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Post by plaggy on Mar 30, 2022 14:26:27 GMT -5
Some parts of the country the lastest WOF has been released earlier. And it has been not receive well well by a couple of fans. If you follow the link (with spoilers) it explains that the book has heavy topics not suitable for children and depictions that could be consider offensive. I think people should really check the link if you get triggered easily or have children who read the books. www.deviantart.com/justspillingcoldtea/journal/Trigger-And-Content-Warning-for-WoF-Book-Fifteen-911262764I did not write the post from Deviantart. |
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 30, 2022 17:01:01 GMT -5
Thanks for this!
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Post by Tealraven on Mar 30, 2022 20:44:29 GMT -5
I'm unsure how seriously I should take this but if any of it is true then what the hell tui
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 3:32:34 GMT -5
What.The.Hell
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Post by ✦ GreatSwiftFoxz太阳的✦ on Mar 31, 2022 6:17:40 GMT -5
Thank you!
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Post by crowspirit on Apr 1, 2022 8:32:24 GMT -5
I talked to a person on Tumblr who read this book as well, and they stated that most things this person said was massively blown out of proportion. These are massive spoilers, but they stated: We get a long flashback that details the Scorching, where it is revealed that the Scorching started when humans started stealing large amounts of dragon eggs in order to tame them. It’s implied that these dragonets die soon after hatching and that humans tried many violent things to try and fail to tame them, but we only see this actually described with one dragonet where it is prodded and ensnared after hatching. I did not see mention of ever breeding dragons in this section.
-We get scenes of the main human villain testing the BoE on humans and animals.
-All of the humans are poc, including the main villain. The descriptions of them wearing feathers in their hair and so on is true.
-As a nonbinary person I found the nonbinary character delightful. They are new to speaking Dragon which is used for comedic effect sometimes, but the same would have been done with any human regardless of gender. I believe Wren’s friend in book 14 was similar. I saw no issue with them while reading personally.
-One of the dragonets from the Scorching is linked up to the core of the BoE alongside the main human villain. We don’t see what exactly he did to her, but we see the horrific aftermath of the BoE being intertwined with their corpses. In order to defeat the othermind Luna has to sever the BoE vines on them. At first she only breaks the one connected to the human, because Luna felt sorry for the dragonet who really never did anything wrong and ended up helping them. But the othermind will continue living through the dragonet, who asks Luna to break the vine connecting to her too. All that is described is Luna cutting through a vine, and then their corpses crumble to dust. So it seems like that even though this book handles some heavy themes, it's way more nuanced and not at bad as the original poster made it out to be. |
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Post by Tealraven on Apr 1, 2022 11:16:18 GMT -5
Thank you, crowspirit. I greatly appreciate trigger warnings, but what was described sounded extreme and frankly way out of character for both the author and the standard the books have set thus far, so I was skeptical. It does seem a bit intense for the young target audience, though. |
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 1, 2022 12:52:05 GMT -5
I talked to a person on Tumblr who read this book as well, and they stated that most things this person said was massively blown out of proportion. These are massive spoilers, but they stated: We get a long flashback that details the Scorching, where it is revealed that the Scorching started when humans started stealing large amounts of dragon eggs in order to tame them. It’s implied that these dragonets die soon after hatching and that humans tried many violent things to try and fail to tame them, but we only see this actually described with one dragonet where it is prodded and ensnared after hatching. I did not see mention of ever breeding dragons in this section.
-We get scenes of the main human villain testing the BoE on humans and animals.
-All of the humans are poc, including the main villain. The descriptions of them wearing feathers in their hair and so on is true.
-As a nonbinary person I found the nonbinary character delightful. They are new to speaking Dragon which is used for comedic effect sometimes, but the same would have been done with any human regardless of gender. I believe Wren’s friend in book 14 was similar. I saw no issue with them while reading personally.
-One of the dragonets from the Scorching is linked up to the core of the BoE alongside the main human villain. We don’t see what exactly he did to her, but we see the horrific aftermath of the BoE being intertwined with their corpses. In order to defeat the othermind Luna has to sever the BoE vines on them. At first she only breaks the one connected to the human, because Luna felt sorry for the dragonet who really never did anything wrong and ended up helping them. But the othermind will continue living through the dragonet, who asks Luna to break the vine connecting to her too. All that is described is Luna cutting through a vine, and then their corpses crumble to dust. So it seems like that even though this book handles some heavy themes, it's way more nuanced and not at bad as the original poster made it out to be. And this is precisely why I always encourage actually experiencing something for yourself if you're going to judge it first, especially if it's something like early spoilers since only certain people will actually have access to those before the official release. Either way, thanks for providing context! |
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 1, 2022 14:03:24 GMT -5
I already have the book, but haven't read it yet. Thanks for the warning.
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Post by crowspirit on Apr 1, 2022 14:35:30 GMT -5
Thank you, crowspirit. I greatly appreciate trigger warnings, but what was described sounded extreme and frankly way out of character for both the author and the standard the books have set thus far, so I was skeptical. It does seem a bit intense for the young target audience, though. I agree that it's a bit intense, however, we've already had Scarlet biting a humanʼs head off, Burn brutally murdering Hvitur in the very first chapter, Albatrossʼ murder spree (which made even me feel a little sick when Fathom and Indigo hid, listening to the screams for hours), ARCTIC and humans literally sacrificing their children to dragons. This book doesn't seem to be any worse in this regard. |
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 1, 2022 15:25:06 GMT -5
Thank you, crowspirit. I greatly appreciate trigger warnings, but what was described sounded extreme and frankly way out of character for both the author and the standard the books have set thus far, so I was skeptical. It does seem a bit intense for the young target audience, though. I agree that it's a bit intense, however, we've already had Scarlet biting a humanʼs head off, Burn brutally murdering Hvitur in the very first chapter, Albatrossʼ murder spree (which made even me feel a little sick when Fathom and Indigo hid, listening to the screams for hours), ARCTIC and humans literally sacrificing their children to dragons. This book doesn't seem to be any worse in this regard. Yeah, this is exactly why I thought they were exaggerating when they mentioned the experiments. I mean, this series' first death was literally that of an unborn (well, unhatched) baby! Tui delving into more graphic things shouldn't really be that surprising. The way the post is worded makes it sound like it's unique to only this one book when it very clearly isn't. I guess you could argue that there are some lines you shouldn't cross, but if the experiments are being condemned anyway (and I don't see why they wouldn't be, especially considering we already had something kinda similar with Mastermind in the first arc), then I don't see the issue. WoF isn't without its faults, but this doesn't seem to be one of them. But who knows, maybe my mind will change when I actually read the thing. |
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Post by Tealraven on Apr 1, 2022 16:35:00 GMT -5
I will reserve judgment until I actually read the book for myself, but genetic experimentation and mutilation tends to be a little more hardcore than your typical fantasy violence -- especially if, judging by that person's comment, this equivalent of a child has literally been kept alive for thousands of years for the sole purpose of being tortured/experimented on by an adult. I suppose it all depends on how much of it is described in detail. It might be hard for younger kids to deal with. I only say this because, as a 9 yo reading Warriors for the first time, there were some pretty graphic scenes that I found disturbing at that age, so my concern is framed by my own experiences. I was a pretty sensitive child, though. Obviously, YMMV. |
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