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Post by Rainfire on Dec 27, 2021 13:33:40 GMT -5
So the "Introducing Frostpaw" article on the website has confirmed Frostpaw to be light gray. How do you feel about that? Happy? Disappointed? Couldn't care less? What were you hoping that she would look like?
I know a character's coat color is an extremely trivial thing to get worked up about, but I'm kinda disappointed because main series protags being solid gray has become pretty tiring/boring to me at this point. Despite the fact that she definitely looked gray on the cover of River, I was still hoping that she would at least have some white patches or something. I know there's a chance that she could have some unique markings that weren't mentioned in the article, but eh, I'm not holding out much hope.
Depending on how I feel when the book comes out, I might just go ahead and imagine her however I want to, like how I did with Bristlefrost lol. I personally like seeing Frostpaw as white with subtle black tipping, like a Chinchilla Persian!
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Dec 27, 2021 13:42:17 GMT -5
I would prefer her not to be another gray protagonist, but it doesn't really bother me too much because it seems like she'll have a fun and interesting story. I imagine her to be a fluffy, curly furred, pure white cat with clear blue eyes.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Dec 27, 2021 14:57:41 GMT -5
To be honest I don't think her fur colour is a trivial issue at all, I totally understand why people would get very passionate about it
For starters we need cats to look unique because there's hundreds of them, so main characters need to stand out
Characters like Redtail and Ravenpaw I can recognise immediately in fan art and MAPs because of their unique markings
But then with all these grey cats... Sometimes I see them in videos and artwork and I just get confused because I have no idea what character I'm even looking at lol
So yea, I'm pretty unhappy with Frostpaw, and the Shadowclan protag too, Sunsomething since she's also an Alderheart clone
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 27, 2021 15:00:52 GMT -5
why do the writers like gray cats so much
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Post by Aqua on Dec 27, 2021 16:04:15 GMT -5
I don't think a character's design matters as long as Frostpaw is a decent character.
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Post by *Faith* on Dec 27, 2021 16:53:54 GMT -5
Aside from her light gray coat, she also kind of looks like she has a white muzzle on the cover of River. That or it's just the lighting.
I'm still wondering what Graykit and Mistkit look like. Though, I'm pretty sure Graykit also has a gray coat. Or he just has gray eyes like Reedwhisker and Brook do. Every cat with the mist prefix on the wiki seems to be a gray cat. That includes Mistcloud, Mistystar, Mistkit (TC) and Mist (LO). There might be more, but these cats all have gray pelts.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Dec 27, 2021 17:21:59 GMT -5
disappointing tbh. i like my headcanon of her chocolate/lilac shade coat instead (silvery-white with faded brown throughout).
im sick of and tired of all these gray protags in a row. dovewing, twigbranch, bristlefrost, and now frostpaw....when will this end...? please? i want a string of tortie and calico protags next to compensate lmao
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Dec 27, 2021 17:22:52 GMT -5
Aside from her light gray coat, she also kind of looks like she has a white muzzle on the cover of River. That or it's just the lighting. I'm still wondering what Graykit and Mistkit look like. Though, I'm pretty sure Graykit also has a gray coat. Or he just has gray eyes like Reedwhisker and Brook do. Every cat with the mist prefix on the wiki seems to be a gray cat. That includes Mistcloud, Mistystar, Mistkit (TC) and Mist (LO). There might be more, but these cats all have gray pelts. Sorry this is a bit off topic but, I never realized Reedwhisker had gray eyes?! That’s really cool!
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Dec 27, 2021 17:24:58 GMT -5
I'm rather disappointed since she is thus just yet another protagonist with a soely grey pelt in the main series like Dovewing, Gray Wing, Clear Sky, Twigbranch and Bristlefrost. I still hope Frostpaw will at least have some white flecks or markings but actually would have overall preferred her with white or silver fur instead.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Dec 27, 2021 17:44:33 GMT -5
why do the writers like gray cats so much all that cloudy/dreary weather that frequents Europe I’d imagine would dampen their inspiration, as many writers are known to take heavy inspiration from the environment/ weather surrounding them, so Gray skies could influence them in conjuring all these Generic Gray cats into existence.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Dec 27, 2021 17:55:00 GMT -5
why do the writers like gray cats so much all that cloudy/dreary weather that frequents Europe I’d imagine would dampen their inspiration, as many writers are known to take heavy inspiration from the environment/ weather surrounding them, so Gray skies could influence them in conjuring all these Generic Gray cats into existence. As someone who is European (from Germany), I would just like to say that our weather here, at least where I live, is not generally as bad as the one you are probably referring to. Which is the one in Great Britain since that is where most of the writers actually live. Great Britain is also no longer officially considered part of Europe as of February 1st 2020 so there's that.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 27, 2021 17:55:51 GMT -5
Aside from her light gray coat, she also kind of looks like she has a white muzzle on the cover of River. That or it's just the lighting. The new cover artist draws pretty much every cat with a white-ish muzzle, so sadly I don't think that's part of her canon description.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Dec 27, 2021 18:04:05 GMT -5
all that cloudy/dreary weather that frequents Europe I’d imagine would dampen their inspiration, as many writers are known to take heavy inspiration from the environment/ weather surrounding them, so Gray skies could influence them in conjuring all these Generic Gray cats into existence. As someone who is European (from Germany), I would just like to say that our weather here, at least where I live, is not generally as bad as the one you are probably referring to. Which is the one in Great Britain since that is where most of the writers actually live. Great Britain is also no longer officially considered part of Europe as of February 1st 2020 so there's that. well then Old Europe lol, I’m not Profusely versed with how the weather is over in Great Britain, though in the many British films and television series, it’s a pretty usual consensus that the weather is cloudy or overcast. Could also just be the editors are incredibly lazy, or the writers just not having the time to come up with creative/dynamic coats/fur colors for ever expanding cast of faceless characters that are lucky to show up on the page 1 or 2 through your the entire arc, and having to keep up with HC rigorous publishing schedule, and with Cherith Baldry undoubtedly approaching retirement age here soon, she might be becoming less invested and passionate with the series as a whole, who knows.
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Post by Katanaheart on Dec 27, 2021 18:04:33 GMT -5
I’m disappointed as her fur color could have been a good balance with her fellow protagonists (Sunbeam who I’m hoping will have more white at some point once the covers stop having weird lighting.) We also haven’t had a white cat as a protagonist, with her prefix hinting as such. (Clear Sky being the only one who comes somewhat close with how light Gray his fur is.) Even a blue-gray protagonist would have been nice but nope.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Dec 27, 2021 18:09:24 GMT -5
As someone who is European (from Germany), I would just like to say that our weather here, at least where I live, is not generally as bad as the one you are probably referring to. Which is the one in Great Britain since that is where most of the writers actually live. Great Britain is also no longer officially considered part of Europe as of February 1st 2020 so there's that. well then Old Europe lol, I’m not Profusely versed with how the weather is over in Great Britain, though in the many British films and television series, it’s a pretty usual consensus that the weather is cloudy or overcast. Could also just be the editors are incredibly lazy, or the writers just not having the time to come up with creative/dynamic coats/fur colors for ever expanding cast of faceless characters that are lucky to show up on the page 1 or 2 through your the entire arc, and having to keep up with HC rigorous publishing schedule, and with Cherith Baldry undoubtedly approaching retirement age here soon, she might be becoming less invested and passionate with the series as a whole, who knows. I personally don't really care if there are a few more grey cats as background characters. My issue and the one getting discussed here in regards to Frostpaw's design was about how many of the protagonists now happened to be grey throughout the main series.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Dec 27, 2021 18:20:12 GMT -5
well then Old Europe lol, I’m not Profusely versed with how the weather is over in Great Britain, though in the many British films and television series, it’s a pretty usual consensus that the weather is cloudy or overcast. Could also just be the editors are incredibly lazy, or the writers just not having the time to come up with creative/dynamic coats/fur colors for ever expanding cast of faceless characters that are lucky to show up on the page 1 or 2 through your the entire arc, and having to keep up with HC rigorous publishing schedule, and with Cherith Baldry undoubtedly approaching retirement age here soon, she might be becoming less invested and passionate with the series as a whole, who knows. I personally don't really care if there are a few more grey cats as background characters. My issue and the one getting discussed here in regards to Frostpaw's design was about how many of the protagonists now happened to be grey throughout the main series. sorry if I was appearing to go off topic, forgot to explicitly list Protagonist characters as well as background characters. While I do wish we’d get more variety with the characters in regards to their coats color and design, it doesn’t bother me much overall. I’m much more concerned about them making intriguing, interesting characters that aren’t as flat and tasteless as a unsalted saltine cracker.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Dec 27, 2021 19:02:24 GMT -5
I would've liked her to be a white cat or a tortie, but her being gray means that I have more fuel for my agenda of her being Mistystar's great-grandkit. Kate likes to think that Reedwhisker and Duskfur are mates, and Duskfur is Curlfeather's mother. I like when protagonists don't come from any 'important' lineage, but Mistystar and Frostpaw (and Reedwhisker) being kin could lead to some fun character moments and heightened drama when Misty inevitably kicks it.
Maybe they like gray cats so much because of British Shorthairs? They're the most popular pedigree cat in the UK, and a majority of them are gray. Maybe the Erins are just writing what they know, lol.
Anyways, at the moment I'm picturing her as a light blue-gray cat with white mits and a white tail-tip, hence the "Frost-" prefix.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Dec 27, 2021 20:23:14 GMT -5
I wish that Frostpaw at least had distinct markings that show out on a plain gray coat. It's pretty sad that she looks so plain
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Post by Flamefrost on Dec 28, 2021 7:19:51 GMT -5
I headcanon her as a seal point and nothing can change my mind.
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Post by Goldy from Dappleclan on Dec 28, 2021 7:26:17 GMT -5
all that cloudy/dreary weather that frequents Europe I’d imagine would dampen their inspiration, as many writers are known to take heavy inspiration from the environment/ weather surrounding them, so Gray skies could influence them in conjuring all these Generic Gray cats into existence. As someone who is European (from Germany), I would just like to say that our weather here, at least where I live, is not generally as bad as the one you are probably referring to. Which is the one in Great Britain since that is where most of the writers actually live. Great Britain is also no longer officially considered part of Europe as of February 1st 2020 so there's that. A bit off topic but Britain is still in Europe, it's just not a part of the European Union (it'd be impossible for Britain to leave Europe unless it grew legs lol)
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Post by Darkfang ☾ on Dec 28, 2021 11:41:34 GMT -5
As someone who is European (from Germany), I would just like to say that our weather here, at least where I live, is not generally as bad as the one you are probably referring to. Which is the one in Great Britain since that is where most of the writers actually live. Great Britain is also no longer officially considered part of Europe as of February 1st 2020 so there's that. well then Old Europe lol, I’m not Profusely versed with how the weather is over in Great Britain, though in the many British films and television series, it’s a pretty usual consensus that the weather is cloudy or overcast. Could also just be the editors are incredibly lazy, or the writers just not having the time to come up with creative/dynamic coats/fur colors for ever expanding cast of faceless characters that are lucky to show up on the page 1 or 2 through your the entire arc, and having to keep up with HC rigorous publishing schedule, and with Cherith Baldry undoubtedly approaching retirement age here soon, she might be becoming less invested and passionate with the series as a whole, who knows. i can confirm the weather over here in great britain is indeed very grey pretty much all the time. they love using the sky colour as inspiration for pelt colour clearly.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Dec 28, 2021 13:20:06 GMT -5
I wish she was pure white, but the Erins seem to love plain gray cats. I really want to know why
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Dec 28, 2021 15:20:22 GMT -5
As someone who is European (from Germany), I would just like to say that our weather here, at least where I live, is not generally as bad as the one you are probably referring to. Which is the one in Great Britain since that is where most of the writers actually live. Great Britain is also no longer officially considered part of Europe as of February 1st 2020 so there's that. A bit off topic but Britain is still in Europe, it's just not a part of the European Union (it'd be impossible for Britain to leave Europe unless it grew legs lol) Absolutely. I actually discussed this with my mum today and she also corrected me that GB is still part of Europe but not the EU (European Union). I realized my mistake just then.
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Dec 29, 2021 9:17:39 GMT -5
well then Old Europe lol, I’m not Profusely versed with how the weather is over in Great Britain, though in the many British films and television series, it’s a pretty usual consensus that the weather is cloudy or overcast. Could also just be the editors are incredibly lazy, or the writers just not having the time to come up with creative/dynamic coats/fur colors for ever expanding cast of faceless characters that are lucky to show up on the page 1 or 2 through your the entire arc, and having to keep up with HC rigorous publishing schedule, and with Cherith Baldry undoubtedly approaching retirement age here soon, she might be becoming less invested and passionate with the series as a whole, who knows. i can confirm the weather over here in great britain is indeed very grey pretty much all the time. they love using the sky colour as inspiration for pelt colour clearly. The inspiration matches the sky for everything it seems.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Dec 29, 2021 9:57:09 GMT -5
It's disappointing if they don't make her a light gray tabby. I really don't want another plain gray protagonist, I wished she was white because we never had a white protagonist before.
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Post by Featherstar on Jan 1, 2022 3:12:09 GMT -5
Maybe.
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Post by aether on Jan 1, 2022 3:46:10 GMT -5
It would be cool to see a white, black, or just a regular tabby cat but honestly I don't really care what colour they are when reading. But someone mentioned fan-art (something I didn't consider) and I thought it was a valid point. Even a lot of the new official art I struggle to recognize who is who unless I'm looking at characters from POT and earlier (where each protag had noticeable differences).
For example:
You look at this and you know exactly who these 3 cats are
But... who exactly are these two?
This could just be me since I've not kept up too much with the latest books. However I don't think it's the different in art style, because you could have the first picture in the same 'realistic' style and still know who they are.
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Post by Featherstar on Jan 1, 2022 20:41:39 GMT -5
Why is Frostpaw another gray cat though?
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