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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 19, 2021 10:48:42 GMT -5
What happened to Mistystar and Blackclaw's kits, Perchpaw and Pikepaw?
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Nov 19, 2021 10:49:54 GMT -5
It’s actually Perchkit, Primrosepaw and Pikepaw!
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 19, 2021 10:58:32 GMT -5
It’s actually Perchkit, Primrosepaw and Pikepaw! Thanks for correcting me. I always mix them up!
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Nov 19, 2021 11:03:16 GMT -5
It’s actually Perchkit, Primrosepaw and Pikepaw! Thanksfor correcting me. I always mix them up! No problem!
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 19, 2021 15:08:11 GMT -5
there's a headcanon from su that says perchkit drowned trying to fish on his own. perch's death could be anything from poisoned/belly ache to drowning. i like su's headcanon because it's tragic.
primrosepaw's headcanon from su is that she died from greencough.
and pikepaw's headcanon from su is that he died from eating poisoned prey.
there's no canon explanation for their deaths, so it's free game.
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 19, 2021 15:14:16 GMT -5
there's a headcanon from su that says perchkit drowned trying to fish on his own. perch's death could be anything from poisoned/belly ache to drowning. i like su's headcanon because it's tragic. primrosepaw's headcanon from su is that she died from greencough. and pikepaw's headcanon from su is that he died from eating poisoned prey. there's no canon explanation for their deaths, so it's free game. Sooo, you know that by the time they're apprentices, the cats are sexually mature?
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Nov 19, 2021 15:17:48 GMT -5
I liked the idea that Primrosepaw and Pikepaw were killed during the TigerClan-era for having half-clan blood.
Not sure if Leopardstar’s SE changes this or anything. I haven’t read it yet.
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Post by *Faith* on Nov 19, 2021 15:24:36 GMT -5
I headcanon that Primrosepaw and Pikepaw died in the BC battle. We know that RC lost cats in this fight and LH pretty much confirmed they fought in it.
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 19, 2021 15:46:39 GMT -5
I headcanon that Primrosepaw and Pikepaw died in the BC battle. We know that RC lost cats in this fight and LH pretty much confirmed they fought in it. Yeah, actually, that makes a lot of sense.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Nov 19, 2021 18:42:12 GMT -5
there's a headcanon from su that says perchkit drowned trying to fish on his own. perch's death could be anything from poisoned/belly ache to drowning. i like su's headcanon because it's tragic. primrosepaw's headcanon from su is that she died from greencough. and pikepaw's headcanon from su is that he died from eating poisoned prey. there's no canon explanation for their deaths, so it's free game. Sooo, you know that by the time they're apprentices, the cats are sexually mature? What does that have to do with anything though?
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 19, 2021 18:49:06 GMT -5
Sooo, you know that by the time they're apprentices, the cats are sexually mature? What does that have to do with anything though? They could technically have kits... #RiverClanNeedsDads ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Nov 19, 2021 18:55:41 GMT -5
What does that have to do with anything though? They could technically have kits... #RiverClanNeedsDads ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ Why would you want apprentices to have kits though? Being sexually mature doesn't mean they're mentally mature.
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 19, 2021 23:14:23 GMT -5
Why would you want apprentices to have kits though? Being sexually mature doesn't mean they're mentally mature. just something i saw somewhere else, a hc that apprentices did have kits. forget it tho
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 20, 2021 17:03:20 GMT -5
Putting the "discussion" of apprentices having kits in this series aside *shudders*, it seems like every MistyBlack kit besides Reedwhisker (so Perchkit, Pikepaw and Primrosepaw) died either during TPB or in between the time of TNP. Also, ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ , as far as I'm aware there has only been one instance in the canon series where an apprentice seems to have fathered kits which was Scorchpaw (later Scorchfur) with the much older Snowbird in PoT although this was likely a mistake on the part of editors/writers and not done on purpose. While it is true that cats in real life reach a certain level of maturity at 6 months of age, just with humans becoming teenagers it doesn't mean that they should have kits because of it. And in this fantasy series about fictional cats living in cults and having organized religion, apprentices are more like teenagers, not fully grown up yet. Even at 12 months, real life cats are not considered adults as they actually only reach this stage at 18 months. So the way in which this series portrays apprentices is quite realistic in such a regard.
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 20, 2021 17:08:47 GMT -5
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑, that's true. You make a very good point about apprentices being teenagers. Reading back, I don't really know what I was talking about. Yesterday was a very... wierd day.
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Post by rabbit on Nov 20, 2021 17:15:11 GMT -5
𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑, that's true. You make a very good point about apprentices being teenagers. Reading back, I don't really know what I was talking about. Yesterday was a very... wierd day. I always thought it was strange to apply human age groups to cats? There are adult cats and juvenile cats (kits). Apprentices could easily be seen as young adults rather than teens. The series is never clear about it so getting definitive about it is kind of just saying words.
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 20, 2021 17:16:39 GMT -5
rabbitTrue. I've always found it very difficult to create a timeline that actually makes sense because of that.
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Post by lionblazex on Nov 20, 2021 17:17:23 GMT -5
Putting the "discussion" of apprentices having kits in this series aside *shudders*, it seems like every MistyBlack kit besides Reedwhisker (so Perchkit, Pikepaw and Primrosepaw) died either during TPB or in between the time of TNP. Also, ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ , as far as I'm aware there has only been one instance in the canon series where an apprentice seems to have fathered kits which was Scorchpaw (later Scorchfur) with the much older Snowbird in PoT although this was likely a mistake on the part of editors/writers and not done on purpose. While it is true that cats in real life reach a certain level of maturity at 6 months of age, just with humans becoming teenagers it doesn't mean that they should have kits because of it. And in this fantasy series about fictional cats living in cults and having organized religion, apprentices are more like teenagers, not fully grown up yet. Even at 12 months, real life cats are not considered adults as they actually only reach this stage at 18 months. So the way in which this series portrays apprentices is quite realistic in such a regard. Wait was it really implied Scorchfur got Snowbird pregnant as an apprentice?
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 20, 2021 17:33:22 GMT -5
Putting the "discussion" of apprentices having kits in this series aside *shudders*, it seems like every MistyBlack kit besides Reedwhisker (so Perchkit, Pikepaw and Primrosepaw) died either during TPB or in between the time of TNP. Also, ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ , as far as I'm aware there has only been one instance in the canon series where an apprentice seems to have fathered kits which was Scorchpaw (later Scorchfur) with the much older Snowbird in PoT although this was likely a mistake on the part of editors/writers and not done on purpose. While it is true that cats in real life reach a certain level of maturity at 6 months of age, just with humans becoming teenagers it doesn't mean that they should have kits because of it. And in this fantasy series about fictional cats living in cults and having organized religion, apprentices are more like teenagers, not fully grown up yet. Even at 12 months, real life cats are not considered adults as they actually only reach this stage at 18 months. So the way in which this series portrays apprentices is quite realistic in such a regard. Wait was it really implied Scorchfur got Snowbird pregnant as an apprentice? Not directly in the books but seeing as Scorchfur is listed as being the father of all their kits and Snowbird is shown pregnant while he is an apprentice during PoT makes things quite obvious.
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 20, 2021 17:34:49 GMT -5
Wait was it really implied Scorchfur got Snowbird pregnant as an apprentice? Not directly in the books but seeing as Scorchfur is listed as being the father of all their kits and Snowbird is shown pregnant while he is an apprentice during PoT makes things quite obvious. Why in StarClan would Snowbird have kits with an apprentice who's much younger than her?
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Post by lionblazex on Nov 20, 2021 17:41:36 GMT -5
Wait was it really implied Scorchfur got Snowbird pregnant as an apprentice? Not directly in the books but seeing as Scorchfur is listed as being the father of all their kits and Snowbird is shown pregnant while he is an apprentice during PoT makes things quite obvious. Non of their kits existing at all in the books before Avos( actually BrS but most have their first listed apprentice in Avos )is what got me confused. I had assumed theirt first litter was born during the Oots and Avos timeskip because of that. I had forgot Snowbird was pregnant with unknown kits since Outcast.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 20, 2021 17:46:08 GMT -5
Not directly in the books but seeing as Scorchfur is listed as being the father of all their kits and Snowbird is shown pregnant while he is an apprentice during PoT makes things quite obvious. Why in StarClan would Snowbird have kits with an apprentice who's much younger than her? It was probably just a mistake on the writers/editors part. They also get confused about certain ages, timelines and continuity a lot.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 20, 2021 17:48:22 GMT -5
Not directly in the books but seeing as Scorchfur is listed as being the father of all their kits and Snowbird is shown pregnant while he is an apprentice during PoT makes things quite obvious. Berryheart,Cloverfoot and Beenose literary not existing at all before Avos is what got me confused. I had assumed they were born during the Oots and Avos timeskip because of that. I had forgot Snowbird was pregnant with unknown kits since Outcast. berry, clover, and bee were probably born in the big gap between Bramblestar's Storm and AVOS. one of the erins said scorchfur was the father to ALL of snowbird's kits, but snowbird has been a queen for a long time, even when scorch was an apprentice, but we dont know what kits snowbird had before berry, clove, and bee. scorch is a warrior by OotS (he first shows up in eclipse. the book where all the clans got a bunch of random cats out of nowhere to fill up the count for the big battle). snowbird is first a queen in outcast, one book before scorchpaw appears in eclipse.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 20, 2021 17:52:01 GMT -5
Not directly in the books but seeing as Scorchfur is listed as being the father of all their kits and Snowbird is shown pregnant while he is an apprentice during PoT makes things quite obvious. Berryheart,Cloverfoot and Beenose literary not existing at all before Avos is what got me confused. I had assumed they were born during the Oots and Avos timeskip because of that. I had forgot Snowbird was pregnant with unknown kits since Outcast. Seeing as SnowScorch have nine kits together there was either a litter before them which died or the ages of some other siblings do not add up. I think it could have been the former which makes this whole thing even worse. I first thought Bluebellkit was among that first litter but she is said to have only been born in Bramblestar's Storm so after OotS.
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Post by lionblazex on Nov 20, 2021 17:53:08 GMT -5
Berryheart,Cloverfoot and Beenose literary not existing at all before Avos is what got me confused. I had assumed they were born during the Oots and Avos timeskip because of that. I had forgot Snowbird was pregnant with unknown kits since Outcast. berry, clover, and bee were probably born in the big gap between Bramblestar's Storm and AVOS. one of the erins said scorchfur was the father to ALL of snowbird's kits, but snowbird has been a queen for a long time, even when scorch was an apprentice, but we dont know what kits snowbird had before berry, clove, and bee. scorch is a warrior by OotS (he first shows up in eclipse. the book where all the clans got a bunch of random cats out of nowhere to fill up the count for the big battle). snowbird is first a queen in outcast, one book before scorchpaw appears in eclipse. I think this a case of the Erins just forgetting the unknown Snowbird kits of PoT( like I did) when they said he fathered them all.
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Post by lionblazex on Nov 20, 2021 18:14:34 GMT -5
Berryheart,Cloverfoot and Beenose literary not existing at all before Avos is what got me confused. I had assumed they were born during the Oots and Avos timeskip because of that. I had forgot Snowbird was pregnant with unknown kits since Outcast. Seeing as SnowScorch have nine kits together there was either a litter before them which died or the ages of some other siblings do not add up. I think it could have been the former which makes this whole thing even worse. I first thought Bluebellkit was among that first litter but she is said to have only been born in Bramblestar's Storm so after OotS. I think it's just that Snowbird's litter from Pot has been completely forgotten about as existing by the Erins when they said he fathered them all and are not counted in the nine. They actually would have more then nine kits if we count this unknown Pot litter( as they already have a kit count of 9 all seemly born around Brs or after)unless Berryheart,Cloverfoot and Rippletail are supposed to much older then we think. I listed Beenose as a litter mate to Cloverfoot and Berryheart earlier but that was wrong . Rippletail and or Bluebellkit have to be littermates with Berryheart and Cloverfoot because Beenose and Yarrowleaf are confirmed second litter due to age and Frondwhisker, Gullswoop and Conefoot are the third from SS. It's a mess.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 20, 2021 18:36:17 GMT -5
Seeing as SnowScorch have nine kits together there was either a litter before them which died or the ages of some other siblings do not add up. I think it could have been the former which makes this whole thing even worse. I first thought Bluebellkit was among that first litter but she is said to have only been born in Bramblestar's Storm so after OotS. I think it's just that Snowbird's litter from Pot has been completely forgotten about as existing by the Erins when they said he fathered them all and are not counted in the nine. They actually would have more then nine kits if we count this unknown Pot litter( as they already have a kit count of 9 all seemly born around Brs or after)unless Berryheart,Cloverfoot and Rippletail are supposed to much older then we think. I listed Beenose as a litter mate to Cloverfoot and Berryheart earlier but that was wrong . Rippletail and or Bluebellkit have to be littermates with Berryheart and Cloverfoot because Beenose and Yarrowleaf are confirmed second litter due to age and Frondwhisker, Gullswoop and Conefoot are the third from SS. It's a mess. oh yeah i didnt catch that either lol. i forgot that the first litter is actually clover, berry and ripple (second is yarrow, bee, and bluebell, third is frond, gull, and cone)
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 22, 2021 11:34:51 GMT -5
I think it's just that Snowbird's litter from Pot has been completely forgotten about as existing by the Erins when they said he fathered them all and are not counted in the nine. They actually would have more then nine kits if we count this unknown Pot litter( as they already have a kit count of 9 all seemly born around Brs or after)unless Berryheart,Cloverfoot and Rippletail are supposed to much older then we think. I listed Beenose as a litter mate to Cloverfoot and Berryheart earlier but that was wrong . Rippletail and or Bluebellkit have to be littermates with Berryheart and Cloverfoot because Beenose and Yarrowleaf are confirmed second litter due to age and Frondwhisker, Gullswoop and Conefoot are the third from SS. It's a mess. oh yeah i didnt catch that either lol. i forgot that the first litter is actually clover, berry and ripple (second is yarrow, bee, and bluebell, third is frond, gull, and cone) Yeah, I thought Bee was younger than Clover and Berry. Who are Grassheart's parents?
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Post by lionblazex on Nov 22, 2021 13:30:45 GMT -5
oh yeah i didnt catch that either lol. i forgot that the first litter is actually clover, berry and ripple (second is yarrow, bee, and bluebell, third is frond, gull, and cone) Yeah, I thought Bee was younger than Clover and Berry. Who are Grassheart's parents? Its not confirmed who Grassheart's parents are but Grassheart is an apprentice in Brs so was born during late Oots or after.
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Post by ˈʔɛɱb̪ɻ̩f̞ʊt̠̚ on Nov 22, 2021 15:14:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought Bee was younger than Clover and Berry. Who are Grassheart's parents? Its not confirmed who Grassheart's parents are but Grassheart is an apprentice in Brs so was born during late Oots or after. Grasspaw and Spikepaw, right? they look like each other too? brown tabby i think
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