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Post by Aqua on Oct 30, 2021 14:03:09 GMT -5
Do you think she's a good guide for Firestar's family and other cats?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 14:37:18 GMT -5
Lol nope. She did Leaf and Jay so dirty it was gross. And I can't even remember her 'helping' other cats because she was so obsessed with Firestar and his kin. Like if Leafpaw didn't happen to be the one saving Reedwhisker I bet she wouldn't have popped up and he would've just been another cat in StarClan
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Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Oct 30, 2021 14:57:21 GMT -5
Nope , she’s a horrible Guide . Stalking Fireheart in his dreams , openly wishing I’ll-will on his mate , and spinning Leafpool around in circles about her indecision to leave with Crowfeather , and jay paw detecting all the Lust that she emanates for firestar , and him shivering in disgust back in PoT ( forget if the scene is in The sight or dark river , need to reread PoT) still gives me goosebumps , and makes me clench my fist with rage . While I know most people dislike Spottedleafs Heart , think we can agree that it adds some backdrop/context to why Spottedleaf is such a Obsessive, creepy , gross stalker in the first place , and that SH isn’t out of character for her imo, aside from them making her want to be a warrior , don’t know what the hell they thought they were doing with that one
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𝔖𝔬𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔩
uh.. I really like sorreltail
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Post by 𝔖𝔬𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔩 on Oct 30, 2021 15:04:52 GMT -5
Nope , she’s a horrible Guide . Stalking Fireheart in his dreams , openly wishing I’ll-will on his mate , and spinning Leafpool around in circles about her indecision to leave with Crowfeather , and jay paw detecting all the Lust that she emanates for firestar , and him shivering in disgust back in PoT ( forget if the scene is in The sight or dark river , need to reread PoT) still gives me goosebumps , and makes me clench my fist with rage . While I know most people dislike Spottedleafs Heart , think we can agree that it adds some backdrop/context to why Spottedleaf is such a Obsessive, creepy , gross stalker in the first place , and that SH isn’t out of character for her imo, aside from them making her want to be a warrior , don’t know what the hell they thought they were doing with that one Her love for Firestar is so out of nowhere too, as in into the wild, we don’t get any implications of romance between the two (only her fur and herself being called pretty and I think beautiful) I thought it was just a one-sided crush from firepaw…. nope
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Cloudstorm
Don’t let it kill you. Even when it hurts like hell.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Oct 30, 2021 15:09:59 GMT -5
Nope , she’s a horrible Guide . Stalking Fireheart in his dreams , openly wishing I’ll-will on his mate , and spinning Leafpool around in circles about her indecision to leave with Crowfeather , and jay paw detecting all the Lust that she emanates for firestar , and him shivering in disgust back in PoT ( forget if the scene is in The sight or dark river , need to reread PoT) still gives me goosebumps , and makes me clench my fist with rage . While I know most people dislike Spottedleafs Heart , think we can agree that it adds some backdrop/context to why Spottedleaf is such a Obsessive, creepy , gross stalker in the first place , and that SH isn’t out of character for her imo, aside from them making her want to be a warrior , don’t know what the hell they thought they were doing with that one Her love for Firestar is so out of nowhere too, as in into the wild, we don’t get any implications of romance between the two (only her fur and herself being called pretty and I think beautiful) I thought it was just a one-sided crush from firepaw…. nope don’t know if I’d label it as love from Spottedleafs End , more like just an Obsessive , Lustful Creep , that sought to Possess him like an object , more comparable to Ashfurs obsession over Squirrelflight , of course without the Seeking vengeance, and Causing Grief and heartbreak for everyone cause your such a pathetic loser you can’t accept rejection without losing your sanity (assuming he ever had it).
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𝔖𝔬𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔩
uh.. I really like sorreltail
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Post by 𝔖𝔬𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔩 on Oct 30, 2021 15:25:03 GMT -5
Her love for Firestar is so out of nowhere too, as in into the wild, we don’t get any implications of romance between the two (only her fur and herself being called pretty and I think beautiful) I thought it was just a one-sided crush from firepaw…. nope don’t know if I’d label it as love from Spottedleafs End , more like just an Obsessive , Lustful Creep , that sought to Possess him like an object , more comparable to Ashfurs obsession over Squirrelflight , of course without the Seeking vengeance, and Causing Grief and heartbreak for everyone cause your such a pathetic loser you can’t accept rejection without losing your sanity (assuming he ever had it). oh definitely, she does seem like a (slightly) more sane ashfur-type now that you mention him
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Post by tallshadowstar on Oct 30, 2021 16:33:45 GMT -5
No, she wasn't good at all. She was a terrible guide to Leafpool in particular - telling her to 'follow her heart' in one moment, then scolding her for doing so in the next.
Honestly, it's hard for me not to interpret her as a sinister figure, manipulating the cats that she 'guides' into doing the will of StarClan. And if that were the intention for her character, I'd really like her! The concept of a StarClan cat (and StarClan in general) meddling with the living for 'the greater good' is interesting. But I do think she was legitimately intended to be a morally good character, which is disappointing considering her behaviour.
I think she could have been a nice guide if she guided Firestar and his kin out of a sense of duty and protectiveness, as she was the one who interpreted the prophecy that allowed Firestar to join ThunderClan. She wouldn't want the Firekin to come to harm because they're so important for prophecies, but also would feel somewhat indebted to Firestar for saving the Clan like she foretold. Over time, she'd become somewhat of their patron saint, and ultimately dies (again) by shielding a blow meant for Sandstorm. Romantic feelings for Firestar had no reason to be a part of her character, and they actively made her worse in their inclusion.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 30, 2021 17:10:59 GMT -5
No, not at all. Spottedleaf was a terrible guide for Leafpool and so incredibly vague about what she said. I doubt Spottedleaf even genuinely cared about them and only helped them because they were Firestar's kin.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Oct 31, 2021 5:07:57 GMT -5
She was a horrible guide.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Oct 31, 2021 7:04:42 GMT -5
No. Give me Feathertail or Silverstream over her any day.
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