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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 2, 2022 13:22:32 GMT -5
I know there is at least one thread about this already on here but since that was a little while ago and I did not share my actual idea on it, I will do so now instead.
Feel free to post your own versions down below, be it only some names and descriptions for a second (and third if you so choose) litter of kits for Firestar and Sandstorm or even full blown storylines and relationship dynamics.
They really should have had another litter together, in my opinion. It's even stated that Sandstorm would have loved to have more kits with Firestar in The Ultimate Guide.
So without further ado, here's my interpretation of a second FireSand litter:
Gorsekit/big light golden tabby tom with a white muzzle and belly, amber eyes Warrior name: Gorsedew Personality: calm and kind Mentor: Brightheart Future mate: Icecloud
Foxkit/long-legged bright ginger tabby tom with a white tailtip and white ear tips, green eyes Warrior name: Foxleap Personality: impulsive and playful Mentor: Cloudtail Future mate: Ivypool
Yes, I stole one of the DustFern kits canon names and gave it to this fanon FireSand kit instead. For some reason, it got stuck in my head that I wanted their names to kind of match up with their older sisters and Foxleap just fits perfectly next to Squirrelflight while Gorsedew also goes nicely with Leafpool. The real Foxleap still exists and is renamed to Flameleap in this AU.
Another thing that I decided was making them both toms and thus giving FireSand two sons next to their two daughters. Simply because I wanted to and also due to there usually being more litters with just she-cats than those with just toms in them in canon. For anyone wondering, I have quite a few AUs where Firestar ends up "only" having daughters and no sons at all. So I was just in the mood to change things up a bit in that regard.
In terms of when Gorsekit and Foxkit are born and how the plot around them starts off, I had two options (technically made four), the first was having them be born during TNP either at the old forest or new lake territories and the second was having their birth take place in PoT either during Eclipse or Sunrise. I chose to go with the obviously overdramatic scene of having Sandstorm give birth to them while the sun vanished in Eclipse which gets prophecised by at least one cat (maybe Rock) to be a bad omen or something (because of course it would be interpreted that way by someone).
There isn't really anything more planned out for them by me so far (except the character info up above).
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Mar 2, 2022 15:01:47 GMT -5
my favorite of all time
emberpaw (i never gave him a proper suffix): depending on what AU i put him in, he's either a tannish, pale ginger-brown tabby with pale green eyes; or a pale ginger tabby tom with dark green eyes. i usually make him the medicine cat apprentice just so leafpool can be a warrior instead, so i never paired him with anyone in my AU's
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Post by 🌌dapple🌙 (formerly freckle) on Mar 3, 2022 10:23:08 GMT -5
As I personally dislike Squirrelflight, I always liked to imagine a kit in her place to grow up with Leafpool!
Leaf and Rain I always felt go good together. It gives me almost a Dew-like vibe.
So Dewkit (later Dewsquirrel, bc why not) is a tom with silver fur so a dilute but has some cream spots on his back like Sandstorm. He has green eyes like both his parents and he wouldn't have a future mate, I just imagine him solo. And he's really softspoken- except when it comes to his rivalry with Brambleclaw. Them two hate one another and Firestar would try to be like "the dad that brings both his sons to equal ground over video games" (or really put them on patrols together often) to try to make them friends but it never works XD
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 3, 2022 13:24:50 GMT -5
I would of loved for FirexSand to have had a second litter of kits with a couple of Toms. But I can foresee the outcry and backlash from fans crying out its misogynistic, and that Sandstorm was being further reduced to only being a mate to Firestar, and becoming a kite machine like Ferncloud sadly if it would of happened.Back then perhaps. But I see a lot of positivity for Ferncloud (and Daisy) these days. And even so, if it was explicitly stated that Sandstorm (and Firestar) had wanted that second litter there would have been no issue to base a complaint on (unllike with FinTwig as an example). On the topic of Sandstorm being mostly known as Firestar's mate, that part is sadly true in my opinion. I still wish that she had gotten her own adventure or a storyline seperate from him to establish herself as more than just his mate. Granted, she also went on the SkyClan quest (twice, once with him and once with their grandson Alderpaw) and was mentioned a few times to be ThunderClan's best hunter during her lifetime. But still. As it stands, Sandstorm is overshadowed by Firestar. Then again, who isn't?
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Post by Cloudstorm on Mar 3, 2022 13:51:33 GMT -5
I would of loved for FirexSand to have had a second litter of kits with a couple of Toms. But I can foresee the outcry and backlash from fans crying out its misogynistic, and that Sandstorm was being further reduced to only being a mate to Firestar, and becoming a kite machine like Ferncloud sadly if it would of happened.Back then perhaps. But I see a lot of positivity for Ferncloud (and Daisy) these days. And even so, if it was explicitly stated that Sandstorm (and Firestar) had wanted that second litter there would have been no issue to base a complaint on (unllike with FinTwig as an example). On the topic of Sandstorm being mostly known as Firestar's mate, that part is sadly true in my opinion. I still wish that she had gotten her own adventure or a storyline seperate from him to establish herself as more than just his mate. Granted, she also went on the SkyClan quest (twice, once with him and once with their grandson Alderpaw) and was mentioned a few times to be ThunderClan's best hunter during her lifetime. But still. As it stands, Sandstorm is overshadowed by Firestar. Then again, who isn't? I Still see plenty of discourse and disdain directed towards Ferncloud & Daisy, less in these forums than before, but still quite a bit elsewhere. And that deduction can basically be applied to every single character(She-cat or Tom) that ends up with a mate, either Protag or Background character, once that happens, they generally get pushed into the background, get less Screentime, development, plot relevance etc. and it is hinted that Sandstorm wanted a second litter of kits in PoT, and Cats of the Clans as well(pretty sure), and Victoria made an authors statement prior about her wanting more kits, but that Firestar was too busy leading the clan to make time to raise a second litter, so the acknowledgment is there. it would of been nice for Sandstorm to have gotten a side story of her own, but then there’s a ton of background characters I want novellas about that we’ll probably never get.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Mar 3, 2022 14:57:44 GMT -5
Back then perhaps. But I see a lot of positivity for Ferncloud (and Daisy) these days. And even so, if it was explicitly stated that Sandstorm (and Firestar) had wanted that second litter there would have been no issue to base a complaint on (unllike with FinTwig as an example). On the topic of Sandstorm being mostly known as Firestar's mate, that part is sadly true in my opinion. I still wish that she had gotten her own adventure or a storyline seperate from him to establish herself as more than just his mate. Granted, she also went on the SkyClan quest (twice, once with him and once with their grandson Alderpaw) and was mentioned a few times to be ThunderClan's best hunter during her lifetime. But still. As it stands, Sandstorm is overshadowed by Firestar. Then again, who isn't? I Still see plenty of discourse and disdain directed towards Ferncloud & Daisy, less in these forums than before, but still quite a bit elsewhere. And that deduction can basically be applied to every single character(She-cat or Tom) that ends up with a mate, either Protag or Background character, once that happens, they generally get pushed into the background, get less Screentime, development, plot relevance etc. and it is hinted that Sandstorm wanted a second litter of kits in PoT, and Cats of the Clans as well(pretty sure), and Victoria made an authors statement prior about her wanting more kits, but that Firestar was too busy leading the clan to make time to raise a second litter, so the acknowledgment is there. it would of been nice for Sandstorm to have gotten a side story of her own, but then there’s a ton of background characters I want novellas about that we’ll probably never get. Sandstorm having wanted more kits with Firestar got indeed directly confirmed in The Ultimate Guide (on her character page as I've already stated in my original top post). I meant that it would not have been a problem at all if both characters had said to want a second litter during the main series books (something which never got outright confirmed even during PoT/OotS and was only ever subtly hinted at instead). That way, even if some fans had complained about it, there would have been no real basis for any criticism. But as it stands, only Sandstorm was wishing for more kits in canon and we know nothing about what Firestar thought of it except that he was "too busy".
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