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Post by stupidflower on Jul 31, 2022 20:31:16 GMT -5
Do you like the main protagonists of the later arcs more than those of the first arcs? I personally like all the POV characters from Dawn of the Clans, A Vision of Shadows, The Broken Code and A Starless Clan so far(Gray Wing, Skystar, Thunderstar, Alderheart, Twigbranch, Violetshine, Bristlefrost, Rootspring, Shadowsight, Frostpaw, Nightheart, and Sunbeam) more than those of the first four arcs (Firestar, Bramblestar, Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Stormfur, Feathertail, Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, Dovewing, Ivypool and Flametail). Besides Jayfeather, Flametail, Ivypool and Stormfur, I didn’t enjoy the characters of the first few arcs as much as those of the cats in the later ones, honestly every single one of which I enjoyed. What about the rest of you? What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 21:28:00 GMT -5
I can’t really have a say in this but I really like TNP ones and ASC’s so far
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jul 31, 2022 22:33:29 GMT -5
my main example is jayfeather. i love jayfeather, but ever since we stopped getting his POV, he's been written as a total A*hole and i've seen a few fans over the years complain about him being such an overstepping jerk to some characters lately.
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Post by Bristleflight-bristlefrost! on Aug 1, 2022 7:19:37 GMT -5
My main favs are bristlefrost squirrelflight graywing ivypool and Rootspring so it's about even for me. But in the long run. It's still about even. I do injoy latter arcs Wu more though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 11:05:17 GMT -5
Yes. Heck, four out of my top five characters are protagonists from newer arcs.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Aug 1, 2022 11:35:07 GMT -5
Nope. I’d say they’re about equal.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 1, 2022 12:15:11 GMT -5
Nah. To be honest, the only protagonists I ever really vibed with were Firestar and the Three. Everyone else (TNP, OOTS, AVoS, and TBC) I just felt meh about.
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Post by Alexisawe on Aug 1, 2022 14:16:13 GMT -5
Honestly, for me, I don't think the recent ones are necessarily likable, but they aren't dislikable either. For example, in TBC, I liked all 3 POVs an equal amount, but in earlier arcs such as TNP, PO3, or OOTS, I usually loved or hated the POVs with no in between. I feel like the newer ones never end up being my favorites, but I think of them, at the very least, neutrally and never dislike them. So I wouldn't say the newer POVs are more likable, but they're less dislikable, while the older ones I have more opinions on(regardless of whether or not those opinions are good or bad). But then again, I've never reread the series and I've been reading this series since I was in elementary school, so my opinions could drastically change if I reread the series now versus what I originally thought as a kid.
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Post by Willowbreeze on Aug 3, 2022 2:00:25 GMT -5
I think they haven't changed that much, but personally I liked the original ones better.
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Post by seantheskyhunter on Aug 3, 2022 2:12:41 GMT -5
Do you like the main protagonists of the later arcs more than those of the first arcs? I personally like all the POV characters from Dawn of the Clans, A Vision of Shadows, The Broken Code and A Starless Clan so far(Gray Wing, Skystar, Thunderstar, Alderheart, Twigbranch, Violetshine, Bristlefrost, Rootspring, Shadowsight, Frostpaw, Nightheart, and Sunbeam) more than those of the first four arcs (Firestar, Bramblestar, Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Stormfur, Feathertail, Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, Dovewing, Ivypool and Flametail). Besides Jayfeather, Flametail, Ivypool and Stormfur, I didn’t enjoy the characters of the first few arcs as much as those of the cats in the later ones, honestly every single one of which I enjoyed. What about the rest of you? What do you think? floppa
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Post by BobTheHuman on Aug 3, 2022 6:24:01 GMT -5
Yes because I want to sum the votes out//
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Post by NightFrostSun on Aug 3, 2022 7:08:46 GMT -5
I voted no. I couldn't really stand the Dawn of the Clans or A Vision of Shadows protagonists. The majority of them are on my 10 least favorite characters list. The only point of view character on my 10 least favorite characters list from the first four arcs is Squirrelflight. That said I love The Broken Code and A Starless Clan protagonists especially Shadowsight, Nightheart, Frostpaw, and Rootspring.
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Post by Punkpaw on Aug 4, 2022 0:23:37 GMT -5
It's up and down.
>Fireheart was more enjoyable than just about the entire TNP protag lineup >Lionblaze and especially Dovewing are lame, but Hollyleaf was interesting enough and Jayfeather could make a good case for flat out being the best protagonist >DotC sucked ass >AVoS is very mediocre, only Violetshine is really all that interesting >TBC has the overall best balanced cast, all three of them are really solid even if they can't match Jayfeather
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Aug 4, 2022 0:36:47 GMT -5
Tbh the quality in protagonist POVs have went down after PoT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 8:36:49 GMT -5
Do you like the main protagonists of the later arcs more than those of the first arcs? I personally like all the POV characters from Dawn of the Clans, A Vision of Shadows, The Broken Code and A Starless Clan so far(Gray Wing, Skystar, Thunderstar, Alderheart, Twigbranch, Violetshine, Bristlefrost, Rootspring, Shadowsight, Frostpaw, Nightheart, and Sunbeam) more than those of the first four arcs (Firestar, Bramblestar, Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Stormfur, Feathertail, Jayfeather, Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, Dovewing, Ivypool and Flametail). Besides Jayfeather, Flametail, Ivypool and Stormfur, I didn’t enjoy the characters of the first few arcs as much as those of the cats in the later ones, honestly every single one of which I enjoyed. What about the rest of you? What do you think? floppa Yeee
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Aug 5, 2022 1:08:42 GMT -5
I’m going to rank each POV character* on a scale of 1-5 (1 being hate, 2 dislike, 3 neutral, 4 like, 5 love) and then get averages for the arcs.
TPB: Firestar (4) - Average = 4
TNP: Brambleclaw (1), Squirrelflight (5), Leafpool (4), Stormfur (2), Feathertail (5) - Average = 3.4 *Omitting Feathertail (for barely having any chapters), average = 3
PoT: Hollyleaf (5), Jayfeather (4), Lionblaze (4) - Average = 4.33
OotS: Jayfeather (4), Lionblaze (4), Dovewing (5), Ivypool (4), Flametail (1) - Average = 3.6 *Omitting Flametail (if you want to argue he didn’t really have enough chapters to count), average = 4.25
DotC: Gray Wing (4), Clear Sky (4 - I dislike him as a cat but like him as a character, so I’m still saying like for the purposes of this analysis), Thunder (3) - Average = 3.67
AVoS: Twigbranch (4), Violetshine (4), Alderheart (4) - Average = 4
TBC: Bristlefrost (4), Rootspring (4), Shadowsight (4) - Average = 4
Arcs from highest to lowest average: - PoT - OotS not including Flametail - TPB, AVoS, TBC - DotC - OotS including Flametail - TNP including Feathertail - TNP not including Feathertail
Therefore, I don’t think the POV characters have really become significantly more or less likable for me over time.
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