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Post by cable on Jan 18, 2022 10:38:50 GMT -5
what it says on the tin. for me its russetfur. ive always loved her in ys and t&s, but in the main series, shes been, uh⦠kind of the worst thing ever. i cant really make myself hate her just because of my fond memories reading ys, but the berrykit thing makes it hard for me to like her, either.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Jan 18, 2022 13:37:42 GMT -5
Star Flower.
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Post by *β’.ΒΈβ‘π₯π’πΈπ―π³π°π΄π¦β‘ΒΈ.β’* on Jan 18, 2022 13:46:32 GMT -5
Mapleshade
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Post by ππ₯πππ€π¬π¨π₯ on Jan 18, 2022 16:02:47 GMT -5
Bramblestar and Finleap. Oh and maybe Ivypool because I can both absolutely despise and kinda like her. Also Sharpclaw because I loved him in FQ and the SkyClan manga but I hated him in SD.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 18, 2022 16:30:38 GMT -5
Tigerclaw. He was a pretty legitimately scary villain in the first arc, and it's so much fun to read how intimidating and terrible he is. But then his novella came out and his internal monologues are so cartoonishly "evil" that it makes him look ridiculous.
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Post by ππ₯πππ€π¬π¨π₯ on Jan 18, 2022 17:19:38 GMT -5
Tigerclaw. He was a pretty legitimately scary villain in the first arc, and it's so much fun to read how intimidating and terrible he is. But then his novella came out and his internal monologues are so cartoonishly "evil" that it makes him look ridiculous. It makes him look like such a hilarious drama queen and I love it.
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Post by π±ππππππππππ on Jan 18, 2022 17:38:20 GMT -5
Tigerclaw. He was a pretty legitimately scary villain in the first arc, and it's so much fun to read how intimidating and terrible he is. But then his novella came out and his internal monologues are so cartoonishly "evil" that it makes him look ridiculous. It makes him look like such a hilarious drama queen and I love it. Agreed! It's his over the top inner monologue of "stones will break and the sky will fall when we meet in our final battle" that instantly made Tigerclaw's Fury my favorite novella. What a performance!
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Post by ππ₯πππ€π¬π¨π₯ on Jan 18, 2022 17:50:38 GMT -5
It makes him look like such a hilarious drama queen and I love it. Agreed! It's his over the top inner monologue of "stones will break and the sky will fall when we meet in our final battle" that instantly made Tigerclaw's Fury my favorite novella. What a performance! God yes, Tigerstar in his novella was top tier. Also his line about "the forest denied me moss but I found something else" or something made crack up. Of course the forest doesn't deny you moss, you just went to the edge of the territory which means less treesπ
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 18, 2022 17:56:08 GMT -5
It makes him look like such a hilarious drama queen and I love it. Agreed! It's his over the top inner monologue of "stones will break and the sky will fall when we meet in our final battle" that instantly made Tigerclaw's Fury my favorite novella. What a performance! to me he just looks like a narcissitic buffoon lol. i preferred him as a calculating and cold (if egotistic) antagonist, rather than a kinda foolish brute who only got as far as he did because he was the buffest dude in the room.
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Post by tema on Jan 18, 2022 17:59:58 GMT -5
Mothwing. Normally I can't stand the 'flat-Earth atheist' trope, but she's starting to warm up to me now that a lot of the drama she's involved in no longer centers on her, so she can now act level-headed.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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The Shiny User
π΅Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy goπ΅
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Post by αΉ’anΙypawβ’ on Jan 18, 2022 18:11:48 GMT -5
Clear Sky, on one head he was a massive POS but on the other I could see why he did all that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 21:14:14 GMT -5
Agreed! It's his over the top inner monologue of "stones will break and the sky will fall when we meet in our final battle" that instantly made Tigerclaw's Fury my favorite novella. What a performance! to me he just looks like a narcissitic buffoon lol. i preferred him as a calculating and cold (if egotistic) antagonist, rather than a kinda foolish brute who only got as far as he did because he was the buffest dude in the room. In other books, Tigerclaw is shown to be extremely intelligent, planning and manipulating others to gain power. I didn't like the novella because it ruined his character for me. Also, I didn't like the idea that he was manipulated by Mapleshade, it made him seem more like a puppet than a legitimate villain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 21:15:28 GMT -5
Firestar. I think he's a great character, especially in earlier books, but I grew so tired of his boring "goody-two-shoes" personality in later books.
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Post by β²ΟΞΉΠΊΞ±ΖΟ
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Brambleclaw/star. I liked him a lot as an apprentice, young warrior, and later dad to the original three. But then when he became leader he...just lost what made me like his character. Not to mention I find him to be an okay leader at best.
Squirrelflight. I adored her a lot, but as of late I've grown mixed on how to feel about her thanks to her fanbase. Not to mention her constant spotlight hogging in the recent arc plus her unnecessary SE.
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Post by cygna on Jan 18, 2022 22:56:34 GMT -5
Squirrelflight
Sandstorm
Clear Sky - On one hand he was such an interesting complex character on the other hand he dated the trash his son almost dated.
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Namara
Briarlight support squad
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Post by Namara on Jan 19, 2022 0:21:02 GMT -5
Feathertail. I really love her in A Shadow in RiverClan, and her overall personality and character concept. At the same time, I really don't like her relationship with Crowpaw/feather. Also her role in saving the Tribe rubs me the wrong way, but to be fair that's due to the story setup rather than her actions specifically.
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Cloudstorm
Donβt let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Jan 19, 2022 1:21:03 GMT -5
Ivypool. the whole βjealous sibling rivalryβ trope just isnβt intriguing or that interesting for me personally. While I do appreciate her character and understand other peopleβs adoration for her, and found her relatable in OoTS and what not. However,Her PoV up until she started spying in The Dark Forest were just boring and lackluster to me.
Squirrelflight. Absolutely adored her from TNP-OoTS. Sheβs fiery, spunky, headstrong hotheaded and loaded with energy. Sheβs a complex and flawed character that has many facets and and plenty of charmβ¦ and Iβve always been able to empathize with her to some extent for the majority of her actions, even if I didnβt always agree with them. And she definitely needed some tutoring when it came to parenting, because honestly she wasnβt very good at it, but really enjoyed her all aroundβ¦β¦β¦then afterwards I became much more indifferent and aggravated by her actions, since she basically repeats the same mistakes over and over, and has pretty stagnated and stopped developing as a character, and doesnβt really offer anything new to the table. And frankly Iβm beyond fed up and over her absurd romance drama, and honestly wanted to bang my head on more then a few occasions reading through TBC, and the Cringeworthy travesty that is Squirrelflightβs Hope.
After 17 years Itβs time for her to retire from the spotlight permanently. Whether she gets iced or steps down as deputy and lets someone else take the wheel. Iβll always remember her fondly in the original arcs she was inβ¦β¦β¦but the new material has forever tarnished her reputation and soured my perception of her.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jan 19, 2022 6:00:07 GMT -5
Bramblestar.
I second Russetfur.
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Post by crowspirit on Jan 19, 2022 6:06:31 GMT -5
Tigerheart. I do like him in The Broken Code and his Super Edition, and he's a good father, but Omen of the Stars and SquirrelflightΚΌs Hope Tigerheart is just insufferable. Also, Dovewing for the same reasons. I really don't like her in Omen of the Stars. I also agree with Russetfur, I wish the Sunset thing never happened so I could like her without feeling bad for it. On a similar note, Thistleclaw. Loved the dude before SpottedleafΚΌs Heart. Please don't randomly turn cats into groomers?
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Post by downfalls on Jan 19, 2022 8:22:06 GMT -5
onestar. he was such a good character as onewhisker but onestar....eughh
oh and clear sky. hated him for the longest time but now im neutral on him
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Post by π±ππππππππππ on Jan 19, 2022 11:39:57 GMT -5
Agreed! It's his over the top inner monologue of "stones will break and the sky will fall when we meet in our final battle" that instantly made Tigerclaw's Fury my favorite novella. What a performance! to me he just looks like a narcissitic buffoon lol. i preferred him as a calculating and cold (if egotistic) antagonist, rather than a kinda foolish brute who only got as far as he did because he was the buffest dude in the room. That's fair. But then again, he was a narcissistic and egotistical cat and villain to begin with. I just learned to embrace this over the top characterization (one ould say cartoonishly evil or even a caricature of his main series self) getting presented in Tigerclaw's Fury. And to me, he still had calculating moments in his book even though his usual cold attitude was replaced by a lot of anger, which was at least understandable since he had just lost his high ranking position of power and his overall place in ThunderClan (because of his own actions) to having to live like a rogue instead.
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Post by Pixie on Jan 19, 2022 12:11:25 GMT -5
Needletail. Iβve grown to appreciate her moral ambiguity and overall chaotic nature.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 19, 2022 12:29:57 GMT -5
to me he just looks like a narcissitic buffoon lol. i preferred him as a calculating and cold (if egotistic) antagonist, rather than a kinda foolish brute who only got as far as he did because he was the buffest dude in the room. That's fair. But then again, he was a narcissistic and egotistical cat and villain to begin with. I just learned to embrace this over the top characterization (one ould say cartoonishly evil or even a caricature of his main series self) getting presented in Tigerclaw's Fury. And to me, he still had calculating moments in his book even though his usual cold attitude was replaced by a lot of anger, which was at least understandable since he had just lost his high ranking position of power and his overall place in ThunderClan (because of his own actions) to having to live like a rogue instead. it does make sense and i agree that hes hilarious in TF, but it also makes me cringe so hard
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Post by π±ππππππππππ on Jan 19, 2022 12:37:11 GMT -5
That's fair. But then again, he was a narcissistic and egotistical cat and villain to begin with. I just learned to embrace this over the top characterization (one ould say cartoonishly evil or even a caricature of his main series self) getting presented in Tigerclaw's Fury. And to me, he still had calculating moments in his book even though his usual cold attitude was replaced by a lot of anger, which was at least understandable since he had just lost his high ranking position of power and his overall place in ThunderClan (because of his own actions) to having to live like a rogue instead. it does make sense and i agree that hes hilarious in TF, but it also makes me cringe so hard That's completely understandable since Tigerclaw's portrayal does seem to have missed the mark between just being a bit dramatic to outright comical in his novella. Sort of like in Winds of Change when Mudclaw did all those hilarious facial expressions. He even facepalmed during the Gathering scene when Onewhisker had his own little slapstick moment.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Jan 19, 2022 13:36:16 GMT -5
Probably Bramblestar and Finleap
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Post by jujiaanne on Jan 19, 2022 16:14:21 GMT -5
greystripe, sometimes i maybe think i really don't like greystripe and then other times i figure he's fineπβοΈ but i did like greypawπ₯°βΌοΈβΌοΈ
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Post by jujiaanne on Jan 19, 2022 19:56:20 GMT -5
mothwing
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Post by hollybloom on Jan 20, 2022 13:14:10 GMT -5
probably incredibly unpopular, but grey wing. seeing all the fanon depictions of him being the "sweet, level headed, caring" brother all these years didnt prepare me for when i read dotc in december and saw all the times he was...anything but that lol. the way he treated jagged peak sometimes, enables clear skys bad behavior, and especially how he treated bumble gets on my nerves.
bumbles death scene was the final nail in the coffin for me. the fact that hes more concerned with how "brave" clear sky was to come over, rather the fact he may have killed bumble doesnt sit well with me. i dont like gray wing at all. maybe not as much as i dislike say, rainflower. but i dont like him. i used to think he was some cool, nice character. but now i really dont like him, except for how he raised thunder.
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