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Post by Redstorm on Jan 1, 2022 15:29:53 GMT -5
As we see Crowfeather finally made his pick with Leafpool instead of Feathertail. What did you think of the pick? I always saw it coming, but I still really enjoyed that there was some closure on it.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 1, 2022 15:38:58 GMT -5
I didn't really see that scene as him picking Leafpool, imo, but it is pretty weird to see how ooc Feathertail was, personally I'm not a fan of it, or LeafCrow. I was happier when they maturely moved past their relationship back in CT, but I guess Kate can't help but regress characters as usual.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 1, 2022 15:43:17 GMT -5
even if it wasnt what the scene was about (since they ruined and butchered feathertails character by making her act jealous for some reason), crowfeather "picking" leafpool should always be the result. i'm a big leaf x crow simp to the very end. his true love is leafpool. thats it.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jan 1, 2022 16:34:27 GMT -5
Imagine picking your one-night-stand over your high school girlfriend who you actually spent significant time with.
I mean, both picks are kind of pathetic, but I feel like Feathertail should have been the way to go.
(Disclaimer: haven't read TBC, but I have read all of TNP, Po3, OotS, CT and LW)
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Jan 1, 2022 16:48:10 GMT -5
While I haven't read TBC (I've read spoilers, trying to get to actually reading it someday), it makes sense for Crowfeather to choose Leafpool, I don't even ship LeafCrow. I don't like Feathertail's jealousy, I just don't feel she would act that way. But it's very clear that they both love each other.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jan 1, 2022 17:16:13 GMT -5
I would have preferred Feathertail, but after everything he's been through with Leafpool, i came to the conclusion that she's the love of his life, instead of Feathertail. While both were silly crushes, he spent so much time with Leafpool, that i think it even developed to something deeper.
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Post by cheeselamps on Jan 1, 2022 17:44:47 GMT -5
It was patetic. Feathertail had no reason to be jealous since she encouraged Leafpool to be with Crowfeather. It contradicts her character.
And no, I don't support LeafCrow. I've always hated them together, even more now. After CT, it is obvious that his true love as always been Feathertail. He even admitted that his love for Leafpool was fading away, and she seemed to finally move on as well. I would have loved to see them interacting as friends, just like Crowfeather and Nightcloud. But what we got instead, just no. Grow up already, you two. You were doing it great.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jan 1, 2022 17:48:01 GMT -5
I hate it and I do not and will not consider it canon. But yeah, I'm biased, because I do consider Graystripe choosing Millie canon. I just don't like LeafCrow and it doesn't make sense for him to choose the character he had a one-night-stand with and spent his life being passive agressive to over the character he loved so much that he almost commited suicide because of her death. Kate couldn't help herself.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jan 1, 2022 17:48:36 GMT -5
It was patetic. Feathertail had no reason to be jealous since she encouraged Leafpool to be with Crowfeather. It contradicts her character. And no, I don't support LeafCrow. I've always hated them together, even more now. After CT, it is obvious that his true love as always been Feathertail. He even admitted that his love for Leafpool was fading away, and she seemed to finally move on as well. I would have loved to see them interacting as friends, just like Crowfeather and Nightcloud. But what we got instead, just no. Grow up already, you two. You were doing it great. THIS
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jan 1, 2022 18:30:51 GMT -5
I like LeafCrow but I like FeatherCrow as well, so I'm kind of neutral. I just wish that Feathertail didn't act so OOC- it was upsetting seeing her be so jealous.
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Post by aether on Jan 1, 2022 18:36:00 GMT -5
It makes complete sense that he chose Leafpool over Feathertail seeing as Feathertail was his first, short-lived love but Leafpool was more meaningful and engaged.
I've not read the scene (haven't read TBC but I've read the spoilers) and I don't like the idea of Feathertail being OOC. I always thought it would be LeafxCrow with Feathertail's blessing, as Feathertail was happy that Leafpool could make Crowfeather happy. ALSO because Feathertail travels two skies; StarClan and The Tribe Of Endless Hunting meaning she simply isn't as present.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Jan 1, 2022 19:07:08 GMT -5
I'm biased because I cannot stand either CrowLeaf or CrowFeather (would have preferred for CrowSquirrel and BrambleFeather to happen in TNP or something else since there are many possibilties instead of the canon outcome).
But going based on what actually happened canonically it does make sense for Crowfeather to choose Leafpool over Feathertail. Yes, Feathertail was his first love and yes, he named himself after her and lost the will to go on without her for a while. But, guess who the writing team decided to present as the cat to help him move past that pain? Leafpool. Who did he save in the very last moment and confessed his feelings to despite fearing that he was betraying Feathertail? Leafpool. Who did he run away with even knowing it was wrong and realizing she would leave him before she even told him herself? Leafpool. Who did he (unknowingly) have kits with and still stare after for a long time when it had all been over for a while? Leafpool. Feathertail was his first love. That does not mean she had to be his last one.
Once again, for the record I despise both CrowFeather and CrowLeaf as ships and also how Feathertail and Silverstream were portrayed in ALitM. That was so not it.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jan 1, 2022 19:50:02 GMT -5
Imo, i don't think that just because Crowfeather and Leafpool moved on in real life, dosen't mean they can't be together in the afterlife. They remained mature when they were alive, but when they are all dead, in a place whitout rules, restrictions, and expectations, why shouldn't they be allowed to be in a relationship again, since they have the freedom to do so? Since they would still pursue a relationship had the warrior code not gotten in their way in real life? It's baffling to me that it seems that just because Crow and Leaf already broke up once, dosen't mean they can't pursue a relationship again given the chance, when they have already forgiven and healed from all their previous disagreements, and there's nothing getting in the way of their relationship now in StarClan.
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Post by thewinterblaze on Jan 1, 2022 19:55:41 GMT -5
I expected it. It has been confirmed that Feathertail and Crowfeather wouldn't have been together even if she lived, and IMO CrowLeaf had much more development.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Jan 1, 2022 20:01:26 GMT -5
I expected it. It has been confirmed that Feathertail and Crowfeather wouldn't have been together even if she lived, and IMO CrowLeaf had much more development. Exactly. While i'm a hardcore FeatherCrow shipper, i also love LeafCrow. While i belive he had a deep connection with both, i think FeatherCrow was more like a crush, while LeafCrow was pure love. Rushed relationship? Yeah, but that dosen't mean he didin't fall in love with her. Having a crush and falling in love are different things.
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Post by Rainfire on Jan 1, 2022 23:11:42 GMT -5
I'm just neutral because I don't like LeafCrow or FeatherCrow. No matter what happens, I just hope they can all eventually be happy in StarClan without any jealously or bitterness from any side
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2022 23:21:58 GMT -5
i’m personally a fan of crowfeather x his divorce papers
(disclaimer: i like crowfeather i just don’t personally ship him with anyone and think he’s more enjoyable when you read him as a tired divorced old man)
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 2, 2022 5:47:57 GMT -5
I honestly think people give CrowLeaf more credit than it actually deserves. They barely had little to no development in general, and screentime doesn't automatically = development either. I want to chalk it up to nostalgia probably, but Crow and Leaf in reality had like no build-up.
The first time Leafpool notices Crowfeather, it's when they're both apprentices, and on their trip to the lake with all the clans. And it's her watching him from afar while Feathertail and Silverstream watch over him.
For the majority of the trip, he was passive-aggressive and snappy towards Leaf, which is hardly what I would call development, and he only starts to chill out near the end of the trip.
The only other time is literally when Onestar tells him to take Leaf back to her camp, where he just blatantly ignores her and doesn't say anything the whole time. And this is literally the only scene we have as a warning before the sudden out of nowhere rebound confession he makes to her during the rebellion, where he repeatedly called her Feathertail after saving her life??
The fact that Leafpool reciprocated at all is honestly baffling, and more out of nowhere than Bristlefrost returning Rootspring's feelings. At least Bristlefrost and Rootspring actually hung around one another and had four books worth of development before their confession scene even happened. And thankfully Bristlefrost never saw Rootspring as Stemleaf like Crowfeather saw Leafpool as Feathertail at one point.
After the whole confession scene with LeafCrow they didn't interact much again, since Leafpool was being kept busy with medicine cat duties. She and Crowfeather don't meet again in secrecy until after the gathering, and after a few times literally got caught. They run away for like what, one night? Only for them to run back after listening to Midnight. And then Leafpool chooses her clan over Crowfeather, they don't interact for moons, she hides the fact that she had his kids, and we know the rest. She quite literally just had like a one-night stand with the guy, Bluestar style just less development, then dropped him like a hot potato.
And even when the secret came out, it's Crowfeather that threw Leafpool under the bus, and rejected his kits in TC, while using Night and Breeze to seem loyal. For two full arcs there was nothing between them, and they didn't get any proper closure until CT. Only for the Erins to beat a dead horse again in TBC?? It just doesn't make sense.
Out of all the Crow-related ships, he has the least amount of build up, and relationship screen time with Leafpool, even CrowNight out lasted it, and they don't even love each other. I just don't see how, at least logically, Crow would choose Leaf over Feather, especially after CT. I'm starting to honestly just think it's Kate being inconsistent and bias again, and then writing characters really ooc just to fit her personal agenda tbh.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jan 2, 2022 6:34:41 GMT -5
While I prefer Leaf x Crow, my best scenario would be that all three of them get along. I've always liked the idea of Feathertail and Leafpool being friends and exsisting peacefully together.
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Post by crowspirit on Jan 2, 2022 10:39:23 GMT -5
I think it's weird since in Crowfeatherʼs Trial it was pretty obvious in my opinion that Crowfeather and Leafpool had no romantic feelings for each other anymore and he still liked Feathertail. So yeah, I don't really understand his choice.
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Post by thewinterblaze on Jan 2, 2022 12:39:33 GMT -5
It was patetic. Feathertail had no reason to be jealous since she encouraged Leafpool to be with Crowfeather. It contradicts her character. Exactly!
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Post by dnacat on Jan 2, 2022 13:08:07 GMT -5
I've always hated the idea that cats have to 'choose' between mates when they go to StarClan - particularly in regards to Greystripe and Firestar (back when the "will he be with Spottedleaf when he dies?" question used to be an issue).
I wasn't too surprised when I read it, no matter how many times Leafpool and Crowfeather have the, "I'm over you" conversation, the Erins will always fall back on their relationship and will die defending LeafCrow (and, honestly, I will eat it up every time). But they really didn't have to butcher Feathertail's character to do it, and it's disappointing that the Erins can't seem to break the habit of pitting their female characters against each-other over men for unnecessary drama.
So, I'm not against Crowfeather choosing Leafpool in the end - but I am against them sacrificing Feathertail and making her the jealous ex-girlfriend archetype to do it.
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Post by Aqua on Jan 2, 2022 13:23:24 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. Leafpool has done a lot for him, and you can tell Crowfeather really cared about her because he was so hurt after she left him, and was concerned about her when they told him about the accident in SqH. I prefer Crow x Leaf because of their history together.
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Post by Redstorm on Jan 2, 2022 14:04:16 GMT -5
I believe Vicky shipped CrowLeaf while Kate was more pro FeatherCrow. I remember Crowfeather's Trial showcases FeatherCrow more. I'd guess the CrowLeaf decision in TBC was more a group decision.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 2, 2022 14:18:30 GMT -5
I believe Vicky shipped CrowLeaf while Kate was more pro FeatherCrow. I remember Crowfeather's Trial showcases FeatherCrow more. I'd guess the CrowLeaf decision in TBC was more a group decision. this. thats why i dont take CT into consideration at all. the SE is full of bias that doesnt show up for the rest of the main series. it's always been leaf x crow in the main series imo.
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Post by cygna on Feb 13, 2022 11:34:27 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. Leafpool has done a lot for him, and you can tell Crowfeather really cared about her because he was so hurt after she left him, and was concerned about her when they told him about the accident in SqH. I prefer Crow x Leaf because of their history together. Leafpool has also done a lot to him, like things that affected his life negatively. She said she’d run away with him but screwed him over for her clan, never told him about his own children, and told him she loved him in front of his then mate and son. There is no coming back from that imo. Feathertail on the other hand never did anything that hurt Crowfeather. Personally I found the choice completely ridiculous.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Feb 13, 2022 11:48:20 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. Leafpool has done a lot for him, and you can tell Crowfeather really cared about her because he was so hurt after she left him, and was concerned about her when they told him about the accident in SqH. I prefer Crow x Leaf because of their history together. Leafpool has also done a lot to him, like things that affected his life negatively. She said she’d run away with him but screwed him over for her clan, never told him about his own children, and told him she loved him in front of his then mate and son. There is no coming back from that imo. Feathertail on the other hand never did anything that hurt Crowfeather. Personally I found the choice completely ridiculous. Pretty sure this is a necropost since the last reply on this thread was January 2nd. Sand 🎃, please lock this thread.
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