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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jan 8, 2022 18:35:51 GMT -5
...will he go to the Dark Forest? (and yes, I am considering that maybe he isn't alive anymore, but I feel like he would've made an appearance in the DF or smth if he did.) We know now that Darktail did go to the Dark Forest. Maybe because his father was a Clan cat, and Darktail did join SkyClan at some point (even it was temporarily)? He was a direct villain to the Clans, and he harmed both ShadowClan and RiverClan severely. I feel like those are some reasons he may have ended up in the Dark Forest, instead of a random afterlife like Scourge, who didn't join a warrior Clan.
But what about Sol? He joined SkyClan. He was a villain who harmed (or tried to harm) ThunderClan, ShadowClan and WindClan. Do you guys think he will go the DF when he dies?
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Jan 8, 2022 18:37:43 GMT -5
I think you have to believe in StarClan first(Can't remember if he did or not), but the rules are a bit unclear. It's defiantly possible though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 19:02:17 GMT -5
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 8, 2022 21:02:45 GMT -5
i dont think so. he'd either be a ghost or my personal headcanon: join his family's afterlife space (since i believe all cats in the warriors universe have their own ancestor planes like how the clans have starclan, the rushing water tribe has their endless hunting tribe, etc. so i think sol and his kin have their own space as loners or kittypets).
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 9, 2022 9:13:06 GMT -5
...will he go to the Dark Forest? (and yes, I am considering that maybe he isn't alive anymore, but I feel like he would've made an appearance in the DF or smth if he did.) We know now that Darktail did go to the Dark Forest. Maybe because his father was a Clan cat, and Darktail did join SkyClan at some point (even it was temporarily)? He was a direct villain to the Clans, and he harmed both ShadowClan and RiverClan severely. I feel like those are some reasons he may have ended up in the Dark Forest, instead of a random afterlife like Scourge, who didn't join a warrior Clan.
But what about Sol? He joined SkyClan. He was a villain who harmed (or tried to harm) ThunderClan, ShadowClan and WindClan. Do you guys think he will go the DF when he dies? Darktail did not go to the Dark Forest. Ashfur says this explicitly and clearly. "“They died recently, like your Clanmates,” Ashfur told him. “Their spirits were fresh. It was easy enough to bring them here while StarClan was . . .” He hesitated, as though looking for the right word. “Busy.”" He BROUGHT them there with his spirit powers, they wouldn't have been there otherwise. Anyway, as far as Sol goes, I think he's rejected Starclan and the clans and would go to a rogue afterlife.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jan 9, 2022 10:34:59 GMT -5
I highly doubt it. Since he completely disrespected and rejected even the idea of StarClan itself multiple times in the books. Although I did think that he might have known and possibly interacted with at least one Dark Forest spirit at some point upon reading The Forgotten Warrior for the first time because of how Hawkfrost spoke about Sol to Ivypool in that book. But he was probably just happy Sol was back among the Clans to mess with them again and did not know him personally. I'm hoping that Sol is either already dead and a rogue spirit in the afterlife or shows up in ASC to finally complete his annoying arc so I'll never have to read about him again.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jan 9, 2022 16:02:21 GMT -5
...will he go to the Dark Forest? (and yes, I am considering that maybe he isn't alive anymore, but I feel like he would've made an appearance in the DF or smth if he did.) We know now that Darktail did go to the Dark Forest. Maybe because his father was a Clan cat, and Darktail did join SkyClan at some point (even it was temporarily)? He was a direct villain to the Clans, and he harmed both ShadowClan and RiverClan severely. I feel like those are some reasons he may have ended up in the Dark Forest, instead of a random afterlife like Scourge, who didn't join a warrior Clan.
But what about Sol? He joined SkyClan. He was a villain who harmed (or tried to harm) ThunderClan, ShadowClan and WindClan. Do you guys think he will go the DF when he dies? Darktail did not go to the Dark Forest. Ashfur says this explicitly and clearly. "“They died recently, like your Clanmates,” Ashfur told him. “Their spirits were fresh. It was easy enough to bring them here while StarClan was . . .” He hesitated, as though looking for the right word. “Busy.”" He BROUGHT them there with his spirit powers, they wouldn't have been there otherwise. Anyway, as far as Sol goes, I think he's rejected Starclan and the clans and would go to a rogue afterlife. But Darktail didn't die recently at that time? Darktail's rogues did not go the Dark Forest, and they were brought there by Ashfur. Darktail did go the Dark Forest. He himself said it. "Oh, my father. I lived long enough among warriors to earn my place here." That is what he said.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 9, 2022 16:49:29 GMT -5
Darktail did not go to the Dark Forest. Ashfur says this explicitly and clearly. "“They died recently, like your Clanmates,” Ashfur told him. “Their spirits were fresh. It was easy enough to bring them here while StarClan was . . .” He hesitated, as though looking for the right word. “Busy.”" He BROUGHT them there with his spirit powers, they wouldn't have been there otherwise. Anyway, as far as Sol goes, I think he's rejected Starclan and the clans and would go to a rogue afterlife. But Darktail didn't die recently at that time? Darktail's rogues did not go the Dark Forest, and they were brought there by Ashfur. Darktail did go the Dark Forest. He himself said it. "Oh, my father. I lived long enough among warriors to earn my place here." That is what he said. Darktail was as recently dead as his other rogues, which are the ones Ashfur summoned up. Logic would dictate then that when Ashfur says "they", he is including Darktail among the group since he died in the same battle in which some other rogues presumably were also killed. Darktail's statement is just him trashtalking, it's overruled by Ashfur's own statement given Ashfur is in a position where he knows far more about how things work than Darktail.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jan 9, 2022 17:36:15 GMT -5
But Darktail didn't die recently at that time? Darktail's rogues did not go the Dark Forest, and they were brought there by Ashfur. Darktail did go the Dark Forest. He himself said it. "Oh, my father. I lived long enough among warriors to earn my place here." That is what he said. Darktail was as recently dead as his other rogues, which are the ones Ashfur summoned up. Logic would dictate then that when Ashfur says "they", he is including Darktail among the group since he died in the same battle in which some other rogues presumably were also killed. Darktail's statement is just him trashtalking, it's overruled by Ashfur's own statement given Ashfur is in a position where he knows far more about how things work than Darktail. It is never mentioned that Darktail was trashtalking. It is also never mentioned which specific rogues were summoned up. The canon treats Darktail as a real Dark Forest cat, so that is how I treat him.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jan 9, 2022 17:53:46 GMT -5
But Darktail didn't die recently at that time? Darktail's rogues did not go the Dark Forest, and they were brought there by Ashfur. Darktail did go the Dark Forest. He himself said it. "Oh, my father. I lived long enough among warriors to earn my place here." That is what he said. Darktail was as recently dead as his other rogues, which are the ones Ashfur summoned up. Logic would dictate then that when Ashfur says "they", he is including Darktail among the group since he died in the same battle in which some other rogues presumably were also killed. Darktail's statement is just him trashtalking, it's overruled by Ashfur's own statement given Ashfur is in a position where he knows far more about how things work than Darktail. It could definitely be possible that Darktail was summoned to help Ashfur instead of descending to it immediately after his death, but until the story or the Erins actually adress this I will keep believing he actually did go the Dark Forest. It's not a case of "this is it, that's how it went and any other interpretations of this situation are just not true". The story treats it confusing, and while I fully believe Darktail did go the Dark Forest, the other interpretation is a possibility too.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jan 9, 2022 19:06:22 GMT -5
I doubt Sol will tbh. He didn't believe in StarClan in the first place and probably only came to the Clans to mess with them. By this point, he's most likely in his own version of the afterlife.
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