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Post by smallfly on May 24, 2022 18:35:28 GMT -5
Yea, I think Littlefinger and Robin are just like 'I have a dad, but you're a close second' sort of thing. And the blackfish/Brynden is Catelyn's biological uncle! O: that answers my questions perfectly thank you!
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Post by smallfly on May 25, 2022 1:37:41 GMT -5
I haven't watched anymore but i completely forgot about another confusion of mine.. i thought Mace (the coin guy) was Loras and Marg's father but they called this dark haired guy with a pin the father of Loras. i think binge watching this show is causing my brain to go to mush.
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Post by smallfly on May 25, 2022 15:12:30 GMT -5
actually i do have something to say about what i watched recently it's actually more of a rant about a character pleasee tell me that the brown haired guy with the beard who Dany is currently dating goes away soon he is sooo annoying i can't stand his arrogance i don't want him to die because he seems like a nice guy but that personality type just grates under my skin sooo much.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 25, 2022 16:01:14 GMT -5
actually i do have something to say about what i watched recently it's actually more of a rant about a character pleasee tell me that the brown haired guy with the beard who Dany is currently dating goes away soon he is sooo annoying i can't stand his arrogance i don't want him to die because he seems like a nice guy but that personality type just grates under my skin sooo much. is this a rhetorical question or do you want an actual answer
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Post by smallfly on May 25, 2022 16:16:30 GMT -5
actually i do have something to say about what i watched recently it's actually more of a rant about a character pleasee tell me that the brown haired guy with the beard who Dany is currently dating goes away soon he is sooo annoying i can't stand his arrogance i don't want him to die because he seems like a nice guy but that personality type just grates under my skin sooo much. is this a rhetorical question or do you want an actual answer it's rhetorical, i have a feeling he'll probably get killed off eventually though.
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Post by smallfly on May 26, 2022 18:39:13 GMT -5
I'm almost done with season 6 but i have stuff to say spoilers ahead. LORD EDMURE IS ALIVEEE!!!! i can't believe it i thought he died at the red wedding. thank god Arya's annoying storyline is almost over and i never have to see that annoying girl again...i have a theory though and maybe this isn't a theory and it was pointed out by subtle meanings that i missed but here goes...i think that Arya and the annoying girl were actually the same person and the annoying girl was the baggage that Arya was carrying around and she had to kill her to truly become no one like when the annoying girl was trying to kill her, it was really her two sides fighting each other. another terrible father has entered the table Sam's dad whose name i can't be bothered to remember but i don't like him at all he can join the crap father golf team along with Balon and Twyin. Sam continues to be one of the best characters ever this guy is so kind and caring...Gilly is great too i love how she stood up for him they are one of the best if not the best couple in the show. the next episode is called Battle of the Bastards which i'm guessing is a fight between Jon and Ramsay and i'm soooo excited to see Jon kill Ramsay but if it's the other way around and Ramsay kills Jon it won't be as satisfying but it'll make for good drama. the skeletons are sooo funny they kill me dead from laughter with the noises they make and the way they move i love it. Sandor Clegane (the Hound) another character that was thought dead is also alive....i hope by the season finale all the presumed dead people turn out not to be dead that would be like....what? but anyway i liked him in these episodes it showed his compassionate side or maybe compassionate isn't the right word for it? but he was angry on behalf of another person anyway i also loved the part where he got frustrated that he couldn't hack those guys it seemed a bit comedic and comedy is needed in a heavy show like this. i loveeee Grandma Tyrell! she is so sassy and cool also it seems like Mace is the father of Marg and Loras again? he said my children but a few episodes ago... my mind just went "maybe they have two dads" but that wouldn't fly in that society esp not right now. what i think that happened was i misheard Lancel as Loras but Lancel isn't in jail so idk why they'd be talking about him but maybe they were talking about how he's with the high sparrow and involved in that whole group. i have a headache so that's all i'll write but i'll write more once i finish season 6.
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Post by smallfly on May 27, 2022 10:52:56 GMT -5
I finished season 6 THEY KILLED OFF MARG!!! also Loras, Mace, Rickon, Tommen, Ramsay lmao, and some other people. Rickon's death was kinda terrible..it was a great death for someone who only appeared a handful of times and we didn't really get to know and it was pretty dramatic but him just lying there dead while more arrows are coming down is just sad and terrible. it's kind of funny how they killed off the oldest and the youngest sibling. it seems like Jon Snow isn't actually Ned's son but the son of Ned's sister which means that he was raised and treated like a bastard and hated for almost his whole life by Catelyn and he wasn't even what they were saying? poor guy. it was refreshing to see a group of guys who talked about something other than vulgar stuff about women. something about this show is that it seems like it's a bunch of different shows under the same universe and whenever different sides come together like the evil fire lady showing up in Meereen seemed like a crossover episode but it's cool there's never a dull moment. Ser Davos and Sam continue to be the best characters i loved the scene where Davos confronts the evil fire lady about killing Shireen. Arya seems a bit...how can i say this nicely....deranged. i fully understand that she's pissed off but she cooked two guys fed them to their father and laughed then she poisoned a whole room of people and then laughed i kind of love this side of her and i'm living for it. i loved the scene where they all thought they were going to lose but then the knights of the vale rode in all epically and they won the battle. Baelish is sooooooooooooooooooo creepy though i liked him at first because i admired how intelligent and manipulative he is and how he managed to make a whole name for himself but his creep factor is dialled up to 11 and if he dies i won't be too upset. like EW he was in love with Catelyn now he's going for her daughter GROSS! i look forward to seeing how this all turns out.
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on May 27, 2022 12:52:17 GMT -5
Reading through these is bringing back all the hype I had for this show lol I remember how excited I got every time a new episode would air.
Davos yelling at Melisandre abt Shireen was probably the most emotional moment in the whole show for me like the actor did an amazing job with his voice and how absolutely heartbroken he looked I'm still not over it.
The Battle of the Bastards is a favorite episode of mine, I've watched that one individually a bunch of times. Strategically it's kind of a mess cause the "battle" itself wasn't exactly well thought out but it's got so much good narrative tension and like the mounting desperation rlly gets to the viewer. Also I have a hard time being happy a character died, even if that character was awful (was able to find some pity in my heart even for people like Joffrey and Viserys, who were certainly monsters), but the one character whose death I was absolutely "oh you entirely deserved that" about was Ramsay.
The Sept explosion was a weird scene bc when I think about it I mostly think about how great the cinematography was? Like the way the scene flashes between people and everything starts feeling more anxious and claustrophobic, the soundtrack was completely on point, it was terrible but like great attention to artistic detail lol
Season six was an entertaining time.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 27, 2022 14:45:54 GMT -5
RIP my girl Margaery
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Post by smallfly on May 27, 2022 21:07:27 GMT -5
i'm on season 7 episode 5 i love this season so far. everyone was reunited and the cgi makes it where i don't want to look away. Bran being pretty much dead is something i don't love so much about this season though oh and the horse part. i'm kind of leaning towards either Davos or Sansa but i feel like they'd both have a hard time getting people to listen to them maybe even if they did team up...i can imagine it now them standing in front of the people and trying to tell their story and them someone bringing something up about their presumed horrid past and then mob mentality and then they're both taken to prison. Grandma Tyrell's death was my favourite so far but it's kinda sucks she won't be in the show anymore...unless she comes back as a white walker! what if all the people who died came back as white walkers? i hope Sam comes back as a white walker. i know he's not going to live he has everything going great for him i bet he dies in some dramatic way maybe being stabbed by saving Jon or something and Jon will be crying over his dying body and saying, "noo i should have died a long time ago you shouldn't have given your life for mine." or maybe he'll catch gray scale from when he saved Jorah. i don't have anything else to say rn.
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Post by smallfly on May 31, 2022 3:33:25 GMT -5
i haven't watched any more of the show but i'm going to start reading the book tomorrow.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 5, 2022 14:00:52 GMT -5
i haven't started the book yet life has gotten in the way but i did watch episode 5 of season 7 and i started watching episode 6 though but i had to stop it because i got annoyed. this is what annoyed me... Arya not looking at Sansa when she was talking to her! i hate when movies make people talk without looking at each other it annoys me soooo much irl when people do that and on tv it's even worse!! she is really annoying me this episode as a whole. she and Dany both are scary af. other than that Sam is the best character and i can't wait to read about him in the books.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 5, 2022 20:02:01 GMT -5
i finished season 7, there were only 7 episodes and i looked and season 8 only has 6 that's a bit of a let down. i can't believe just 6 more episodes and it's all over at least i have the books to look forward to.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 9, 2022 21:25:23 GMT -5
i watched a few episodes of season 8, i'm actually still really enjoying this show. i don't know if it's because seeing all these people being so miserable makes me feel better about my own life and it gives me hope but this show makes me so happy and it makes me forget all my worries i know it probably sounds weird but to me this show is like dopamine for the mind and the soul. now onto the spoilers does anyone else think that the white walker leader kind of looks like Tywin? omg they killed Baelish!! even though he was a creep i was a bit sad about that because he was super interesting. i like how it all turned out regarding Sansa and Arya though. all of season 8 has been enjoyable so far but one of the best parts is Pod's major glow up not only that, but he can SING!! and he does it so beautifully too. i can't believe Cersei is pregnant, speaking of Cersei for 7 seasons i thought her name was pronounced like ser-say not ser-see but in season 8 i kept noticing that the other characters kept saying ser-see and it was a wait..what? moment. because had i just watched 67 episodes of a show and just realised that her name was pronounced differently than what i thought? but i have a theory that she might marry Euron so she can pretend the baby is his, but she also doesn't seem to care that anyone knows about her and Jaime either. there's also the fact that there's not that many episodes so maybe they'll all just perish in the battle. it's enjoyable how everyone's been teaming up together to fight the main bad guys but doesn't it feel like the tone of the show shifted a little? like originally it seemed like a political drama/slight horror sort of show, now it seems like a fantasy/adventure show and maybe it's because i've seen over 7 seasons so i'm more desensitized to the stuff but it seems a bit less mature than earlier seasons. whatever it is i still love it and i'm super sad it's going to be over soon but at least there's the books to look forward to. what happened to the brown haired guy who was dating Dany? i know he got left behind but he's just gone now and he didn't even die, i'm shocked i was fully expecting him to have some dramatic death, he seemed a bit important, the show isn't over though so he could still come back and die. i think his name might be Daario actually if i'm not mistaken? so when Arya got nuclear revenge on the Walder family i wonder if she freed Edmure? i hope he's ok. like ever since that scene where he failed to shoot an arrow into the boat...i can only imagine how terrible he must have felt...it gave me a soft spot in my heart for him. it seems like the ultimate showdown for the iron throne is going to be between Dany and Jon? i feel like Cersei is just off in her own little world or something even though she's currently wearing the crown and sitting on it i don't see her being a true contender at all. if that is the case and it is those two then my vote is going to Jon. wouldn't it be so cool if he became the king and made Sam his maester? or even his hand? or both!?! however i don't think he'd want the iron throne so if that's the case then i wouldn't want him to be stuck in a position he doesn't want but the alternative is terrifying. i know she's a favourite among fans and she has some good policies but she'll get a dragon to crunch or burn just like that and there's no escape. one thing that i really really dislike about this show is what they did with Jaime even after the Bran thing i think he could have been redeemed but in another scene he's in that makes him a very bad guy and there's no redeeming that. he could have been a great character and a favourite but no. they keep trying to make him likable but no. another thing is that he and Cersei were talking about how they only cared about each other and how that they were the only ones who mattered and what not when Tommen was still alive. but that's not near as bad as the other two things. that's all i can think to say at the moment.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 12, 2022 19:09:12 GMT -5
i finished season 7 episode 3, i was going to continue the rest of the show, but this episode was really intense... THEY KILLED OFF THEON!! I'M SOOOO SADDDD!! ik i said i wanted him to die like two or three times before, but he had sooo much character growth/change and he was just starting to heal only to be killed. Jorah also died after he was cured of grey scale which is sad too, i think all the Marmots are gone now since Mildred was also killed. i loved the evil fire lady's death, but i'm a bit sad she won't be in the show anymore, she was soooo pretty! and her powers were soo cool, i loved that scene where she lit all the scythes on fire. Arya was really likeable in this episode, i like how she didn't leave the Eye-patch guy behind. i think his name is Beric? the fact that the dragon who turned into a white walker was the one who was named after Dany's jerk brother is hilarious to me. i'm a bit sad that i didn't see any of the former alive dead people as white walkers, like Ramsay Bolton, Walder Frey, Baelish, Joffrey, Ygritte, Robb, Catelyn, etc as white walkers. i have a theory, the white walker leader was a Targaryen and that's why he wasn't burned by the fire. i'm pretty sure i saw Edmure among the crowd, i tried taking a screenshot to confirm but it just turned black but i'm about 65% sure it was him. hopefully the next episode will have more Cersei scenes the episodes seem kinda dull without her but still really good, she adds to it though. i'm really glad that Sam, Davos, Pod, Brienne, and all those other people survived, i was kind of hoping that the original Bran would come back after they defeated the dead people though, because the three eyed raven having fulfilled their purpose, but maybe they have more purpose to fulfil. i'm excited to see how this ends but a little bit afraid as well, i have the feeling that it's to leave me feeling a bit unsatisfied...like...that's it? and that there will be loads of questions unanswered, but i hope they at least try tying everything together in the end.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 14, 2022 17:10:50 GMT -5
i haven't watched anymore yet because i'm still angry about Theon but i have a theory on how i think this show is going to end, and then an idea for a spin-off. i think it's going to end with everyone dying in the end, but then the last episode will take place in modern times, where it shows someone finding the cure for white walkers in a giant lab and then the white walkers they bring back to life are the GOT people who all died. my spin-off idea is that after they're brought back to life, they have to learn how to live in the modern world, and things will also be explained like how the modern people discovered the white walker cure, and how they knew about them to begin with. my spin-off idea is a joke that i thought was funny so i decided to share.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 15, 2022 10:48:53 GMT -5
i can't stop thinking about that cake from season 3? it still boggles my mind that they had LIVE BIRDS inside a cake! not only those poor birds but ewww i can imagine being trapped inside a cake they must have been pretty scared and you know what happens when birds get scared. i think that part will live in my mind forever because of how shocking it was.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 16, 2022 15:12:52 GMT -5
i watched the next episode. this show loves pissin me off i s2g. it's still great but AHHHHHHHH WHy!?! whyyy did they kill off Varys? he was like one of the most pure hearted and intelligent people on the show, he just wanted to do what was best for the people, he should have been the ruler. he and Sansa seemed to be the only ones with a brain in this episode, and now he's gone. i can't STAND Dany but i think the show is doing this on purpose, and i like that, it's different from what i've seen before. there are people who are aware that she's a bit of a loose canon, and it's good that she's not all good, selfless, and jut all these positive qualities, because that would be a bit boring, i'll like her as a character for the show if she doesn't end up being leader, but i don't really like her as a person. i wonder if that Dorne girl is still alive or if she's died yet? just 2 episodes left.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 21, 2022 10:04:11 GMT -5
i finished it!!!! the ending was amazing, i could not have hoped for more, it was bittersweet, most of the loose ends were tied up (i'm still wondering what happened to Daario), a lot of the characters got good endings, i got to see Edmure again, everything that i wanted to happen in terms of leadership basically happened. when Dany stabbed Jon, i thought the dragon was going to roast him and then go on a rampage, killing the rest of the town, and i thought the ending would just be everyone dying in the end, and tbh i would have been alright with that, but i like this ending much better. overall i rate this show a 9.8/10, i'm taking a point off for all the dramatic talking scenes, they were okay but they didn't hold my interest for long, and the death of Theon, i was going to knock off points for the deaths of other characters like Shireen and Euron, but Shireen's death had a purpose in the story, and Euron's was pretty funny, it was very anti-climatic, and i didn't really see the point of him dying because he didn't seem like that big of a threat, but i appreciate that even in his final moments he was still optimistic. Euron's great, i know he's a bad guy but he's so optimistic and just happy all the time, it's like he can see the bright side of anything and i love that. i laughed almost in every scene he was in, the best comedic relief of this show. okay so while a lot of death's on the show made sense to me, Theon's didn't. he went through the biggest character change of anyone in the show, he was good, then bad, then good again, and he survived so much, and yeah he did die in a heroic way, and he did escape death a lot, but i just didn't like it, it's like he survived all these odds only to just vanish out of existence after a brief scene of Sansa crying over his body, and even though he died protecting Bran and was basically a part of the family, he's never mentioned again, but i guess that's not as bad as poor Rickon who was also part of the family, and never betrayed them, and he was just forgotten about but tbf i forgot about him too. that's all i have to say right now, if you have any questions or anything or would like to share your own thoughts on the ending, then i'd love to hear them.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jun 21, 2022 10:45:19 GMT -5
interesting! i have to say that your opinion on the ending is definitely unpopular, haha. most people hated the last few episodes and felt like it trashed the story arcs that the previous 7 seasons had built up. so it's a little surprising that you liked it and felt it tied up loose ends.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 21, 2022 10:57:10 GMT -5
interesting! i have to say that your opinion on the ending is definitely unpopular, haha. most people hated the last few episodes and felt like it trashed the story arcs that the previous 7 seasons had built up. so it's a little surprising that you liked it and felt it tied up loose ends. yeah haha, i think it's probably due to my lack of awareness for things that a lot of other people notice. i started watching these all the errors in the seasons of GOT, it's has like videos for seasons 5-8, and they pointed out things that i didn't even realise, like how the characters tended to teleport from one location to another. i guess i also didn't think too deeply about the story arcs either, there were some parts that i didn't like much but it didn't ruin the show for me at all, the moments that made me happy and interested far outweighed the moments that made me angry and bored. i saw some of your thoughts son the overall show when i first made this thread, but what were your thoughts on the finale?
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Post by smallfly on Jun 21, 2022 11:08:17 GMT -5
oh another thing that is kind of a negative but not really is some of the nicknames Bran the Broken and Littlefinger just seem like mean names to call someone, and i'm pretty sure Littlefinger has all of his fingers and they're all the same length, so i don't understand his nickname much at all.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jun 21, 2022 11:55:03 GMT -5
To answer your non-question, IIRC, Petyr Baelish got his nickname "Littlefinger" because he was originally a very minor lord with minimal land in the region known as "the Fingers".
There's more than a few good videos out there that explain why the finale was disappointing (Cosmonaut Variety has a good one). But the basic gist is that the head show writers ran out of canon book material halfway through the show, and that caused problems.
Most people's anger lies in what happened to Daenerys, but my personal peeve is with what they did to Jaime. His whole arc was him kinda re-discovering his honor, recognizing what a toxic person Cersei is, and distancing himself from her. The best example was that whole scene with Brienne in the baths after his capture where he explains with much pain how he killed the Mad King and sacrificed his honorable reputation in order to save the common people of King's Landing. He struggled with that burden (killing his own king) for much of the show and clearly showed a desire to regain his honor. And gradually recognized that honor and Cersei were not compatible. Brienne was the anti-Cersei and his role model.
But then at the very end he's like "Lol i dont care if everyone dies horribly bc of my sister, sux 2 be them, im going back to Cersei, bye Brienne" and then dies. Like all his character development and soul-searching of 8 seasons straight down the drain.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 21, 2022 12:22:08 GMT -5
Saint Ambrosefooh yeah, i can see why Jaime's character ending would make people upset, especially since they spent all that time building his character change, the way i saw i though was that it fit with his personality that i'd seen throughout the series, most of the time he seemed to be about him and Cersei, and there were times when he seemed like he was becoming a better person, then he'd be sucked in by Cersei again, so it really wasn't surprising or disappointing to me. thanks for explaining about how Baelish got his nickname, it makes a lot of sense.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jun 21, 2022 13:05:36 GMT -5
Apparently the actor tried to portray Jaime as no longer being in love with Cersei regardless of the script. My main issue with the ending overall is that people throw Ramsay's quote about the happy ending when literally it was a happy ending. For the Starks. Which a good deal of the fandom likes. Despite the fact that their actions should have brought the end of their entire house. It's unfortunate that the only major house I dislike got an entirely good ending. Lannisters declined in writing, Targaryen is in exile with the most infuriating person being heir, Tyrell and Martell are gone.
What also frustrates me is that all the political intrigue amounted to nothing. Build up for nothing.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 21, 2022 13:35:39 GMT -5
Apparently the actor tried to portray Jaime as no longer being in love with Cersei regardless of the script. My main issue with the ending overall is that people throw Ramsay's quote about the happy ending when literally it was a happy ending. For the Starks. Which a good deal of the fandom likes. Despite the fact that their actions should have brought the end of their entire house. It's unfortunate that the only major house I dislike got an entirely good ending. Lannisters declined in writing, Targaryen is in exile with the most infuriating person being heir, Tyrell and Martell are gone.
What also frustrates me is that all the political intrigue amounted to nothing. Build up for nothing. what was his quote again? also, you dislike the Starks? why? i love hearing differences of opinions and stuff, and i can see no reason to dislike them, so i'm curious why you do.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jun 21, 2022 13:50:39 GMT -5
Apparently the actor tried to portray Jaime as no longer being in love with Cersei regardless of the script. My main issue with the ending overall is that people throw Ramsay's quote about the happy ending when literally it was a happy ending. For the Starks. Which a good deal of the fandom likes. Despite the fact that their actions should have brought the end of their entire house. It's unfortunate that the only major house I dislike got an entirely good ending. Lannisters declined in writing, Targaryen is in exile with the most infuriating person being heir, Tyrell and Martell are gone.
What also frustrates me is that all the political intrigue amounted to nothing. Build up for nothing. what was his quote again? also, you dislike the Starks? why? i love hearing differences of opinions and stuff, and i can see no reason to dislike them, so i'm curious why you do. I think it was something along the lines of "If you were thinking this was going to have a happy ending, you weren't paying attention."
I dislike the Starks because I feel like the horrible things that happened are direct consequences of their actions. I understand their position in the story as the righteous underdog but I think it was played on the dull side. I get that if they didn't make the moves, we wouldn't have had the events but I think out of all the houses that fell, House Stark was most deserving of this end result. (Marg could have lived if she was able to escape in time. Heavy on could.) I could complain about plot armor, but I think almost every character I relatively liked received some.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 21, 2022 14:24:25 GMT -5
what was his quote again? also, you dislike the Starks? why? i love hearing differences of opinions and stuff, and i can see no reason to dislike them, so i'm curious why you do. I think it was something along the lines of "If you were thinking this was going to have a happy ending, you weren't paying attention."
I dislike the Starks because I feel like the horrible things that happened are direct consequences of their actions. I understand their position in the story as the righteous underdog but I think it was played on the dull side. I get that if they didn't make the moves, we wouldn't have had the events but I think out of all the houses that fell, House Stark was most deserving of this end result. (Marg could have lived if she was able to escape in time. Heavy on could.) I could complain about plot armor, but I think almost every character I relatively liked received some. thanks. i understand your perspective, thanks for taking the time to respond! who was your favourite house?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jun 22, 2022 11:44:02 GMT -5
I think it was something along the lines of "If you were thinking this was going to have a happy ending, you weren't paying attention."
I dislike the Starks because I feel like the horrible things that happened are direct consequences of their actions. I understand their position in the story as the righteous underdog but I think it was played on the dull side. I get that if they didn't make the moves, we wouldn't have had the events but I think out of all the houses that fell, House Stark was most deserving of this end result. (Marg could have lived if she was able to escape in time. Heavy on could.) I could complain about plot armor, but I think almost every character I relatively liked received some. thanks. i understand your perspective, thanks for taking the time to respond! who was your favourite house? Top three are Lannisters, Targaryen, and Tyrell. I can't pick and I tried.
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Post by smallfly on Jun 22, 2022 12:00:37 GMT -5
thanks. i understand your perspective, thanks for taking the time to respond! who was your favourite house? Top three are Lannisters, Targaryen, and Tyrell. I can't pick and I tried. i love the Tyrells! the Lannisters had some of the most entertaining characters so they were pretty cool too. my top 3 are probably the Tyrells, Greyjoys, and i think maybe the Tulleys? they have Edmure and i love their clothes/sigil, but they also had Catelyn, Lysa, and the Blackfish guy. House Arryn might be a contender for 3rd as well, their sigil is cool, the moon door is interesting, i like how they're relevant but not one of the main houses, and House Arryn is one of the houses i feel drawn to along with House Greyjoy. the reason it's listed lower is because with the Greyjoys i could watch a whole series about them and it'd probably keep my interest and with House Arryn I'm not sure.
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