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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2021 15:13:07 GMT -5
In line with the other previous threads! Who do you think the worst mentor is?
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Post by thewinterblaze on Nov 30, 2021 15:14:26 GMT -5
Greystripe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2021 16:06:35 GMT -5
Graystripe, Ashfur
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Nov 30, 2021 16:14:48 GMT -5
Definitely Graystripe, dude didn't even train his own apprentice. I guess also Brokentail because was pretty abusive, but that's a basic pick.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 30, 2021 16:18:23 GMT -5
GRAYSTRIPE
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Nov 30, 2021 16:49:16 GMT -5
Tigerheart
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 30, 2021 17:08:54 GMT -5
Tigerclaw, tried to get his apprentice killed with the adder I believe
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Nov 30, 2021 21:20:42 GMT -5
Well, Graystripe basically abandoned his apprentice, so there's that.
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Post by crowspirit on Dec 1, 2021 1:47:08 GMT -5
Graystripe, Brokenstar and Tigerstar are at the top of the crap heap.
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Post by Dovesong on Dec 1, 2021 1:51:56 GMT -5
Tigerclaw was extremely abusive towards Ravenpaw. He treated him like dirt, terrified him, sent him on a mission purely to get him in trouble, and literally tried to murder him, so that easily tops anyone else in my opinion.
Definitely agree that Graystripe was a horrible mentor as well, though. I have never understood why Brackenfur treated him like an amazing mentor when Fireheart was the one who did most of his training and Graystripe was always abandoning him for Silverstream.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Dec 1, 2021 7:56:55 GMT -5
Brightheart (then again, she was given rude, difficult Jaypaw) Nightpelt (mostly because he had Brokenpaw as an apprentice) Jayfeather (at the beginning; he gets better later on)
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Post by Fireleap on Dec 1, 2021 9:06:04 GMT -5
Graystripe, Ashfur, Twigbranch
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Post by Aqua on Dec 1, 2021 9:11:37 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone else says. But Graystripe IS a horrible mentor. You don't just pass on your job that your leader trusted you with to your best friend and take advantage of him. Not to mention the same guy also went off to see Silverstream during the day, and he wasn't even there for his clan when they needed him for battles, and spread greencough throughout his clan because he needed to see Silverstream. Gray didn't care about his clan or his duties, neglecting everything he had to do for Silverstream's sake. He was very annoying and frankly, I get annoyed when people defend this behavior. Graystripe was irresponsible, and didn't want to do his job, passing that onto Fireheart just to see a sexy cat he barley knew. What a jackass.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Dec 1, 2021 10:33:11 GMT -5
As much as I like Graystripe, he was a horrible mentor to Brackenpaw/fur. Tigerstar I, Ashfur, Brokenstar, and iirc Thistleclaw were all bad mentors as well.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Dec 1, 2021 13:30:16 GMT -5
Thistleclaw, Tigerstar I, Darkstripe, Graystripe and Twigbranch
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Dec 1, 2021 17:52:00 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone else says. But Graystripe IS a horrible mentor. You don't just pass on your job that your leader trusted you with to your best friend and take advantage of him. Not to mention the same guy also went off to see Silverstream during the day, and he wasn't even there for his clan when they needed him for battles, and spread greencough throughout his clan because he needed to see Silverstream. Gray didn't care about his clan or his duties, neglecting everything he had to do for Silverstream's sake. He was very annoying and frankly, I get annoyed when people defend this behavior. Graystripe was irresponsible, and didn't want to do his job, passing that onto Fireheart just to see a sexy cat he barley knew. What a jackass. I definitely don't think anyone here would argue he was a good mentor during that time. Thankfully, it's a small part of his otherwise enjoyable character
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Dec 1, 2021 17:57:26 GMT -5
Graystripe definitely. Tigerclaw, Brokenstar, Twigbranch, and Ashfur also come to mind
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Dec 1, 2021 21:45:44 GMT -5
Aside from all the horrible mentors mentioned above, I’m gonna throw Dustpelt in there for laughs, because Squirrelpaw ran off for moons, so he must of been something terribly awful. not too many mentors that have misplaced their apprentices before lol. i personally would cut him some slack. it's not his fault squirrelflight was a brat from day 1 and dug her nose in a situation she didnt belong lol. poor dustpelt missed an opportunity to be a mentor again because of her dumb reasons for leaving.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Dec 1, 2021 23:15:23 GMT -5
Aside from all the horrible mentors mentioned above, I’m gonna throw Dustpelt in there for laughs, because Squirrelpaw ran off for moons, so he must of been something terribly awful. not too many mentors that have misplaced their apprentices before lol. i personally would cut him some slack. it's not his fault squirrelflight was a brat from day 1 and dug her nose in a situation she didnt belong lol. poor dustpelt missed an opportunity to be a mentor again because of her dumb reasons for leaving. I was being jocular, hence why I said for laughs, I don’t fault Dustpelt for Squirrelpaw running off like an delinquent . But I guess wasn’t as funny as I thought it was. Oh well
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Post by Cloudstorm on Dec 1, 2021 23:35:12 GMT -5
But in all seriousness. Mentors I found to be stinkers .
Leafpool, I know Jaypaw wasn’t the most amicable or easy-going apprentice, but she was harsher then she needed to be .
Tigerstar 1, Brokenstar, graystripe, Jayfeather(ouch, that’s painful to say), Twigbranch, Ashfur, Needletail( She totally was a mentor to Violetpaw, even though never officially appointed), Sandynose( he was needless hard on Twigpaw being indecisive about where her heart and loyalties lied)
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 2, 2021 2:20:24 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of people say Graystripe, but lmfao there are way worse in this series. Graystripe wasn't a good mentor by any means, but he's definitely nowhere near on par with horrible mentors like Ashfur, Tigerstar and Thistleclaw. But I would put him, Jayfeather, and Twigbranch in the same level of annoyance.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Dec 2, 2021 9:58:34 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of people say Graystripe, but lmfao there are way worse in this series. Graystripe wasn't a good mentor by any means, but he's definitely nowhere near on par with horrible mentors like Ashfur, Tigerstar and Thistleclaw. But I would put him, Jayfeather, and Twigbranch in the same level of annoyance. Suppose it depends on ones own perspective and definition of what makes a bad mentor. Personally I really like Graystripe, but given the fact that he was mostly absent for majority of Brackenpaw’s training, makes him a pretty lousy mentor, and iirc he never had another apprentice afterwards to redeem his record sadly. I haven’t reread Bluestar’s prophecy in about 5-6 years , so barely remember what Thistleclaw was like.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 2, 2021 15:10:56 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of people say Graystripe, but lmfao there are way worse in this series. Graystripe wasn't a good mentor by any means, but he's definitely nowhere near on par with horrible mentors like Ashfur, Tigerstar and Thistleclaw. But I would put him, Jayfeather, and Twigbranch in the same level of annoyance. Suppose it depends on ones own perspective and definition of what makes a bad mentor. Personally I really like Graystripe, but given the fact that he was mostly absent for majority of Brackenpaw’s training, makes him a pretty lousy mentor, and iirc he never had another apprentice afterwards to redeem his record sadly. I haven’t reread Bluestar’s prophecy in about 5-6 years , so barely remember what Thistleclaw was like. Like I said, yeah he's a lousy mentor, but I don't think he's the worst tbh. I put him on the same level of lousy as Twig and Jayfeather. Graystripe was barely a mentor, while Jayfeather was too harsh, and Twig was only thinking about her own success. On the other hand you have Thistleclaw who was a horrible influence on his apprentice and encourage them to almost kill a kit. Tigerstar who intentionally tried to get his apprentice killed by snakes, and spread rumors about him being a traitor. And Ashfur who used his training sessions as an excuse to shred the son of the girl that rejected him, and later tried to burn him alive. If it were me personally picking, I think Ashfur is the worst, since he's shown several times abusing Lionblaze and encouraging him to be violent, before straight up just openly trying to kill him.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Dec 2, 2021 15:30:39 GMT -5
Suppose it depends on ones own perspective and definition of what makes a bad mentor. Personally I really like Graystripe, but given the fact that he was mostly absent for majority of Brackenpaw’s training, makes him a pretty lousy mentor, and iirc he never had another apprentice afterwards to redeem his record sadly. I haven’t reread Bluestar’s prophecy in about 5-6 years , so barely remember what Thistleclaw was like. Like I said, yeah he's a lousy mentor, but I don't think he's the worst tbh. I put him on the same level of lousy as Twig and Jayfeather. Graystripe was barely a mentor, while Jayfeather was too harsh, and Twig was only thinking about her own success. On the other hand you have Thistleclaw who was a horrible influence on his apprentice and encourage them to almost kill a kit. Tigerstar who intentionally tried to get his apprentice killed by snakes, and spread rumors about him being a traitor. And Ashfur who used his training sessions as an excuse to shred the son of the girl that rejected him, and later tried to burn him alive. If it were me personally picking, I think Ashfur is the worst, since he's shown several times abusing Lionblaze and encouraging him to be violent, before straight up just openly trying to kill him. yeah I fully agree. Besides Thistleclaw, Ashfur, Tigerclaw, Brokenstar, there’s not really any others I’d conclusively consider Awful, Horrible mentors. Beyond them it’s just more like they did a rather mediocre job, or just incredibly impatient with their apprentices and just overall didn’t form the greatest bond, or have the most positive influence on there apprentices, not horrible, just not very good. There maybe other horrible mentors I’m forgetting since it’s been awhile since it’s been a number of years since I’ve read quite a good portion of the books, and with playing catch-up with the latest books over the past 4 months, haven’t had much chance to reread the older ones. Though I’m finally rereading PoT and OoTS(just finished The Sight, yay) so maybe my opinions will change on some of these characters.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Dec 2, 2021 18:36:22 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of people say Graystripe, but lmfao there are way worse in this series. Graystripe wasn't a good mentor by any means, but he's definitely nowhere near on par with horrible mentors like Ashfur, Tigerstar and Thistleclaw. But I would put him, Jayfeather, and Twigbranch in the same level of annoyance. I agree that Graystripe isn't as bad as mentors like Tigerstar, Brokenstar, Ashfur, etc. But when I made my pick, I was trying to avoid naming obvious villains, personally. Were they worse mentors? Absolutely. But idk, I was looking for a mentor that was genuinely bad at being a mentor itself, and not just bad in general. That was my own perspective for picking Graystripe, at least.
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