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Post by Rainfire on Nov 19, 2021 19:51:27 GMT -5
How do you feel about Bramblestar and Squirrelflight both living through ALitM? It definitely seemed like many people were hoping one or both of them would kick the bucket in this book.
While I like Bramblestar and don't think he's a horrible leader, I was still hoping we would be done with him by now because I just already want ThunderClan to have a new leader. But beyond that, I don't mind that they lived. I do really hope Bramble and Squirrel get to take a backseat in the next arc, though.
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Post by tallshadowstar on Nov 19, 2021 20:01:43 GMT -5
I really wanted Bramblestar to bite the dust and am upset that he didn't. Bristlefrost's sacrifice is growing on me, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish that it was him instead. He needs to die or retire ASAP.
I'm glad Squirrelflight lived, though. I was hoping for Squirrelstar, but at least she's alive. I still hope she becomes leader, but at this point I'd be happy with her retiring and living out her golden years in peace and comfort.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 19, 2021 20:04:15 GMT -5
they both should have died...the arc was focused on them, and they're old characters. this was THE arc that would have given them a perfect, meaningful, and big send off...but now that boat has sailed, so what now? do they now go to mistystar levels of overstaying their welcome and live forever? lol no one wants that. absolutely no one. i dont even like bramble x squirrel, and i think both of them are jerk characters now, but still, even *i* could think of a perfect send off for both of them within TBC:
here's what i would have done for them:
bramblestar gets his body back and helps squirrelflight take down ashfur, but bramblestar sacrifices himself and dies for good, willing to give up returning to his body again just so he can save squirrelflight and everyone else. seeing this, squirrelflight deals the final blow to ashfur with bristlefrost, and squirrelflight returns the favor by sacrificing herself for bristlefrost. thus, both bramble and squirrel die for the sake of others, redeeming both of their jerk behaviors in SqH. squirrel and bramble meet in starclan, but before they can enjoy their reunion, bristle, shadow, and root solve the starclan problem and this allows starclan to be freed and finally go to the overworld again. there, the spirits of bramble and squirrel say their last words to the living cats they care about, then we see the vision from sunset come true: they walk up a path of stars, their tails intertwined, their paw steps in synch. the end.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2021 20:15:27 GMT -5
they both should have died...the arc was focused on them, and they're old characters. this was THE arc that would have given them a perfect, meaningful, and big send off...but now that boat has sailed, so what now? do they now go to mistystar levels of overstaying their welcome and live forever? lol no one wants that. absolutely no one. i dont even like bramble x squirrel, and i think both of them are jerk characters now, but still, even *i* could think of a perfect send off for both of them within TBC:
here's what i would have done for them:
bramblestar gets his body back and helps squirrelflight take down ashfur, but bramblestar sacrifices himself and dies for good, willing to give up returning to his body again just so he can save squirrelflight and everyone else. seeing this, squirrelflight deals the final blow to ashfur with bristlefrost, and squirrelflight returns the favor by sacrificing herself for bristlefrost. thus, both bramble and squirrel die for the sake of others, redeeming both of their jerk behaviors in SqH. squirrel and bramble meet in starclan, but before they can enjoy their reunion, bristle, shadow, and root solve the starclan problem and this allows starclan to be freed and finally go to the overworld again. there, the spirits of bramble and squirrel say their last words to the living cats they care about, then we see the vision from sunset come true: they walk up a path of stars, their tails intertwined, their paw steps in synch. the end. I think they should get ghost divorced
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Post by Cloudstorm on Nov 19, 2021 20:56:27 GMT -5
they both should have died...the arc was focused on them, and they're old characters. this was THE arc that would have given them a perfect, meaningful, and big send off...but now that boat has sailed, so what now? do they now go to mistystar levels of overstaying their welcome and live forever? lol no one wants that. absolutely no one. i dont even like bramble x squirrel, and i think both of them are jerk characters now, but still, even *i* could think of a perfect send off for both of them within TBC:
here's what i would have done for them:
bramblestar gets his body back and helps squirrelflight take down ashfur, but bramblestar sacrifices himself and dies for good, willing to give up returning to his body again just so he can save squirrelflight and everyone else. seeing this, squirrelflight deals the final blow to ashfur with bristlefrost, and squirrelflight returns the favor by sacrificing herself for bristlefrost. thus, both bramble and squirrel die for the sake of others, redeeming both of their jerk behaviors in SqH. squirrel and bramble meet in starclan, but before they can enjoy their reunion, bristle, shadow, and root solve the starclan problem and this allows starclan to be freed and finally go to the overworld again. there, the spirits of bramble and squirrel say their last words to the living cats they care about, then we see the vision from sunset come true: they walk up a path of stars, their tails intertwined, their paw steps in synch. the end. I mean, I know quite a few people that wouldn’t want Bramblestar and Squirrelflight to go, myself included, as long as we don’t have a repeat of SqH’s malarkey then I’d prefer they stay around, but be out of the spotlight and not dragged through the mud for drama, let them have some peace and quiet for a change .
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Post by epicstyle on Nov 19, 2021 22:32:08 GMT -5
I'm not too bothered by it, I kinda came to terms with the fact that both of them would survive the arc after TPONS came out. The only thing that bothers me is that Bramblestar is on the cover of the final book yet he is only in like 10 pages max lol. I think that Bristlefrost should have been on the cover for ALITM instead.
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Post by vectoring34 on Nov 20, 2021 9:45:25 GMT -5
Do I want them to die? Yes. Does that also mean they're the wrong choice to die? Also yes. Let's be real, no one here would give less of a crap if either of them died. It's precisely because of that that having them die as a big climactic moment would feel really lame and forced compared to a real sacrifice that actually has emotional resonance with the readers. Besides, I think the whole moment with Ashfur not even getting dignified with Squirrelflight's presence is actually really good and sacrificing that would kind of suck.
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Post by halogen on Nov 20, 2021 10:02:14 GMT -5
Do I want them to die? Yes. Does that also mean they're the wrong choice to die? Also yes. Let's be real, no one here would give less of a crap if either of them died. It's precisely because of that that having them die as a big climactic moment would feel really lame and forced compared to a real sacrifice that actually has emotional resonance with the readers. Besides, I think the whole moment with Ashfur not even getting dignified with Squirrelflight's presence is actually really good and sacrificing that would kind of suck. Agree, though I don't see why not both? I think that they should have just failed to get Bramblestar to return to his body but Bristlefrost still dies, and Squirrelflight retires. That way we get the meaningful sacrifice AND the payoff on the whole leadership shake-up/Bramblestar being dead plotline.
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Post by vectoring34 on Nov 20, 2021 10:09:53 GMT -5
Do I want them to die? Yes. Does that also mean they're the wrong choice to die? Also yes. Let's be real, no one here would give less of a crap if either of them died. It's precisely because of that that having them die as a big climactic moment would feel really lame and forced compared to a real sacrifice that actually has emotional resonance with the readers. Besides, I think the whole moment with Ashfur not even getting dignified with Squirrelflight's presence is actually really good and sacrificing that would kind of suck. Agree, though I don't see why not both? I think that they should have just failed to get Bramblestar to return to his body but Bristlefrost still dies, and Squirrelflight retires. That way we get the meaningful sacrifice AND the payoff on the whole leadership shake-up/Bramblestar being dead plotline. I would be fine with that, but it would require happening earlier than the final book. Perhaps have Bramblestar die in PONS or something like that.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Nov 20, 2021 12:52:58 GMT -5
I adore Bramblestar and Squirrelflight (as individual characters not as a couple) but still wanted them to die and ascend to StarClan at the end of TBC just so their dysfunctional relationship is no longer in focus of the main series books. I'm still convinced that if they die it will be together due to that old vision Leafpool got in TNP about them walking alongside each other to the stars. They are probably going to stay mates forever from now on though and that sucks. These two should have never become romantically involved with each other (a brother/sister dynamic would have suited them much better). Sorry about the small rant but my anger just got the best of me for a moment.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Nov 20, 2021 18:27:24 GMT -5
I wished that both of them had kicked the bucket because I think that they've been around for too long. I guess I'll just have to accept the fact that they're still alive. /shrug
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