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Post by Bristleflight on May 6, 2022 8:22:53 GMT -5
Who do you think is overrated?
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Post by Deerspirit on May 6, 2022 8:46:44 GMT -5
I voted for Squirrelflight, Alderheart, Twigbranch, Dovewing, and Scourge. I would have voted for Skystar, Graywing, Thunderstar, Needletail, and Windstar but they weren’t choices.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on May 6, 2022 9:12:29 GMT -5
Ivypool and Hollyleaf.
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Post by Bristleflight on May 6, 2022 9:37:27 GMT -5
Oh I don't think all of them are overrated but I just put characters I thought f at the moment.
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Post by rabbit on May 6, 2022 9:38:35 GMT -5
Squirrelflight or Bristlefrost. They are both pretty annoying, at least Squirrelflight is interesting with her struggles. Bristlefrost is the 2nd worst main series POV character. Light in the mist spoilers She yeeted herself into the abyss, and suddenly all her fans have come out of the woodwork. Meanwhile, I am glad I don’t have to read though another insufferable Bristlefrost chapter.
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Post by Dɾҽαɱƈʅσυԃ on May 6, 2022 10:21:09 GMT -5
I personally do not think that any of the characters are really overrated. Most of them are either popular for certain reasons or just mean something special to individual fans of them. Especially when it comes to feelings of nostalgia.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on May 6, 2022 10:57:03 GMT -5
Dovewing is close to winning?!
Anyway, I voted for Mothwing, Alderheart, Silverstream, Feathertail, and Ravenpaw.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on May 6, 2022 16:41:32 GMT -5
Mothwing
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 6, 2022 17:00:03 GMT -5
my votes: shadowsight, ivypool, squirrelflight, bristlefrost
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Post by Riverstream [hiatus] on May 7, 2022 17:20:32 GMT -5
ugh, no!! I love Silverstream, she's in first place rn!!!!!!! I mean, yes, she is a bit overrated, but she didn't deserve this!!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 18:08:52 GMT -5
Hollyleaf, Dovewing, Hawkfrost, Stonefur and Sunstar were my votes
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Post by rabbit on May 7, 2022 20:20:29 GMT -5
I'm curious why people chose Silverstream? She doesn't seem like the most popular cat so I wouldn't think she'd qualify for this list. I remember her being pretty popular when the series was only a few years old and Silverstream barely had a personality besides loving Graystripe and having a tragic death. I would say she was overrated then. But now? I don’t know.
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Post by Bristleflight on May 7, 2022 20:46:54 GMT -5
I think silverstreem feathertail spottedleaf ravenpaw Bluestar shadowsight.
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Post by Bristleflight on May 7, 2022 20:47:19 GMT -5
Oh and scourge
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Post by Bristleflight on May 7, 2022 21:16:19 GMT -5
Also how is bristlefrost overrated lots of people think she's boring? I'm not one of them but still..
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Post by *Ottersplash* on May 7, 2022 23:10:32 GMT -5
Also how is bristlefrost overrated lots of people think she's boring? I'm not one of them but still.. This forum tends to have very different views than the twitter and youtube fandom. While she's thought of as boring on here, she's well loved over there. She definitely rides the line of being overrated
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Post by tema on May 8, 2022 1:50:29 GMT -5
I voted for Squirrelflight and only her.
A lot of the fandom darlings seem to rotate out. Look at a cat like Scourge. Posterchild for late-2000s Deviantart edginess back in the day. Now? Nobody really talks about him that much (at least more than any other character) and we're probably not going to get new canon material of him for a while. Right now Bristle is in that limelight, but I really don't think she'll reach that fandom-immortality Squilf saw.
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Post by Harecatcher on May 8, 2022 8:36:26 GMT -5
You could say Squirrelflight is pretty overrated, but considering that she's constantly appearing as an important character in the books, why would they suddenly stop talking about her? It wouldn't make sense for the fandom to push her into the background.
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Post by Harecatcher on May 8, 2022 8:38:44 GMT -5
Also, why is Dovewing winning against Ivypool? Ivy has to be the most overrated of the two, imo, due to how praised and loved she is by an infinite amount of fans, while Dovewing still recives a lot more hate than her.
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Post by Bristleflight on May 8, 2022 9:20:03 GMT -5
Agreed on both your comments!
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Post by Bristleflight on May 8, 2022 9:23:12 GMT -5
Main characters are talked about because they are the pov a popular character is popular because they are well known that dousent mean they are overrated overrated means a character that doesn't do much suddenly gets a lot of attention. Like way back in the day with silverstreem who was there for two books and died. But characters like squirrelflight and bristlefrost are popular because they are pov and are very important.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 8, 2022 15:38:32 GMT -5
Squirrelflight by a long shot.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on May 8, 2022 16:44:50 GMT -5
I voted for Mapleshade, Jayfeather, Dovewing, Leafstar, and Mothwing. I hate Tigerstar II as well, but I don't think he's really overrated - he seems to get a lot of (well deserved) hate.
I feel like a lot of people really enjoy Mapleshade as a villain, and while she was great in some books (Crookedstar's Promise), she's been severely overused. She should be faded by now. We need fresh female villains, please and thank you.
I do like Jayfeathr, but I don't think he's as great as a lot of the fandom has always made him out to be? Like, he's a good character and all, but he gets put on this pedestal that I don't think is really deserved. He gets to be super annoying a lot of the time.
I'm not sure if Dovewing is really overrated or not. But she's one of those cats who's okay, but a lot of people seem to love her and I genuinely don't know why. Like, I don't hate her or anything, but I don't think she's worth the hype that she gets.
A lot of people say that Leafstar is the best leader currently and that kinda stuff. And yeah, technically that's true, but it's not because she's some great cat or great leader, but rather because all the other living leaders kinda suck (except for Harestar, but we haven't seen enough of him to know if he's decent or not). Like, she's not that great a character, nor is she that great a leader. Keep in mind she decided to leave the lake in AVOS, knowing that StarClan had already said they needed to stay or else it would cause trouble to ALL the clans, SkyClan included. She also did a whole lot of nothing for a while during TBC - she was the one they kept having to wait on to make decisions, even after she knew the truth.
I loved Mothwing for a while, but the way she acted in TBC really changed my opinion of her, so now I think she's overrated. I hope she redeems herself in ASC.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on May 8, 2022 17:05:38 GMT -5
Honestly, Firestar, at least as a character. His story was incredibly generic, and while this isn't necessarily a bad thing, it doesn't really make him all that interesting in my eyes, either. Also, Hawkwing. I don't even hate him, I just don't get why he's so well-liked. He's just... there for me.
Also, Yellowfang in the first arc (this one I can understand why, though), Ivypool, and Twigbranch.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on May 8, 2022 17:40:15 GMT -5
Keep in mind she decided to leave the lake in AVOS, knowing that StarClan had already said they needed to stay or else it would cause trouble to ALL the clans, SkyClan included. She also did a whole lot of nothing for a while during TBC - she was the one they kept having to wait on to make decisions, even after she knew the truth. To be fair, Leafstar only decided to leave after Juniperclaw tried to poison her Clan and destroyed the dens. Before that, she was doing everything she could to make sure SkyClan had a place by the lake and was even willing to fight Tigerstar on it, and the only Clan that really cared about them leaving to the point of being willing to give up territory was ThunderClan. Mistystar and Tigerstar didn't want to and the former even agreed that SkyClan was better off at the gorge, and Harestar only said he would do so if all the other Clan did so first. Even then, she didn't make her decision until afterwards. As for TBC, I feel like if Tree being a codebreaker had actually been remembered after LS, she probably would've had a slightly bigger role to play in the first half of TBC, but she wasn't completely useless either, such as essentially tricking "Bramblestar" into an ambush.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on May 8, 2022 17:57:12 GMT -5
Keep in mind she decided to leave the lake in AVOS, knowing that StarClan had already said they needed to stay or else it would cause trouble to ALL the clans, SkyClan included. She also did a whole lot of nothing for a while during TBC - she was the one they kept having to wait on to make decisions, even after she knew the truth. To be fair, Leafstar only decided to leave after Juniperclaw tried to poison her Clan and destroyed the dens. Before that, she was doing everything she could to make sure SkyClan had a place by the lake and was even willing to fight Tigerstar on it, and the only Clan that really cared about them leaving to the point of being willing to give up territory was ThunderClan. Mistystar and Tigerstar didn't want to and the former even agreed that SkyClan was better off at the gorge, and Harestar only said he would do so if all the other Clan did so first. Even then, she didn't make her decision until afterwards. As for TBC, I feel like if Tree being a codebreaker had actually been remembered after LS, she probably would've had a slightly bigger role to play in the first half of TBC, but she wasn't completely useless either, such as essentially tricking "Bramblestar" into an ambush. Oh I don't disagree with you. I understand why she left and all that. Even while it's understandable, it still wasn't a good decision. And if I remember correctly, during TBC, didn't she keep wanting to wait before making any decisions about Bramblestar/Ashfur? It took a long time for her to trick him into that ambush - and during that time, she really wasn't doing much. Again, I don't think she's a terrible character, and she is one of the best leaders currently around the lake. But I don't think she deserves all the hype that she gets.
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Post by Tiri on May 8, 2022 18:47:05 GMT -5
To be fair, Leafstar only decided to leave after Juniperclaw tried to poison her Clan and destroyed the dens. Before that, she was doing everything she could to make sure SkyClan had a place by the lake and was even willing to fight Tigerstar on it, and the only Clan that really cared about them leaving to the point of being willing to give up territory was ThunderClan. Mistystar and Tigerstar didn't want to and the former even agreed that SkyClan was better off at the gorge, and Harestar only said he would do so if all the other Clan did so first. Even then, she didn't make her decision until afterwards. As for TBC, I feel like if Tree being a codebreaker had actually been remembered after LS, she probably would've had a slightly bigger role to play in the first half of TBC, but she wasn't completely useless either, such as essentially tricking "Bramblestar" into an ambush. Oh I don't disagree with you. I understand why she left and all that. Even while it's understandable, it still wasn't a good decision. And if I remember correctly, during TBC, didn't she keep wanting to wait before making any decisions about Bramblestar/Ashfur? It took a long time for her to trick him into that ambush - and during that time, she really wasn't doing much. Again, I don't think she's a terrible character, and she is one of the best leaders currently around the lake. But I don't think she deserves all the hype that she gets. I think part of why I find Leafstar interesting is because of that caution, the slow moving decisions. Mistystar played whatever villain or ally role was easiest for the plot for quite a few arcs, but I really like how consistent Leafstar feels, if that makes sense? And the contrast between her and more go getter leaders, the way she's in the past absolutely made decisions that have humbled skyclan rather than taking risks, like in Tigerheart's shadow where she gives up prey to shedowclan. So many leaders in the past have been obsessed with their clan's pride, I like having one that's more concerned with long term consequences! But I can also see how a more introspective slow moving character, particularly one that's not always POV, might be quite boring for some people, and make Leafstar seem overrated.
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