour probably, but Flaxfoot says he'll keep an ear out for news, but then goes to use the dirtplace.
- As Sunbeam lazes about later on, she overhears Berryheart and Tigerstar arguing. Berryheart accuses Tigerstar of wanting to invade RiverClan. Tigerstar, angry, asks where she got that idea. Berryheart says he's trying to install himself as RiverClan's leader. Tigerstar drops his jaw and asks why she thinks that. Berryheart says he's bitter because he lost a kit and wants to take revenge on RiverClan for their inaction. Tigerstar hisses that he knows full well that the death of his son is no reason to go to war and he wouldn't try to go to war for his own gain, especially when he's still grieving for Rowankit.
- Berryheart tries to backtrack, but Tigerstar demands to know where she got that information. Flaxfoot and Sunbeam lock eyes, and Sunbeam realizes Flaxfoot told Berryheart everything. Tigerstar growls that he doesn't want to invade and he only wants to help them. He doesn't want to become leader of RiverClan, and his duty is ShadowClan, but he will help RiverClan if it meets protecting ShadowClan. Berryheart mews that they shouldn't be getting involved. Tigerstar says their problems will become ShadowClan problems if they let it fester, using Ashfur's reign of ThunderClan as an example. Berryheart says helping is one thing, and invading is another. Tigerstar snarls he isn't going to invade, and next time she accuses him of things she should make sure they're true, and stalks off.
- Berryheart approaches Sunbeam and demands to know why she's passing on lies. Sunbeam stammers that she heard it from Nightheart, and Berryheart snarls that Sunbeam trusts some random tom more than her Clan. Berryheart continues to reprimand Sunbeam until Sunbeam turns her back and leaves, watching Flaxfoot stare at the ground meekly. As she leaves, she sees Blazefire and Lightleap standing together. Her heart lurches as she realizes they lied to her, and they're mates. Blazefire tries to explain one thing led to another, and they love each other. Sunbeam says their relationship is fine, but she has more important things to do.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 14:33:30 GMT -5
I really hope SpireFringe move to SkyClan to be safe and happy there instead. Berryheart is quite brave to argue with Tigerstar like that. Looks like BlazeLight really is canon now. The drama!
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Post by wolfboyhunter on Oct 18, 2022 14:34:34 GMT -5
I've been expecting him to develop dementia for a while, just as I did with Bluestar's leadership. Him not being able to recognize Nightheart, looking horrified, it all rings like stage three. I'm impressed, intrigued, but still hope he just ⚱️, ya know?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 14:35:38 GMT -5
I love how loyal Spireclaw is to Fringewhisker! Poor Sunbeam (at the same time, Blazefire and Lightleap don't really owe her anything and it seems like they became mates only very recently), but why couldn't the one who is actually being affected by Berryheart be the ShadowClan protagonist instead?
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 14:38:17 GMT -5
I've been expecting him to develop dementia for a while, just as I did with Bluestar's leadership. Him not being able to recognize Nightheart, looking horrified, it all rings like stage three. I'm impressed, intrigued, but still hope he just ⚱️, ya know? I highly doubt Bramblestar will get killed off after only one arc in which they tried everything to save him. It is much more likely that he will either retire from the leadership position or get voted out by his Clanmates.
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Post by 🎃👻🦇Brambleheart🦇👻🎃 on Oct 18, 2022 14:38:25 GMT -5
Unrelated but I have gotten so much candy from reloading this thread for new posts
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 14:40:40 GMT -5
Unrelated but I have gotten so much candy from reloading this thread for new posts Me too! It has been a good harvesting method indeed.
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 18, 2022 14:43:39 GMT -5
Unrelated but I have gotten so much candy from reloading this thread for new posts Currently on mobile, so not the case for me. ):
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 14:44:09 GMT -5
Chapter 19: Frostpaw - Frostpaw, Mothwing, and Fidgetflake state in disbelief as Owlnose leaves the Moonpool. Mothwing tries to tell him he can't leave, but Frostpaw mews that you can't force a cat to be leader. She doesn't know who to pick if Owlnose doesn't want the leadership. She thinks of how much of a failure she is. She's misinterpreted everything and a useless apprentice. Fidgetflake grumbles they need to tell the other Clans. Mothwing explodes in anger and says Fidgetflake won't be telling them anything, and it's bad enough Fidgetflake knows more than he should. Fidgetflake glowers and says the medicine cats could help them. Mothwing screams that Tigerstar is already trying to take over their Clan. Fidgetflake snorts they need help, which Mothwing declines. Fidgetflake groans and tells Mothwing to just cut the act and says whether she likes it or not, they're in trouble. He leaves to go home and call an emergency medicine cat meeting.
- Frostpaw tries again to contact StarClan, but misses Curlfeather and wishes she were here to encourage her. Despite Frostpaw's attempts, she cannot reach StarClan. Mothwing assures her that she just needs more time, but Frostpaw screeches that they don't have time. Mothwing's eyes glimmer with sadness, and says she's worry she can't help her more with her troubles. Frostpaw says it's Mothwing's fault she doesn't have a proper connection to StarClan because Mothwing doesn't even believe in them.
- Frostpaw tries again to contact StarClan, but her head fills with doubts and remembering Curlfeather's final words. She starts to think perhaps she's not a real medicine cat, and perhaps she should a warrior like Mistpaw and Graypaw. She says she'll be a warrior if she needs to be, and then thinks that perhaps in time she and Splashtail would become mates. They could have kits, and she would name a kit after her mother. She begins to panic as Fidgetflake already suspects Mistystar and Reedwhisker didn't die of greencough. She wakes up. Mothwing asks if she's seen anything, but Frostpaw says no. Mothwing is upset, but Frostpaw says she's given up. They need to be honest about things, and that she shouldn't be the one deciding the fate of the Clan. Mothwing sighs, and says maybe she's right.
- As they return home, Mothwing tries to insist that Frostpaw is only connection to StarClan. Frostpaw doesn't answer. The two reach their camp, but in the camp they see ShadowClan warriors circling around Tigerstar. Their eyes filled with determination as RiverClan hangs back, full of fear. Dread fills Frostpaw's heart as she hopes that Tigerstar's here with good intentions.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 14:48:51 GMT -5
Poor Frostpaw, the poor baby needs a hug!
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 14:50:10 GMT -5
Wow, I really feel bad for a lot of characters in this book so far but Frostpaw hits different. She is so young and already so traumatized at this point. While I'm still holding out hope for her to actually be destined for leadership of RiverClan instead of the medicine cat position, Mothwing might be a good temporary fit for now until then. Also, her panicking and thinking of becoming mates with Splashtail and naming a kit after her mother also made me feel yet a different kind of bad. She might be close to a full mental breakdown soon.
What a surprise, Tigerstar is here to take over RiverClan. Just like his grandfather...
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 18, 2022 14:59:37 GMT -5
Honestly dont like what theyre turning Tigerstar II into.
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Post by wolfboyhunter on Oct 18, 2022 15:00:00 GMT -5
It'd be funny if grey-pelts was a slur for older cats though let's be real.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 15:00:44 GMT -5
This means there is only one more Nightheart chapter and then a final Sunbeam chapter to go before the book is already over. That was fast... Hollyfall I think the Frostpaw chapter on this page labeled as Chapter 19 is supposed to be number 20, right? Since the previous one with Sunbeam is already the 19th chapter.
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 15:04:37 GMT -5
Chapter 20: Nightheart Here's Nightheart's spat with Squirrelflight and choosing to leave the Clan:
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 15:06:32 GMT -5
This means there is only one more Nightheart chapter and then a final Sunbeam chapter to go before the book is already over. That was fast... Hollyfall I think the Frostpaw chapter on this page labeled as Chapter 19 is supposed to be number 20, right? Since the previous one with Sunbeam is already the 19th chapter. Oh that's a typo on my part. Sunbeam is chapter 18, then Frostpaw is 19, then Nightheart is 20. I'll go fix that.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 15:09:32 GMT -5
I don't think that Nightheart will join ShadowClan for long. Just like I'm also convinced that NightSun is not endgame in this arc. This all feels like a temporary situation.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 15:10:49 GMT -5
This means there is only one more Nightheart chapter and then a final Sunbeam chapter to go before the book is already over. That was fast... Hollyfall I think the Frostpaw chapter on this page labeled as Chapter 19 is supposed to be number 20, right? Since the previous one with Sunbeam is already the 19th chapter. Oh that's a typo on my part. Sunbeam is chapter 18, then Frostpaw is 19, then Nightheart is 20. I'll go fix that. Ah, I see. Just thought to point it out since I was getting a bit confused myself lol.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 15:12:58 GMT -5
Nightheart keeps being a pain and I really hope he improves! But yeah, I see nothing wrong with proclaiming you're going to be the mate to a ShadowClan cat who may not even genuinely like you back, all while the leader is off playing invader and certain members of the Clan are already trying to kick one Clanmate out! And he knows this, but hey, I'm sure he'll have a great time anyway!
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Post by wolfboyhunter on Oct 18, 2022 15:15:38 GMT -5
"Bayshine seemed to care more than Nightheart's own kin." Perhaps, and hear me out Nightheart, HE'S RELATED TO YOU.
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Post by wolfboyhunter on Oct 18, 2022 15:24:42 GMT -5
I kinda hope he stays there. Get out of ThunderClan for a book or two. Maybe we could return one day to it and then suddenly Bramblestar has retired. And then there could be a prologue explaining his retirement ceremony.
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Post by Hollyfall on Oct 18, 2022 15:25:18 GMT -5
Chapter 21: Frostpaw - Frostpaw sees Tigerstar has brought the majority of his warriors. Owlnose and Splashtail are facing off Tigerstar and Cloverfoot. Mothwing demands to know why they're here. Tigerstar mews they're here to help. Splashtail sneers they don't need help, and it frightens Frostpaw to see Splashtail so angry. ShadowClan begins flanking the medicine cats, and Mothwing spits that Tigerstar seems to think they're helpless. He only mews that ShadowClan is committed to seeing RiverClan prosper and through it's troubles. Mothwing curls her lip and tells him leave. Tigerstar looks at Owlnose and asks what he thinks. Splashtail answers for him and tells him to leave. Frostpaw spots Duskfur and Shimmerpelt staring at Tigerstar with rage. Splashtail says he and Owlnose want them gone, to which Tigerstar (Frostpaw notes genuine concern in his voice) replies that StarClan has let RiverClan down again and Owlnose doesn't have his nine lives. He asks for Fidgetflake, and Mothwing replies he went home. Tigerstar shakes his head and mews that it's a shame he couldn't help.
- Splashtail snarls for Tigerstar to leave, or they're going to fight. Tigerstar squares up and growls that they're leaderless, and weak. They've been relying on Mothwing so much that their Clan is a wreck and seemingly forgot they had catmint, which surprises Frostpaw as she doesn't know how Tigerstar could have known that. Tigerstar snarls that if Mothwing wasn't so busy, then Rowankit would be alive. He then gestures to the tattered camp walls and dens, and meows that they clearly need help, and says he'll be their leader until they can sort themselves out. Splashtail flattens his ears and Duskfur lashes her tail.
- Harelight and Icewing try to defuse the situation by saying Tigerstar isn't unreasonable, but Mallownose and Sneezecloud jeer at them and tell them to move back to ShadowClan if they like it so much. Mothwing, clearly at her breaking point, snarls that this isn't Tigerstar offering them sanctuary; this is him taking over and removing their independence. She threatens Tigerstar to leave. Tigerstar, irritated, meows that this isn't a takeover, he only wishes to advise them. Duskfur snarks that it doesn't seem that way. Mallownose screams at him to go home. Tigerstar glances at Stonewing, and orders him to encircle the RiverClan cats. Duskfur hisses as ShadowClan begins to envelope them. Shimmerpelt asks Owlnose what to do, but Owlnose is staring in panic at Tigerstar, and, his voice breaking, pleads for everyone to not fight.
- Duskfur then lunges for Cloverfoot, heaving her to the ground and slamming her face into the mud. With that, the battle begins. Berryheart lunges for Duskfur, and the screams of battle deafen Frostpaw's ears as Shimmerpelt fights Spireclaw.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 18, 2022 15:28:28 GMT -5
Tigerstar is the worst, but what else is new?
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 18, 2022 15:29:03 GMT -5
History really is repeating itself right now for RiverClan seasons later because Tigerstar is back! *cue dramatic music*
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Post by wolfboyhunter on Oct 18, 2022 15:29:34 GMT -5
WELL THAT IS CERTAINLY A CLIFFHANGER
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