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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 15, 2022 14:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 15, 2022 14:40:08 GMT -5
"and they may end up causing more pain than Ashfur ever could on his own" what could that mean? Perhaps it means that the Clans now questioning the code and their ancestors more than before due to how Ashfur was able to manipulate the former and temporarily got rid of the latter by making them unable to communicate with the living Clans could lead to more mistrust and thus potential conflicts because of it in the upcoming arc.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 15, 2022 14:42:23 GMT -5
"but with tragedy poised to strike RiverClan" woohoo! Mistystar better die soon based on this wording alone. Bonus points if Reedwhisker and Mothwing perish with her.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 15, 2022 17:16:10 GMT -5
Super hyped for this! MOre destruction usually means a more interesting plot, especially with the questioning of ancestors and all.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Mar 16, 2022 9:12:26 GMT -5
"Rootspring weighed down by grief and loss"
Aw, poor Rootspring. I hope he recovers one day.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Mar 16, 2022 9:58:23 GMT -5
This was a good article, I can't believe ASC River is less than a month away! ^w^ I can't wait to see Root and Shadow again as well
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 16, 2022 10:12:13 GMT -5
I think my main problem with TBC, narratively, is kinda highlighted in this article. There's a lot of suggesting that these problems are brand new, unexplored territory for the clans, but there's already been numerous precedents already set many books prior. Challenging a clan leader's rule? We had that with Brokenstar, Onestar, Bluestar, even Leafstar to some degree. Leaving your birth clan for your mate/family? Graystripe and Dovewing.
It's just kinda strange to me that TBC and ASC poise these as unprecedented issues that need special warrior code changes to fix, when cats have managed just fine in the past without such mechanisms. Re-reading the original arc made me realize that clan cats used to be much more ready to bend the code here and there where they felt justified, but recently the clans have been portrayed as fanatically devoted to ridiculous extremes. It feels very contrived.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Mar 16, 2022 10:55:59 GMT -5
I think my main problem with TBC, narratively, is kinda highlighted in this article. There's a lot of suggesting that these problems are brand new, unexplored territory for the clans, but there's already been numerous precedents already set many books prior. Challenging a clan leader's rule? We had that with Brokenstar, Onestar, Bluestar, even Leafstar to some degree. Leaving your birth clan for your mate/family? Graystripe and Dovewing. It's just kinda strange to me that TBC and ASC poise these as unprecedented issues that need special warrior code changes to fix, when cats have managed just fine in the past without such mechanisms. Re-reading the original arc made me realize that clan cats used to be much more ready to bend the code here and there where they felt justified, but recently the clans have been portrayed as fanatically devoted to ridiculous extremes. It feels very contrived. this is what contributed majorly to me not enjoying TBC, and AVoS to some degree. feels like their deliberately reverting the clans to back to being stricter with the code, more warlike and hating eachother and being at each other’s throats more, and overall more hostile. And completely backtracking all the progress made from the first 4 Arcs. With them becoming much more diplomatic and able to depend on another, and treating eachother like sworn enemies. Not to say that they were ever buddy buddies, but seems their intentionally making up crap to make them more hostile and distrusting of eachother again, and treating it likes it a unprecedented phenomena that’s brand new, when in reality it isn’t.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 16, 2022 11:22:04 GMT -5
My hearts aflutter. Does this mean Tigerstar II will finally potentially be impeached out of office? It’s wishful thinking, but I’m all a tingle fantasizing about that notion. Plus we know that some members are displeased with the obvious nepotism and favoritism etc from Thornclaw’s speech in Darkness Within(there’s probably others I’d reckon as well). And with Tigerheart practically being grandfathered into his position, and not earned by any of his own merit or commendable achievements he’s accomplished on his own accord that would accredit him as suitable for leader. And with Tigerheart already been shown giving conspicuous special treatment and extra favor to his family above his clanmates, wonder if that could potentially be the discontent humming under the surface. And with the glimpse into Lightleap’s upcoming character arc, and being predisposed to be causing mayhem of some sort, I wonder if Tigerheart will let Her off scotch-free for whatever trouble she stirs up, which subsequently causes the Clan to uprise and push for him to be demoted down, and with Sunbeam being Lightleap’s friend and apparently being caught in the middle of shadowclans problems, it would be interesting to see her torn between siding with lightleap and her father or her clan. Doubt that would ever come to fruition with the authors favoritism for Tigerheart. But by golly would it a rapturous occasion if it did. That’s going to be my new fever dream. While I would be overjoyed if Tigerstar II either gets demoted or dies in ASC (I want to see either Cloverfoot as leader or have Sunbeam be developed into one during the course of the new arc), there is definitely some favoritism towards him from the writing team and also the editors so who knows what might happen. Although he was not even the current leader most fans want to see get demoted or dead. That, at least according to these days rather large parts of the fandom, would be Bramblestar who some people still claim has favoritsm from the authors and while it may be true for Cherith, Kate has made her negative opinion about him very clear. Then again, it's up to the editors and Harper Collins how Bramblestar's story will continue and eventually end, not the writers. I'm actually hoping that most modern leaders will die in the upcoming arc (this includes Mistystar, Leafstar, Bramblestar and Tigerstar but Harestar better make it a while longer). But I guess we'll find out over the course of these next three years filled with ASC books.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 16, 2022 15:47:34 GMT -5
I think my main problem with TBC, narratively, is kinda highlighted in this article. There's a lot of suggesting that these problems are brand new, unexplored territory for the clans, but there's already been numerous precedents already set many books prior. Challenging a clan leader's rule? We had that with Brokenstar, Onestar, Bluestar, even Leafstar to some degree. Leaving your birth clan for your mate/family? Graystripe and Dovewing. It's just kinda strange to me that TBC and ASC poise these as unprecedented issues that need special warrior code changes to fix, when cats have managed just fine in the past without such mechanisms. Re-reading the original arc made me realize that clan cats used to be much more ready to bend the code here and there where they felt justified, but recently the clans have been portrayed as fanatically devoted to ridiculous extremes. It feels very contrived. this is what contributed majorly to me not enjoying TBC, and AVoS to some degree. feels like their deliberately reverting the clans to back to being stricter with the code, more warlike and hating eachother and being at each other’s throats more, and overall more hostile. And completely backtracking all the progress made from the first 4 Arcs. With them becoming much more diplomatic and able to depend on another, and treating eachother like sworn enemies. Not to say that they were ever buddy buddies, but seems their intentionally making up crap to make them more hostile and distrusting of eachother again, and treating it likes it a unprecedented phenomena that’s brand new, when in reality it isn’t. yeah, i'd agree with that. although honestly i was thinking specifically of how in TBC the "clan leader's word is the code" rule became such a point of contention. it seemed really ridiculous to me how many characters blindly upheld the rule, to stupid degrees, when thats like. the most frequently challenged code in the original arc. clan cats back then approached that code with more nuance, understanding that other rules in the spirit of honor often supersede it. so its really weird and off-putting how the writers suddenly portrayed clans as holding that rule in the utmost regard. they lost all critical thinking.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Mar 16, 2022 15:55:32 GMT -5
this is what contributed majorly to me not enjoying TBC, and AVoS to some degree. feels like their deliberately reverting the clans to back to being stricter with the code, more warlike and hating eachother and being at each other’s throats more, and overall more hostile. And completely backtracking all the progress made from the first 4 Arcs. With them becoming much more diplomatic and able to depend on another, and treating eachother like sworn enemies. Not to say that they were ever buddy buddies, but seems their intentionally making up crap to make them more hostile and distrusting of eachother again, and treating it likes it a unprecedented phenomena that’s brand new, when in reality it isn’t. yeah, i'd agree with that. although honestly i was thinking specifically of how in TBC the "clan leader's word is the code" rule became such a point of contention. it seemed really ridiculous to me how many characters blindly upheld the rule, to stupid degrees, when thats like. the most frequently challenged code in the original arc. clan cats back then approached that code with more nuance, understanding that other rules in the spirit of honor often supersede it. so its really weird and off-putting how the writers suddenly portrayed clans as holding that rule in the utmost regard. they lost all critical thinking. yeah didn’t make much sense really
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