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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 15:24:11 GMT -5
They're bashed those rules in the face since kittenhood, no wonder they see it as the word of god. But it's true code-breaking is not often punished, but I get it, some recent examples of punishments really went off the limit and I wouldn't like it to be the basic punishment. Though it would be fun a society of cats just pointlessly following rules to the core, so much that it would end up destroying them or something. A perfect recent (for me at least) example of this are interactions between Jaypaw and Leafpool. Every time Jaypaw brings up the fact that their ancestors aren't perfect, flawless beings with devout wisdom and endless knowledge, Leafpool reacts like someone telling a Christian that their God isn't real or that they make mistakes. It's utter blasphemy to them. Just general conditioning. And Jaypaw's a medicine cat, I'm surprised up until this point, if a "rogue" warrior dared not declare StarClan to be perfect, that they were punished very harshly. Oh definitely. I've incorporated both ideas into a project of mine (challenging anything about your faith or your elders = instant exile, and cats following tradition to the point where they ignore doing the right thing), but I won't say more.
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 15:25:07 GMT -5
oh thats perfect cause i havent read past it either lol. I liked the occasional forbidden love thing, but with just how long the series has gone on and how they don't accept very many outsiders they keep running into problems where Oops! All Incest Babies! it's kind of a necessary change. It would have been funny to see the kittens being born more and more disabled I would have to look this up again to be sure, but I'm pretty sure human genes are incredibly weak when it comes to incest. Most animals can breed between relatives for countless generations and they'd turn out just fine. Again, if this is true, *the more you know*.
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Post by EliDarling on Aug 20, 2022 15:30:10 GMT -5
They're bashed those rules in the face since kittenhood, no wonder they see it as the word of god. But it's true code-breaking is not often punished, but I get it, some recent examples of punishments really went off the limit and I wouldn't like it to be the basic punishment. Though it would be fun a society of cats just pointlessly following rules to the core, so much that it would end up destroying them or something. A perfect recent (for me at least) examples of this are interactions between Jaypaw and Leafpool. Every time Jaypaw brings up the fact that their ancestors aren't perfect, flawless beings with devout wisdom and endless knowledge, Leafpool reacts like someone telling a Christian that their God isn't real or that they make mistakes. It's utter blasphemy to them. Just general conditioning. And Jaypaw's a medicine cat, I'm surprised up until this point, if a "rogue" warrior dared not declare StarClan to be perfect, that they are punished very harshly. Oh definitely. I've incorporated both ideas into a project of mine (challenging anything about your faith or your elders = instant exile, and cats following tradition to the point where they ignore doing the right thing), but I won't say more. Mothwing has the same speech in OotS with Jay, it's funny how the cats still listen to StarClan, they've caused so much trouble just by sending ambiguous signs nobody could decipher. It messed up Tigerstar in a way, Goosefeather, some others you've yet to read about. Really... I just love Mothering because she doesn't care and just heals... and she's doing a wonderful job... so yeah.
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 15:31:27 GMT -5
A perfect recent (for me at least) examples of this are interactions between Jaypaw and Leafpool. Every time Jaypaw brings up the fact that their ancestors aren't perfect, flawless beings with devout wisdom and endless knowledge, Leafpool reacts like someone telling a Christian that their God isn't real or that they make mistakes. It's utter blasphemy to them. Just general conditioning. And Jaypaw's a medicine cat, I'm surprised up until this point, if a "rogue" warrior dared not declare StarClan to be perfect, that they are punished very harshly. Oh definitely. I've incorporated both ideas into a project of mine (challenging anything about your faith or your elders = instant exile, and cats following tradition to the point where they ignore doing the right thing), but I won't say more. Mothwing has the same speech in OotS with Jay, it's funny how the cats still listen to StarClan, they've caused so much trouble just by sending ambiguous signs nobody could decipher. It messed up Tigerstar in a way, Goosefeather, some others you've yet to read about. Really... I just love Mothering because she doesn't care and just heals... and she's doing a wonderful job... so yeah. Not to be rude, but... "Last minute change: I am forbidding any further discussion from the books post-PoT, as I have not yet caught up beyond that point. Thank you." This has been a wonderful discussion (like, really!), but I'm going to have to cut things off here, sorry. You did no bad!
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Post by EliDarling on Aug 20, 2022 15:36:23 GMT -5
It would have been funny to see the kittens being born more and more disabled I would have to look this up again to be sure, but I'm pretty sure human genes are incredibly weak when it comes to incest. Most animals can breed between relatives for countless generations and they'd turn out just fine. Again, if this is true, *the more you know*. oh they can but they still end up with behaviour issues at first, but if the incest is reproduced on several generations it can become malformations or other health issues.
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 15:37:47 GMT -5
So now I am debating: Do I continue reading PoT until the very end, or do I begin on Graystripe Adventure in order to hopefully get back into the habit of reading?
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 15:39:04 GMT -5
I would have to look this up again to be sure, but I'm pretty sure human genes are incredibly weak when it comes to incest. Most animals can breed between relatives for countless generations and they'd turn out just fine. Again, if this is true, *the more you know*. oh they can but they still end up with behaviour issues at first, but if the incest is reproduced on several generations it can become malformations or other health issues. I suppose you have a point, yeah. Plus said individuals and family lines are more likely to be wiped out. It's no secret that hundreds to thousands of years ago, humans who have the gene of poor eyesight were far less prevalent.
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 16:11:02 GMT -5
A perfect recent (for me at least) examples of this are interactions between Jaypaw and Leafpool. Every time Jaypaw brings up the fact that their ancestors aren't perfect, flawless beings with devout wisdom and endless knowledge, Leafpool reacts like someone telling a Christian that their God isn't real or that they make mistakes. It's utter blasphemy to them. Just general conditioning. And Jaypaw's a medicine cat, I'm surprised up until this point, if a "rogue" warrior dared not declare StarClan to be perfect, that they are punished very harshly. Oh definitely. I've incorporated both ideas into a project of mine (challenging anything about your faith or your elders = instant exile, and cats following tradition to the point where they ignore doing the right thing), but I won't say more. >snip< And I've developed another quote for an OC of mine. They say...
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 16:35:01 GMT -5
I think it's about time I hopped back into the world of Skyrim.
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 20, 2022 16:43:43 GMT -5
My quote above has stemmed another quote for an OC haha.
"There is a cost to everything in life - nothing is ever free. The consequence to being kind is to be blind. Any selfless act, be it generosity, empathy, compassion, mercy, these are all choices that leave you vulnerable, even if only for a brief moment. I choose to keep my senses about me at all times. I admit that I am a fox-heart. There is not one shred of kindness within me, or at least any that appears so easily on the surface. That does not make me any less loyal or lacking of a heart. The heart of a warrior still burns within me."
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 22, 2022 21:56:27 GMT -5
Why did I spend 20 minutes of my life arguing with people on social media that cats do not express any emotion through body language? (Their words, not mine.)
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 22, 2022 22:01:22 GMT -5
I bent over to grab something out of my nightstand and my hair dangled over and inserted itself into my fan. That hurt.
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Post by EliDarling on Aug 23, 2022 1:41:29 GMT -5
Why did I spend 20 minutes of my life arguing with people on social media that cats do not express any emotion through body language? (Their words, not mine.) wait people think they don't?
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 23, 2022 1:44:58 GMT -5
Why did I spend 20 minutes of my life arguing with people on social media that cats do not express any emotion through body language? (Their words, not mine.) wait people think they don't? Yep. It started with a thread about the Lion King "live action" remake and the constructive criticism behind it, then it quickly went into "animals have no emotional expression through facial or body language", and it finally and rather unexpectedly concluded with debates around the common housecat.
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Post by EliDarling on Aug 23, 2022 1:49:44 GMT -5
Well those people are mouse-brained, and surely never owned a cat, nor a dog, nor any animal on this earth. Even fish can show emotional expression, how can they think cat don't.
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 23, 2022 1:52:31 GMT -5
Well those people are mouse-brained, and surely never owned a cat, nor a dog, nor any animal on this earth. Even fish can show emotional expression, how can they think cat don't. Their argument always circles back to, "Well they don't express emotions like a human can." No, they can't, often for literal physical reasons. Not to put us on a high pedestal against the rest of the animal kingdom, but I'm pretty sure only humans can relate to human emotion and how we express it visually. If you can't understand how other creatures display their thoughts or emotions, then you should have no ability to comment on this subject. Vent over, moving on lol.
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Post by Dark Sun on Aug 24, 2022 3:05:41 GMT -5
In Graystripe's Adventure Vol. 3, Graystripe mentions the word "West". Is that terminology considered canon? What about "weeks"? Graystripe mentions that word as well.
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Post by Dark Sun on Sept 3, 2022 12:07:52 GMT -5
I'm surprised that ThunderClan was never insulted by being given the name of "KittyClan".
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Post by Leapkit on Sept 3, 2022 14:51:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised that ThunderClan was never insulted by being given the name of "KittyClan". I could have sworn they were at one point.
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Post by Dark Sun on Oct 5, 2022 9:27:18 GMT -5
I dug up an old AU fanfic piece of mine where Firestar has Scourge in the middle of a field and he questions his actions and the way he runs BloodClan, calling them "evil". Scourge responds,
"Evil?" he scowled as he calmly approached the flaming ginger tom, who towered at almost twice his size, but he felt not intimidation from. "Let me ask you a question, Firestar. What would you be willing to do to protect your own?" he asked, followed be a pause. "What would you be willing to sacrifice to protect those who you love?"
Firestar responds honestly, answering with, "I would be willing to sacrifice anything for them."
Scourge meows, "So would I," again with a pause. "Not all cats in my Clan were born in Twolegplace, Firestar. Many came from well beyond our sights, and with each case I grow more intrigued by how vast this world truly is, and they always have such interesting stories to tell. One common theme arises from their tales, a conclusion that I have long since made clear to myself. It is impossible for two or more groups to co-exist in harmony. Peace... may be achieved temporarily, but that is only a break in-between two different wars. Discrimination and prejudice will always develop, hatred will always rise and fester like spoiled flesh, bloodshed becomes as reliable predictable as rainfall during the height of leaf-fall. I would never allow my Clan to experience such hardship, such utter cruelty.
When I came to what would become my territory, I saw different sides bickering and arguing, scrapping and bullying one another, and one side, the cats who took me in, were hit hardest of all. I taught them to fight, to defend their borders..."
"To kill." Firestar interrupted him.
Scourge hissed in the middle of a heavy sigh. "Yes. I molded them to be willing to do whatever it takes to ensure their own survival, and you know what Firestar, we won. We secured our place as the most dominant faction in Twolegplace, no other lesser band of cats would compare to the might of BloodClan... But even when we achieved our victory, my Clan remained starving."
"You hoped that one day--" Firestar began.
"Hope is a coward's excuse of doing nothing," Scourge spat. "And here we are. We're not going to back down from this opportunity, Firestar. I protect my Clan like you do yours, that I can admire you for. Many cats would turn tail and flee, but you choose to stand and defend your keep, even if that may yet be your downfall," he meowed, pausing before continuing once more. "You call us evil. I could not disagree more. I am willing to put my life, my Clan's lives, on the line to secure our future. That is not evil - that is good."
"Despite that fact, you enjoy killing, as do many of your Clanmates."
"Some may enjoy it a little too much," Scourge meowed with a hint of a mrrow of laughter. "But once you become good at something, and I mean really good at it, you take pride in your work."
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Post by Dark Sun on Nov 8, 2022 1:23:18 GMT -5
Another quote I just came up with, concerning a deputy who attempted to eliminate their leader and take over their Clan, but who aided them in the end to defeat a great rogue army. The leader speaks at the next Gathering,
"The words I speak tonight are not my own, but they come from StarClan. From this moment forth, you are punished with the sentence of exile, not just from ShadowClan, but from all of the lake and the lands that surround it. You must travel a minimum of ten lengths the distance from our current territory to that of the old. As secondary punishment, your name has also been revoked. From now until the day you die, and afterwards, you will be nameless, faceless, powerless. Now leave us."
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Post by Dark Sun on Nov 10, 2022 12:12:19 GMT -5
Another quote.
"I have no respect for your Mediator because it goes against the very foundation of the Clans. The warriors' purpose is to subjugate and exterminate, not to negotiate."
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Post by Dark Sun on Nov 13, 2023 1:58:43 GMT -5
I recently created my first batch of pastries, and I am so proud. Yay for new life skills! They were Blueberry French Toast Muffins (with cinnamon). As it turned out, the tray I used is better suited for cupcakes, not muffins, so their size wasn't something to be desired, but they tasted alright! Next time I'll add more cinnamon and blueberries, and they'll be cooked in a proper tray, of course. (My mind is going from sleepiness. I initially wrote that as, "Next time I'll use more eggs and muffins.") Speaking of eggs, it took half a dozen of the things to make a dozen of these "muffins". I won't be making these anytime soon!
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