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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Jan 8, 2022 18:40:09 GMT -5
I'm currently reading the second half of A Vision of Shadows and I'm enjoying it so much less than the first half, I don't know what it is, it could be the fact that they killed the main villain halfway through the arc, but it's just not as good. I honestly really liked Shattered Sky, I thought it was a good book, but it feels like they could've saved it for later in the arc. What would you do to improve the arc?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 8, 2022 18:45:59 GMT -5
First half is basically the same, just replace ShadowClan with WindClan. Second half, lean more into SkyClan settling in with the other Clans, the Kin—led by Sleekwhisker—return in RoF during a RiverClan succession crisis, Squirrelflight dies and Sparkpelt blames SkyClan for this and she ends up being the final antagonist for the arc.
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Post by epicstyle on Jan 8, 2022 19:53:05 GMT -5
My time has come. This is something I have been thinking a lot about recently because I really like what AVOS tried to do. It had a very strong first half, and TAQ is in my top 10 favorite books in the series. IDK about all of the details, but here are some of the things I would change.
-The protagonists of the arc would be Alderheart, Sparkpelt, and Needletail. Twigbranch and Violetshine would still be very important characters but just not main POVs.
-The arc would focus on Alderheart and Needletail trying to keep Twig and Violet safe during the events of AVOS, because they get caught in the middle of the conflict with ShadowClan/WindClan, Darktail, and SkyClan trying to settle by the lake. There would also be a wedge between Alderheart and Sparkpelt, probably concerning SkyClan.
-The twist with Darktail would be that he was Blackstar's son instead of Onestar. It just makes more sense to me because the Onestar twist kinda came out of left field. It would be explained that Blackstar had a kit with a rogue when he was exiled with Brokenstar/Tigerstar in the original series. I think this could work because it would put Darktail around Bramblestar's age.
-Needletail wouldn't die halfway through the arc, and her character would be more consistent with how it was in TAQ. -Rowanstar would be a worse character than he was in AVOS, which would make ShadowClan turning to Darktail over him justified. Him separating the SkyClan kits would be more of an issue, and his inaction in TAS would lead to more ShadowClan deaths.
-Instead of WindClan giving the herbs to ShadowClan, it would actually be Darktail and his rogues who save them. They would show up towards the end of the book and offer to attack WindClan themselves to gain favor of the clan. This would result in Rowanstar's exile and would be more justified than it was in the original books.
-The Darktail storyline would be better paced out to suit the arc, since it was the strongest point of AVOS. The Kin would be a threat for the best 4-5 books and the rest would be an epilogue of sorts which would deal with SkyClan settling by the lake and their conflict with ShadowClan over territory.
-SkyClan would still show up around book 3, which would cause even more chaos because the Kin would still control half of the lake territories. In the end Hawkwing would kill Darktail instead of Onestar.
Sorry this is a lot, it is something I have been working on for a while. This isn't entirely fleshed out because it is something I am still working on.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 8, 2022 21:10:37 GMT -5
easy: no thunderclan POV. the main POV is windclan. breezepelt's first two daughters could have taken alder and needle's places in the story and bring twig and violet to windclan. it's way better this way and its mind boggling this never happened...darktail has ties to skyclan, thus having ties to twig and violet since they're biologically skyclan, and darktail knows their father hawkwing personally. THEN the second tie to twig and violet and why them being in windclan makes the arc better: darktail ALSO has ties to windclan through onestar being his father who he has a grudge with. so if both twig and violet stay in windclan together, they will have a stronger tie to the narrative and conflict. AND so will breezepelt's daughters since heathertail is still canonically onestar's daughter, making brindle and smoke onestar's granddaughters AND the half relatives to darktail himself. DOUBLE connection on both sides.
i'll never forgive AVOS for not giving windclan the main POV since the villain literally has to do with windclan through onesar...it's so stupid. also, darktail dying halfway through was also stupid...it left the second half pointless.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 8, 2022 21:24:44 GMT -5
not really a fan of any part of this arc, tbh.
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Jan 9, 2022 14:06:38 GMT -5
not really a fan of any part of this arc, tbh. I can completely understand that. It defiently isn't the strongest arc. In my opinion, The Apprentice's Quest wasn't the best start to the arc, Thunder and Shadow wasn't bad and Shattered Sky was the peak of the arc, it's one of my favourite Warriors books outside of literally everything from TPB. The arc went really downhill and I'm not looking forward to reading
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 9, 2022 14:32:13 GMT -5
not really a fan of any part of this arc, tbh. I can completely understand that. It defiently isn't the strongest arc. In my opinion, The Apprentice's Quest wasn't the best start to the arc, Thunder and Shadow wasn't bad and Shattered Sky was the peak of the arc, it's one of my favourite Warriors books outside of literally everything from TPB. The arc went really downhill and I'm not looking forward to reading i dont think its bad, there's nothing i really hate. it just seemed bland to me. i wasn't invested in any of the characters or conflicts.
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Jan 9, 2022 14:40:17 GMT -5
I can completely understand that. It defiently isn't the strongest arc. In my opinion, The Apprentice's Quest wasn't the best start to the arc, Thunder and Shadow wasn't bad and Shattered Sky was the peak of the arc, it's one of my favourite Warriors books outside of literally everything from TPB. The arc went really downhill and I'm not looking forward to reading i dont think its bad, there's nothing i really hate. it just seemed bland to me. i wasn't invested in any of the characters or conflicts. I can see that. I'm not really attached to any of the protagonists and one of the only characters that was interesting me was Needletail. Violetshine and Twigbranch are pretty "meh" characters and Alderheart lost my interest after book 1.
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Post by Fireleap on Jan 9, 2022 14:52:08 GMT -5
Darktail isn't Onestar's son, let him live until book 6, make RiverClan or WindClan his target.
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