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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 2:35:39 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on this TC leader turned housecat and his novella? I reread his book just now, I liked it and I think he is interesting and sympathetic throughout most of it. But hot DAMN is LeopardPine a garbage ship like wow it's worse than I remembered.
First off, he's older than both of her parents and was apprentices alongside her grandma. Jake teases him implying that he's liked her from her apprenticeship. And then when they are actually together he doesn't really think of her. Honestly look me in my virtual eye and tell me he didn't care about Shanty 5x more. No love, no chemistry. There's this scene where Leopard says in a flat tone that she waited all night or day for him to come see her in the nursery. Then she starts crying, straight up wailing over the dying kits and Pine is basically like "Uh be quiet" "I hate that for you" before she tells him to get out. And of course in the end he leaves her with the sick kits without saying much of substance. It's like he doesn't connect with her at all on even the most surface level, I don't know if this was the result of the squished together chapters or actually intentional.
I'm speaking like I hate Pinestar, I don't lol I do feel for him. It's just hard to not think of Leopardfoot (who deserves a book btw) since Tigerkit is so important. Easily one of the worst pairings in the entire series.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Nov 8, 2021 2:41:21 GMT -5
i feel like it was intentional. i dont think anyone was supposed to like leopard x pine.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Nov 8, 2021 5:11:32 GMT -5
I like Pinestar, but I heavily dislike PineLeopard.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Nov 8, 2021 18:12:25 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on this TC leader turned housecat and his novella? I reread his book just now, I liked it and I think he is interesting and sympathetic throughout most of it. But hot DAMN is LeopardPine a garbage ship like wow it's worse than I remembered. Jake teases him implying that he's liked her from her apprenticeship.
I'm speaking like I hate Pinestar, I don't lol I do feel for him. It's just hard to not think of Leopardfoot (who deserves a book btw) since Tigerkit is so important. Easily one of the worst pairings in the entire series. I really hope that's not the case because then ewwwwwwww. It's also really gross how he didn't think of his dead kits or Leopardfoot at all... like geez man those were your children. That ship just should have never happened.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Nov 8, 2021 19:45:55 GMT -5
I don't hate Pinestar, but I don't love him either. I definitely hate the PinexLeopard ship though. Like, we all give the SpottedxThistle thing a lot of crap (well deserved crap, of course), but this one is so much worse. Pinestar was significantly older than Leopardfoot, and had been interested in her since she was an apprentice (if he had been a young warrior at the time that would've been one thing, but he was a leader on like his 7th or 8th life, so it's gross). Like, my god is this ship so gross and while it's definitely not romanticized, there's also nothing strong in any of the books to show the younger audience that it's wrong for an older adult to show interest in a literal child.
It also becomes obvious that Pinestar's interest in Leopardfoot wasn't even romantic, it was pure lust. He mated with her, but showed no interest in her after the fact, while she was expecting his kits, or after she gave birth. He also showed no interest in his kits. The whole thing is just gross.
Pinestar himself is fine, but his relationship with Leopardfoot is gross and makes me not like him that much.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 8, 2021 20:14:10 GMT -5
I want to sympathize with him, yet I don't. LeopardPine is horrible.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Nov 8, 2021 22:16:11 GMT -5
LeopardPine is awful
But I sympathize with Pinestar as a cat. Imagine having the misfortunate of being the child of Oakstar...and then having Starclan tell you to kill your child.
I'd peace out too
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 22:34:22 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on this TC leader turned housecat and his novella? I reread his book just now, I liked it and I think he is interesting and sympathetic throughout most of it. But hot DAMN is LeopardPine a garbage ship like wow it's worse than I remembered. Jake teases him implying that he's liked her from her apprenticeship.
I'm speaking like I hate Pinestar, I don't lol I do feel for him. It's just hard to not think of Leopardfoot (who deserves a book btw) since Tigerkit is so important. Easily one of the worst pairings in the entire series. I really hope that's not the case because then ewwwwwwww. It's also really gross how he didn't think of his dead kits or Leopardfoot at all... like geez man those were your children. That ship just should have never happened. Implying that he's talked about her often and in a way that warrants Jake picking up on it and teasing him. Smallear does the same in the next chapter or so as well
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Post by thewinterblaze on Nov 8, 2021 22:52:02 GMT -5
IMO, Pinestar's a decent cat, but PineLeopard is atrocious, easily one of the worst ships in the series. The age difference is just too much, even for Warriors, and the fact that he just leaves her? Nah.
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Taking a break from the forums because my cat died. Will probably be back mid to late October.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 9, 2021 12:27:09 GMT -5
I like Pinestar and Leopardfoot as individual characters. But as a pairing? Hell no!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2021 17:18:06 GMT -5
bump
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uh.. I really like sorreltail
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Post by 𝔖𝔬𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔩 on Nov 10, 2021 17:48:10 GMT -5
I’m indifferent to Pinestar as a character, I’d like to see a novella on Leopardfoot and her feelings on a grown tigerkit, but leopardpine is just…. so uncomfortable and the age gap just makes it 100% worse
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 20:56:39 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by cable on Nov 17, 2021 22:21:42 GMT -5
ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ has the most generous interpretation of this relationship, but given jakes playful teasing im not super sure it was meant to be hated? this is more a caseof “i sure hope it was meant to be hated” but honestly when it comes to this series i usually expect the worst
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Post by Spooky Alice on Nov 17, 2021 22:58:18 GMT -5
I like Pinestar and the idea of the situation but I feel LeopardPine in particular is just part of the greater issue of this series writing, ah, healthy relationships
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Post by Mothdapple on Nov 18, 2021 7:58:42 GMT -5
Pinestar is one of my favorite characters. He is very interesting and realistic. I loved his novella. I defend him religiously all the time. HOWEVER, I despise LeopardPine.
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Post by crowspirit on Nov 18, 2021 11:17:57 GMT -5
I really like Pinestar, he's actually one of my favourite characters and I enjoyed his Novella. If I were a clan cat, I'd probably leave as well because I couldn't live with constantly fighting and seeing my friends and family die. I'm too soft for this I guess, I suppose you could call me a strict pacifist, I just don't understand why people have to fight so much. So I can relate to Pinestar a lot. His relationship with Leopardfoot however makes me super uncomfortable, it really seems like they randomly selected one of the she - cats who didn't have a mate yet and Pinestar didn't care about her at all.
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