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Post by Flame13 on Jun 3, 2022 7:57:21 GMT -5
How old do you think barley is since he appeared in several books before into the wild including yellowfang’s secret I personally hc that he’s in his late teens early 20s but what do you guys think?
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Post by kells on Jun 3, 2022 8:09:51 GMT -5
Wait is Barley still alive???
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Post by Flame13 on Jun 3, 2022 8:47:38 GMT -5
Yep I think so
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Post by Spinestar on Jun 3, 2022 8:53:29 GMT -5
Wait is Barley still alive??? As of Graystripe’s Vow, yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 10:03:00 GMT -5
He's quite old, considering he was fully grown when he met Ravenpaw. My guess is fourteen to sixteen.
People joke about Mistystar's age, but I think Purdy also lived a super long time. He was described as elderly in Midnight, so I'm guessing that means he was at least eight years old when he met the Clan cats. He died about seven years later, putting his estimated age at about fifteen or older.
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Post by Jayie on Jun 3, 2022 11:16:33 GMT -5
In Ravenpaw’s Farewell, he mentions that he’s two leafbares older than Ravenpaw, so however many years that is.
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Post by rabbit on Jun 3, 2022 11:54:46 GMT -5
I like to think he is three to fives years old in Into the Wild.
It would make sense if he were mistyfoot’s age.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 3, 2022 12:41:53 GMT -5
for some reason i think he was 2-3 years old too rabbit
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Post by tema on Jun 3, 2022 13:13:51 GMT -5
In Ravenpaw’s Farewell, he mentions that he’s two leafbares older than Ravenpaw, so however many years that is. Assuming that's accurate, and the events timeline on the wiki is as well, let's step through this (because I'm too unfocused to mentally log everything). Ravenpaw is one greenleaf before Firestar's birth. Leaf-bare starts the year. So, he's either 2 or 3 years depending on how you define "year before." The start of River puts us at year 13 after Firestar's birth according to the same listing. Therefore, Barley's either 15 or 16 years old. Worth noting is that, using the same resource, Mistystar was 14 when she died. All of that is based off of the wiki and this comment, so take it with a grain of salt. If there's a problem with this figure, anyone's free to correct me.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jun 3, 2022 23:35:46 GMT -5
In Ravenpaw’s Farewell, he mentions that he’s two leafbares older than Ravenpaw, so however many years that is. Ravenpaw was likely born in leaf-fall (as he seems to be a fairly new apprentice when Firepaw joins in newleaf). So two leaf-bares probably means about two years older. Although I think Barley is a victim of the inconsistent timeline. He shows up as a young cat in YS, however, Tigerclaw is still a kit or apprentice, which means there's no BloodClan yet for him to flee (if you go by Pinestar's Choice, Scourge isn't even born yet). In TPB he's described as a young tom. Ravenpaw described Barley as getting old in Ravenpaw's Path #3. So who really knows his age... EDIT: The YS timeline also means he is several years older than Mistystar.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jun 4, 2022 15:47:25 GMT -5
Not sure how old Barley was as the series began but considering him still being alive during Graystripe's Vow (both the Then/Now parts) and getting referred to as ancient by the narrative, I'm thinking he might be almost twenty in cat years. All I hope is that he died peacefully not long after Graystripe left or even when he died himself so that Barley can be together with Ravenpaw again.
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Post by Sol on Jun 4, 2022 17:55:48 GMT -5
I thought he was a young cat in Into the Wild, like young warrior age
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Post by dreamingof on Jun 4, 2022 21:29:36 GMT -5
In my first read of the books, I thought he was middle-aged.
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Post by seantheskyhunter on Jun 6, 2022 14:09:21 GMT -5
I honestly tought Barley was an adult already in the 1st book. Which means he might be The oldest cat ever, probably surpased by Purdy
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Post by Bristleflight on Jun 6, 2022 16:01:22 GMT -5
He is probs around twelve.
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Post by Flamefrost on Jun 7, 2022 5:28:56 GMT -5
I think tribbleofdoom's animations made me think Barley was middle aged in TPB initially, but in rereads I've noted that he's described as much younger albeit still an adult.
It would also line up with BloodClan's timeline. He was born when BloodClan was already clearly well established in Twolegplace. This means he's substantially younger than Scourge, and Scourge is younger than Tigerstar by about a couple moons, who himself isn't considered old in canon. Wiki says he's about 6.5 years at his time of death. TPB takes place in the span of roughly two years, and Ravenpaw is already at least 6 moons old in ITW - as Dustpelt's sibling, it's likely he's slightly older than Firestar and Graystripe. In Ravenpaw's Farewell its stated that Barley is "two leafbares older" than Ravenpaw.
All in all, that checks out to Barley being slightly over 2.5 years old in ITW. He would be approx 2 year younger than Mistystar, who herself is about 2 years younger than Tigerstar (Bluestar is pregnant with her when he's a young warrior). The wiki calculated that Mistystar is 15 years in old in ASC: River.
So in conclusion, Barley is probably around 13 years old as of A Starless Clan. Old, but not unheard of, and he has the more cushy life of a barn cat.
Edit: As for his appearance in YS, I'd have to just consider it as a continuity error as it completely contradicts an otherwise pretty consistent timeline. I'll headcanon it as another barn cat.
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Post by Sol on Jun 7, 2022 23:25:38 GMT -5
I think tribbleofdoom's animations made me think Barley was middle aged in TPB initially, but in rereads I've noted that he's described as much younger albeit still an adult. It would also line up with BloodClan's timeline. He was born when BloodClan was already clearly well established in Twolegplace. This means he's substantially younger than Scourge, and Scourge is younger than Tigerstar by about a couple moons, who himself isn't considered old in canon. Wiki says he's about 6.5 years at his time of death. TPB takes place in the span of roughly two years, and Ravenpaw is already at least 6 moons old in ITW - as Dustpelt's sibling, it's likely he's slightly older than Firestar and Graystripe. In Ravenpaw's Farewell its stated that Barley is "two leafbares older" than Ravenpaw. All in all, that checks out to Barley being slightly over 2.5 years old in ITW. He would be approx 2 year younger than Mistystar, who herself is about 2 years younger than Tigerstar (Bluestar is pregnant with her when he's a young warrior). The wiki calculated that Mistystar is 15 years in old in ASC: River. So in conclusion, Barley is probably around 13 years old as of A Starless Clan. Old, but not unheard of, and he has the more cushy life of a barn cat. Edit: As for his appearance in YS, I'd have to just consider it as a continuity error as it completely contradicts an otherwise pretty consistent timeline. I'll headcanon it as another barn cat. YS has some other continuity errors so it's pretty reasonable to consider it as so (YS says that Featherwhisker is as old as Patchpelt and Leopardfoot which is very, very wrong)
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