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Post by Rainfire on Feb 10, 2022 1:40:38 GMT -5
How do you all feel about TigerDove having a another litter? Do you have any early hopes for Rowankit and Birchkit?
I'm beyond happy about it and I know I'm biased and that the kits themselves haven't even had any screen-time yet, but I already adore them with my whole heart lol. I also LOVE their names! I really hope Sunbeam gets to mentor one of them! Oh, and I hope Rowankit and Birchkit get some cute sibling scenes with Pouncestep, Lightleap, and Shadowsight too!
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Post by Jaysnow on Feb 10, 2022 1:46:55 GMT -5
I love that they have another litter and the fact that one is named after Dovewing's father and one after Tigerstar's father is adorable. They might not get the spotlight for a while, though. Maybe one of them is an arc nine (assuming we get one) protag. I doubt we'll see much of them this arc, given Lightleap and Pouncestep's screentime, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 10, 2022 1:47:43 GMT -5
i hate second litters in general...the only second litter that was slightly justified was cloud x bright becuase they only had 1 kit...if they had their second litter much sooner, i wouldn't have issues with it...it just sucks they had their second litter a little too late for my personal liking.
dove x tiger don't need a second litter...most second litters dont need to exist (again, unlike cloud x bright who only had 1 kit total before their second litter). i bet their second litter only exists just to do MORE legacy naming. most people i've seen on here hate legacy naming by now...like sure, i love the honoring of my boy birchfall (and therefore also dust x fern), but legacy naming is over used and boring now...we don't need it. i doubt rowankit and birchkit will even do anything of importance. their kin is no longer the protag or POV for shadowclan, so its almost a guarantee they're just threre to provide more firekin for shadowclan...it's funny because both dove x tiger r thunderclan by blood. tigerstar is half thunderclan bc of tawnypelt, and dovewing is full thunderclan AS WELL AS FIREKIN. shadowclan is being taken over by firekin. might as well name them thunderclan 2.0.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 2:51:10 GMT -5
I'm just happy that Dustpelt and Ferncloud's line got new blood :")
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Post by dreamingof on Feb 10, 2022 8:21:54 GMT -5
Good for them! I was hoping but did not actually expect them to have another litter. I don't like legacy naming very much, but the grandpa name theme is really fun. I don't really have any expectations for them as characters though. I imagine they'll be pretty background. It would be nice if one of them gained importance by being made Sunbeam's apprentice.
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Post by deerspirit on Feb 10, 2022 8:39:40 GMT -5
I'm happy for them. The Oakstar family tree is probably my favorite family. Although I wish more attention was given to the Shadowclan side. I would love more focus on Tawnypelt's family especially Dawnpelt, her mate Crowfrost, her kits Juniperclaw, Strikestone, and Sleekwhisker. I just loved that family and I feel like they were just tossed aside. I definitely would have loved AVOS better if the pov's were Dawnpelt's three kits especially Juniperclaw and Sleekwhisker. Both characters are so complex and would make wonderful pov characters. I'm hoping they both get a future super edition or novella. I also have high hopes that Dawnpelt, Crowfrost, Juniperclaw, Strikestone, and Sleekwhisker will have major roles this arc. Juniperclaw as the new border guardian will definitely be important and Sleekwhisker is almost guaranteed to come back as a major villain. I hope Dawnpelt, Crowfrost, and Strikestone decide to join their son and brother as border guardians. To be honest I would like to see all non faded Oakstar relatives as border guardians especially since they pretty much all have something to atone for. Overall I'm glad my favorite family got new members and I can't wait to get to know Birchkit and Rowankit.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Feb 10, 2022 9:27:01 GMT -5
At first, I wasn’t too happy about them having a second litter, but I’m definitely starting to like the idea of it. Also I love their names! Birchkit and Rowankit sound super cute and it’s sweet how they’re named after their grandfathers.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Feb 10, 2022 10:39:54 GMT -5
Even if it was necessary or not, if you look at Dovewing's character, you can see her as a character who loves having kits and being a mother. It just fits her to have multiple litters. Imo, i'm beyond happy they're having more kits! I really love their family.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Feb 10, 2022 10:44:02 GMT -5
I'm happy if they're happy, plus their kits names are so cute
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Post by crowspirit on Feb 10, 2022 11:43:40 GMT -5
Well, I suppose I'm okay with that. I always thought that Dovewing wanted to have a big, happy family, so her having another litter makes sense in my eyes. She can be like her grandmother. What I don't like is that we have even more FireKin now. ThunderClan is already filled with his descendants, and now ShadowClan too?
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Feb 10, 2022 11:51:04 GMT -5
Despite still not liking TigerDove as a couple, I don't mind them having more kits together since it at least fits with Dovewing's character (she just gives me the vibes of wanting a big family). This second litter being named after their fathers (Rowanclaw and Birchfall) is a very cute choice as well.
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 10, 2022 15:19:11 GMT -5
I'm quite alright with it since it means more DustFern kin. I was always worried about their kin dying out. Now hopefully Mousewhisker, Molewhisker or Cherryfall eventually have kits so Daisy's kin will still be around.
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Post by Hollyfall on Feb 10, 2022 16:37:25 GMT -5
I don't think they really needed a second litter, but I ultimately can't complain as it means the DustFern line continues. That, and I think it's nice that Rowankit and Birchkit were named after their grandfathers.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Feb 10, 2022 16:42:13 GMT -5
I wasn't expecting it at all but I think it's adorable. I think it also signifies that Dovewing is truly comfortable in her adopted home and with her little family; her first litter was a 'happy accident', but this second one must have been planned. Naming them after their grandfathers is also a nice touch.
Honestly, I was expecting an Ivy/Fern second litter and I'm very glad it didn't happen. If the Erins wanted to list Fernsong as a full-time nursery king like Daisy, however, that would be great.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Feb 10, 2022 18:04:58 GMT -5
I don't think they needed a second litter at all if it means that more Firekin will be around. I'm glad DustFern's family is still staying around, but bleh... Firekin ://
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Post by Cloudstorm on Feb 10, 2022 19:06:50 GMT -5
Honestly it’s quite incongruous and bizarre for her to have a second litter so soon. Considering how temperamental and against the notion she was of having kit’s with Bumblestripe, and griped about everyone supposedly pressuring her into a relationship she didn’t want. But apparently that was never the problem I guess? Which really makes her come as even more inconsiderate and selfish for just breaking up with him, and not even giving explanation or communicating in any capacity, and giving off mixed signals without any clarification of what she’s wants or doesn’t, and at least giving him some closure and letting Bumblestripe that it wasn’t any fault of his own for their break up.
Anyway, I find it unnecessary for them to have a second litter, when indestructible Shadowsight is still very much alive, and we don’t need any more excuses to give either Tigerheart or Dovewing relevance or spotlight. Them being named after their respective grandparents is endearing. However, having Tigerheart name a kit after the father he quintessentially betrayed and let down, is basically pious respect and honor. And it’s painful.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Feb 10, 2022 22:20:24 GMT -5
I hate TigerDove with a passion (honestly mainly due to my hatred of Tigerheartstar), but I’m kinda glad they had another litter of kits. I feel like a lot of leaders who have kits have one litter and then stop (Firestar, Rowanstar (though he wasn’t leader at the time), Bramblestar, Mistystar, Windstar, etc.). Like these leaders who have long lives and mates who also have long lives but stop having kits at one litter. I didn’t even realize this was a pattern until I was like, shocked that Tiger and Dove had another litter. So I’m kinda here for it.
Not a huge fan of a kit being named after Rowanclaw (glad she’s female though), but I really do love that the other is named after Birchfall. Considering we had basically no scenes between Dove and Birch when she was still in ThunderClan, it’s kinda nice to see her honoring her father - with the added bonus that he’s not dead and he’s not some hero that the poor kit will have to live up to.
So yeah, as much as I’m not a fan of the couple themselves, I’m pretty satisfied with them having more kits.
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Post by Hollyfall on Feb 11, 2022 13:01:42 GMT -5
I wonder if Rowankit being a she-cat is a bit of a meta-reference to the fact that Rowanclaw was originally a she-cat in his first appearances? Probably just a coincidence, but it's just a random thought I had.
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Post by raincloud33 on Feb 11, 2022 13:58:03 GMT -5
Always like to see clan cats having more than one litter, because I can't see unfixed feral cats not having a 2892372347 (with at least half dying before adulthood) kittens after having to deal with feral colonies for my whole life lol. Yes I know the books aren't 'realistic', but the general behavior between mothers/kittens in the books has always bothered me (tho especially bothered by kittens opening their eyes like a day later and that being chill.. and then speaking like. as newborns. why).
Also those names are super cute... I really love when characters name their kids after loved ones and I love love they are naming their babies after the dads.
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Post by cygna on Feb 11, 2022 19:10:47 GMT -5
Disappointed that my least favorite couple are popping out more babies while my faves like Bristlefrost get to die. Also very sad that Dawnpelt's line died out while Tigerfart's will probably live on until the end of time,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 10:40:52 GMT -5
I'm really happy that Tiger and Dove are having more kits! While I kinda don't like Tigerstar IV, I think Tiger x Dove is pretty cute and I like them together. I love the grampa names as well :0
And I actually don't have a problem with more Firekin being introduced into ShadowClan, as I give about zero craps about the blood of characters. We're far enough in the series that Firestar blood basically doesn't matter anymore (unless you're Flamepaw, I suppose)
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Feb 12, 2022 10:49:03 GMT -5
I really want Birchkit to meet Birchfall at a gathering now
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Post by seantheskyhunter on Feb 12, 2022 14:19:49 GMT -5
It was completely unnecesary imo. I dont know hth are these kits gonna be important to the plot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 14:26:36 GMT -5
It was completely unnecesary imo. I dont know hth are these kits gonna be important to the plot. The kits don't have to be important to the plot to exist though? I genuinely don't understand your reasoning for saying that they shouldn't have had more kits.
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Post by seantheskyhunter on Feb 12, 2022 14:31:12 GMT -5
It was completely unnecesary imo. I dont know hth are these kits gonna be important to the plot. The kits don't have to be important to the plot to exist though? I genuinely don't understand your reasoning for saying that they shouldn't have had more kits. The Erins should stop giving kits to characters that already had kits and were also important. Just my saying, but we already have tons of useless cats. If new kits are born they should be given to that cats
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 12, 2022 16:20:01 GMT -5
It was completely unnecesary imo. I dont know hth are these kits gonna be important to the plot. The kits don't have to be important to the plot to exist though? I genuinely don't understand your reasoning for saying that they shouldn't have had more kits. giving irrelevant cats kits or in this case, giving couples second litters, just clogs the cat count number with more useless background cats with no personality. if pairings only had 1-2 kits who r actually relevent, the count would be less. my favorite example to use is lion x cinder. if they only had kits that managed to become relevent, their only kits would be spotfur and fernsong. sorrelstripe has no personality and yet she herself has kits...she and her kits r not going to be relevent so they take up unnecessary space by existing for no purpose.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Feb 12, 2022 16:33:50 GMT -5
The kits don't have to be important to the plot to exist though? I genuinely don't understand your reasoning for saying that they shouldn't have had more kits. giving irrelevant cats kits or in this case, giving couples second litters, just clogs the cat count number with more useless background cats with no personality. if pairings only had 1-2 kits who r actually relevent, the count would be less. my favorite example to use is lion x cinder. if they only had kits that managed to become relevent, their only kits would be spotfur and fernsong. sorrelstripe has no personality and yet she herself has kits...she and her kits r not going to be relevent so they take up unnecessary space by existing for no purpose.I will not stand for this anti-Sorrelstripe behavior! All jokes aside [River Expert Spoilers]: Baypaw appears in the River excerpt and he and Flamepaw seem pretty close. I think it would be a pretty safe bet that Baypaw will be semi-important in ASC, at least appearing more often than say, Honeyfur. [But there is also a chance the fact that he and Flamepaw are friends/foster brothers will be forgotten about eventually in the arc.]
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Post by twigfrost on Feb 12, 2022 16:37:10 GMT -5
The kits don't have to be important to the plot to exist though? I genuinely don't understand your reasoning for saying that they shouldn't have had more kits. giving irrelevant cats kits or in this case, giving couples second litters, just clogs the cat count number with more useless background cats with no personality. if pairings only had 1-2 kits who r actually relevent, the count would be less. my favorite example to use is lion x cinder. if they only had kits that managed to become relevent, their only kits would be spotfur and fernsong. sorrelstripe has no personality and yet she herself has kits...she and her kits r not going to be relevent so they take up unnecessary space by existing for no purpose. if the clans only had plot relevant cats they’d be tiny enough to wipe out with a single bout of greencough.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 12, 2022 17:20:35 GMT -5
giving irrelevant cats kits or in this case, giving couples second litters, just clogs the cat count number with more useless background cats with no personality. if pairings only had 1-2 kits who r actually relevent, the count would be less. my favorite example to use is lion x cinder. if they only had kits that managed to become relevent, their only kits would be spotfur and fernsong. sorrelstripe has no personality and yet she herself has kits...she and her kits r not going to be relevent so they take up unnecessary space by existing for no purpose. if the clans only had plot relevant cats they’d be tiny enough to wipe out with a single bout of greencough. maybe should change the wording to cats who get personality and important things to do in the background. not all of them get personalities so they just take up space. icecloud, foxleap, hazeltail, for example should have stayed around longer because they had personalities. but cats like hollytuft, ambermoon, etc. they dont get anyhting so why bother?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 12, 2022 17:21:25 GMT -5
giving irrelevant cats kits or in this case, giving couples second litters, just clogs the cat count number with more useless background cats with no personality. if pairings only had 1-2 kits who r actually relevent, the count would be less. my favorite example to use is lion x cinder. if they only had kits that managed to become relevent, their only kits would be spotfur and fernsong. sorrelstripe has no personality and yet she herself has kits...she and her kits r not going to be relevent so they take up unnecessary space by existing for no purpose.I will not stand for this anti-Sorrelstripe behavior! All jokes aside [River Expert Spoilers]: Baypaw appears in the River excerpt and he and Flamepaw seem pretty close. I think it would be a pretty safe bet that Baypaw will be semi-important in ASC, at least appearing more often than say, Honeyfur. [But there is also a chance the fact that he and Flamepaw are friends/foster brothers will be forgotten about eventually in the arc.] idk if hindsight is the right word or not, but they're only making sorrelstripe semi-relevant many arcs after her birth. she didnt get characterization before this so its just too little too late. and im not a fan of that, personally.
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