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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 12, 2021 6:48:59 GMT -5
When it comes to "evil doers" who also happen to be she cats in the Warriors series, there are some but not many especially in comparison to the amount of male ones in it. And something else that has become clear is that most of them are less obvious than villainous toms or even more often just temporary.
Villains: Mapleshade (revenge seeker) Raven (a member of the Kin) Flame (one of Darktail's rogues) Sleekwhisker (former sidekick who is now on the run) Sparrowfeather (a DF background character) Susan (vicious kittypet) Tess (a cat from Willie's group in Ravenpaw's GN) Fury (former BloodClan leader in Graystripe's SE) Flora (a member of Stripe's group from the mountains) Fog (a rogue leader from Tigerheart's SE) Misha (rogue from Dodge's group who took a life from Leafstar in the SkyClan SE) Bee (a rather unimportant member of Slash's group in the DotC arc) Swallow (another one of Slash's rogues)
Antagonists: Rainflower (horrible mother to Crookedstar) Lizardstripe (another horrible mother to her adoptive son Brokenstar) Foxheart (Yellowfang's rival) Ruby (horrible sister to Tiny/Scourge)
Redeemed: Bluestar (wasn't truly aware of her actions due to suffering from dementia) Leopardstar (in TPB) Hollyleaf (became an antagonist the end of PoT and got officially redeemed at the end of OotS) Needletail (realized her mistake in trusting Darktail and sacrificed herself) The Sisters (partly during SqH and Tree's novella but have redeemed themselves in TBC) Star Flower (was an antagonist in one DotC book and got redeemed a book afterwards) Willow Tail (in Moth Flight's SE and got redeemed after her death) Quick Water (in Shadowstar's novella and got redeemed at the end of it)
Feel free to tell me if I missed someone. I was ready to put Rushtooth on this list but upon looking on the wiki and reluctantly opening Spottedleaf's cursed novella, I'm now realizing that he is a tom even though I'm sure to have seen someone else claim otherwise, can't remember who though.
Also, in regards to the poll question, do share your ideas for future female villains on this thread. As for me, I'm still waiting for an evil female healer and currently wish for Frostpaw, from the upcoming new ASC arc, to perhaps fulfill that role.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Oct 12, 2021 7:27:58 GMT -5
I absolutely think there should be more female villains.
Also, I suppose Swallow (DoTC) could be considered a villain, the cat who worked alongside Slash. Or Raven, one of Darktail's slightly more important followers. Or Fog, the cat from Tigerheart's Shadow.
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Post by vectoring34 on Oct 12, 2021 12:12:13 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the rogues attacking the Tribe female too? As mentioned above, Raven counts as being like the...third, fourth most important of Darktail's original gang. Also, I'd argue that from Tree's perspective the Sisters were pretty bad to him too.
Anyway, yeah, another female villain would be nice because the ratio is heavily skewed towards toms. I think that a raiding, Viking-leader type or animal from another species would be neat to see.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 12, 2021 12:19:41 GMT -5
I absolutely think there should be more female villains. Also, I suppose Swallow (DoTC) could be considered a villain, the cat who worked alongside Slash. Or Raven, one of Darktail's slightly more important followers. Or Fog, the cat from Tigerheart's Shadow. I cannot believe that I completely forgot about Raven but remembered freaking Tess from Ravenpaw's Path. I'll be adding those three cats you named to the list if that's okay.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 12, 2021 12:23:18 GMT -5
I’m Honestly Surprised you didn’t Place Bluestar up there on the list . I’d totally Consider her a antagonist During her mental Breakdown up to her sacrificing herself to take out the pack of Dogs in a Dangerous Path Then I would place Bluestar in the Redeemed section. But when it comes to her mental instability (which was dementia) I'm not going to fault her for that as she wasn't fully in control of herself.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 12, 2021 12:28:16 GMT -5
Wasn't one of the rogues attacking the Tribe female too? As mentioned above, Raven counts as being like the...third, fourth most important of Darktail's original gang. Also, I'd argue that from Tree's perspective the Sisters were pretty bad to him too. Anyway, yeah, another female villain would be nice because the ratio is heavily skewed towards toms. I think that a raiding, Viking-leader type or animal from another species would be neat to see. You're right. I'll be adding Flora and also The Sisters as a whole group to different sections of this list.
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Post by Kookie on Oct 12, 2021 12:42:22 GMT -5
Honestly, I wish Star Flower stayed an evil character. She would've had so much potential. I also think that it would've been interesting to see Leopardstar stay antagonistic. She's not necessarily a good cat...I feel like she should've been rewritten better as a morally grey character.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Oct 12, 2021 16:14:42 GMT -5
I’m Honestly Surprised you didn’t Place Bluestar up there on the list . I’d totally Consider her a antagonist During her mental Breakdown up to her sacrificing herself to take out the pack of Dogs in a Dangerous Path Then I would place Bluestar in the Redeemed section. But when it comes to her mental instability (which was dementia) I'm not going to fault her for that as she wasn't fully in control of herself. woah woah , where is it ever confirmed she has Dementia ? From my recollection her Downward Spiral Mentally was Because of all the Stress from of Tigerclaw betraying her, Graystripe leaving which again more betrayal, Fireheart going behind her back(though he has great intentions , Feelings of Abandonment from Starclan , and just Overall Feeling helpless to Control the Situation/events unfolding around her etc . Not Dementia , unless Victorian Holmes made some Random Contradicting post years later that I never read ( and for good reason , She’s Changes things far to often , makes keeping anything Straight a chore ).
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 12, 2021 18:27:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind it.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 12, 2021 18:30:07 GMT -5
Then I would place Bluestar in the Redeemed section. But when it comes to her mental instability (which was dementia) I'm not going to fault her for that as she wasn't fully in control of herself. woah woah , where is it ever confirmed she has Dementia ? From my recollection her Downward Spiral Mentally was Because of all the Stress from of Tigerclaw betraying her, Graystripe leaving which again more betrayal, Fireheart going behind her back(though he has great intentions , Feelings of Abandonment from Starclan , and just Overall Feeling helpless to Control the Situation/events unfolding around her etc . Not Dementia , unless Victorian Holmes made some Random Contradicting post years later that I never read ( and for good reason , She’s Changes things far to often , makes keeping anything Straight a chore ). Vicky confirmed it years ago and this has never been contradicted. Bluestar having dementia—which can be caused by stress, and I should know, because that's how my own grandmother got it—is actually hinted at in the first arc. Graypool and Goosefeather had it, too.
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Post by Aqua on Oct 12, 2021 18:40:33 GMT -5
No, because I really don't care if the villain is a male or a female, it just has to be well written enough to entertain me. Genders really don't matter to me when it comes to villains. I just care about the quality, not the gender. Most of their villains have been okay.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 12, 2021 18:43:31 GMT -5
Yes, there should be. I always find it interesting and refreshing when a female villain is included because there are pretty few of them.
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Post by Dark Sun on Oct 13, 2021 6:37:03 GMT -5
No, because I really don't care if the villain is a male or a female, it just has to be well written enough to entertain me. Genders really don't matter to me when it comes to villains. I just care about the quality, not the gender. Most of their villains have been okay. Unfortunately this leads to situations where the ratio of male/female villains is typically one-sided. Should we be obsessed about it? Debatable. But I think we should definitely all care, at least to some level. Until a 50/50 (or at the very least, 60/40) ratio is produced, then there is some amount of inequality here. Is it problematic to the point where we should be raising torches and pitchforks about it? No, I don't believe so personally. Regardless, there's nothing wrong with wanting more female representation, and hoping for that doesn't by default mean that the writers needed to check some boxes therefore making the female characters poorly written. In summary: It's inequality at the worst, and a snowball effect where there now just happens to be more male antagonists at the most neutral. (I would also argue that there are far more male protagonists than female, from what I remember.)
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Post by vectoring34 on Oct 13, 2021 7:34:26 GMT -5
No, because I really don't care if the villain is a male or a female, it just has to be well written enough to entertain me. Genders really don't matter to me when it comes to villains. I just care about the quality, not the gender. Most of their villains have been okay. Unfortunately this leads to situations where the ratio of male/female villains is typically one-sided. Should we be obsessed about it? Debatable. But I think we should definitely all care, at least to some level. Until a 50/50 (or at the very least, 60/40) ratio is produced, then there is some amount of inequality here. Is it problematic to the point where we should be raising torches and pitchforks about it? No, I don't believe so personally. Regardless, there's nothing wrong with wanting more female representation, and hoping for that doesn't by default mean that the writers needed to check some boxes therefore making the female characters poorly written. In summary: It's inequality at the worst, and a snowball effect where there now just happens to be more male antagonists at the most neutral. (I would also argue that there are far more male protagonists than female, from what I remember.) There's similar, maybe even more female protag screentime than male protag if you look at the main series Male: Firestar, Brambleclaw, Stormfur, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, Flametail, Alderheart, Rootspring, Shadowsight Female: Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Hollyleaf, Ivypool, Dovewing, Twigbranch, Violetshine, Bristlefrost The statistics LOOK male skewed, but it's inaccurate because several of the males only get one book (Stormfur and Flametail) and some don't get a full series (Brambleclaw). I haven't read DOTC so I can't speak for whether that changes it
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Oct 13, 2021 8:14:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately this leads to situations where the ratio of male/female villains is typically one-sided. Should we be obsessed about it? Debatable. But I think we should definitely all care, at least to some level. Until a 50/50 (or at the very least, 60/40) ratio is produced, then there is some amount of inequality here. Is it problematic to the point where we should be raising torches and pitchforks about it? No, I don't believe so personally. Regardless, there's nothing wrong with wanting more female representation, and hoping for that doesn't by default mean that the writers needed to check some boxes therefore making the female characters poorly written. In summary: It's inequality at the worst, and a snowball effect where there now just happens to be more male antagonists at the most neutral. (I would also argue that there are far more male protagonists than female, from what I remember.) There's similar, maybe even more female protag screentime than male protag if you look at the main series Male: Firestar, Brambleclaw, Stormfur, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, Flametail, Alderheart, Rootspring, Shadowsight Female: Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Hollyleaf, Ivypool, Dovewing, Twigbranch, Violetshine, Bristlefrost The statistics LOOK male skewed, but it's inaccurate because several of the males only get one book (Stormfur and Flametail) and some don't get a full series (Brambleclaw). I haven't read DOTC so I can't speak for whether that changes it DotC’s protags are all toms; Gray Wing, Thunder and Clear Sky.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 13, 2021 8:17:29 GMT -5
Unfortunately this leads to situations where the ratio of male/female villains is typically one-sided. Should we be obsessed about it? Debatable. But I think we should definitely all care, at least to some level. Until a 50/50 (or at the very least, 60/40) ratio is produced, then there is some amount of inequality here. Is it problematic to the point where we should be raising torches and pitchforks about it? No, I don't believe so personally. Regardless, there's nothing wrong with wanting more female representation, and hoping for that doesn't by default mean that the writers needed to check some boxes therefore making the female characters poorly written. In summary: It's inequality at the worst, and a snowball effect where there now just happens to be more male antagonists at the most neutral. (I would also argue that there are far more male protagonists than female, from what I remember.) There's similar, maybe even more female protag screentime than male protag if you look at the main series Male: Firestar, Brambleclaw, Stormfur, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, Flametail, Alderheart, Rootspring, Shadowsight Female: Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Hollyleaf, Ivypool, Dovewing, Twigbranch, Violetshine, Bristlefrost The statistics LOOK male skewed, but it's inaccurate because several of the males only get one book (Stormfur and Flametail) and some don't get a full series (Brambleclaw). I haven't read DOTC so I can't speak for whether that changes it I always felt that the main series was more she-cat leaning when it came to protags. Especially since we had three arcs centered around sister-pairs; Squirrel and Leaf, Ivy and Dove, and Twig and Violet. It makes me wonder why the Erins can't do something similar with female villains, since the majority of main villains are tom leaning. Also, fun fact, I was pretty sure this was a type of trope so I decided to give it a search and apparently it is. It's called " Females are more Innocent." And funnily enough Warriors is listed as one of the examples under literature. But basically this is the explanation:
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Post by Aqua on Oct 13, 2021 8:33:42 GMT -5
No, because I really don't care if the villain is a male or a female, it just has to be well written enough to entertain me. Genders really don't matter to me when it comes to villains. I just care about the quality, not the gender. Most of their villains have been okay. Unfortunately this leads to situations where the ratio of male/female villains is typically one-sided. Should we be obsessed about it? Debatable. But I think we should definitely all care, at least to some level. Until a 50/50 (or at the very least, 60/40) ratio is produced, then there is some amount of inequality here. Is it problematic to the point where we should be raising torches and pitchforks about it? No, I don't believe so personally. Regardless, there's nothing wrong with wanting more female representation, and hoping for that doesn't by default mean that the writers needed to check some boxes therefore making the female characters poorly written. In summary: It's inequality at the worst, and a snowball effect where there now just happens to be more male antagonists at the most neutral. (I would also argue that there are far more male protagonists than female, from what I remember.) I never said there's anything wrong with wanting a female villain. I'm just saying I just don't care about the gender of the villains. That's all.
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Post by vectoring34 on Oct 13, 2021 8:43:04 GMT -5
There's similar, maybe even more female protag screentime than male protag if you look at the main series Male: Firestar, Brambleclaw, Stormfur, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, Flametail, Alderheart, Rootspring, Shadowsight Female: Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Hollyleaf, Ivypool, Dovewing, Twigbranch, Violetshine, Bristlefrost The statistics LOOK male skewed, but it's inaccurate because several of the males only get one book (Stormfur and Flametail) and some don't get a full series (Brambleclaw). I haven't read DOTC so I can't speak for whether that changes it I always felt that the main series was more she-cat leaning when it came to protags. Especially since we had three arcs centered around sister-pairs; Squirrel and Leaf, Ivy and Dove, and Twig and Violet. It makes me wonder why the Erins can't do something similar with female villains, since the majority of main villains are tom leaning. Also, fun fact, I was pretty sure this was a type of trope so I decided to give it a search and apparently it is. It's called " Females are more Innocent." And funnily enough Warriors is listed as one of the examples under literature. But basically this is the explanation: That is all true. I don't think the series has a female protagonist problem, but female antagonist is a different story. They closest thing to a female main villain who was not defined by being slighted by a male is Fury, but Fury is victim to the fact that she gets her screentime halved by only existing in the past. Fog could be argued as one, but Fog is ultimately a rather minor road block in her book compared to the other drama going on. All the rest are either defined by their tragic backstory with a guy, are flunkies, or get a redemptive arc. I think there's also an argument for Rainflower as the abusive mother figure, though your mileage may vary since she's again not the focus of the book.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 13, 2021 10:36:05 GMT -5
No, because I really don't care if the villain is a male or a female, it just has to be well written enough to entertain me. Genders really don't matter to me when it comes to villains. I just care about the quality, not the gender. Most of their villains have been okay. I also don't really care what gender a villain has. That being said, the amount of female ones in this series compared to how many male ones there are just makes it feel quite unbalanced in that regard. Especially because Mapleshade and Sleekwhisker are still the only ones who are known to most people/popular to an extent.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 14, 2021 6:33:27 GMT -5
Then I would place Bluestar in the Redeemed section. But when it comes to her mental instability (which was dementia) I'm not going to fault her for that as she wasn't fully in control of herself. woah woah , where is it ever confirmed she has Dementia ? From my recollection her Downward Spiral Mentally was Because of all the Stress from of Tigerclaw betraying her, Graystripe leaving which again more betrayal, Fireheart going behind her back(though he has great intentions , Feelings of Abandonment from Starclan , and just Overall Feeling helpless to Control the Situation/events unfolding around her etc . Not Dementia , unless Victorian Holmes made some Random Contradicting post years later that I never read ( and for good reason , She’s Changes things far to often , makes keeping anything Straight a chore ). It was confirmed years ago on Vicky's Facebook and hasn't been contradicted since then (she left the project in 2017 though). You can also see it in Bluestar's trivia section on the Warriors Wiki. warriors.fandom.com/wiki/Bluestar/TriviaIt makes sense too, as 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 has already pointed out, dementia can also be caused by stress and Tigerclaw's betrayal was the main catalyst for Bluestar's rapid mental downward spiral of confusion and distrust.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Oct 14, 2021 8:22:48 GMT -5
woah woah , where is it ever confirmed she has Dementia ? From my recollection her Downward Spiral Mentally was Because of all the Stress from of Tigerclaw betraying her, Graystripe leaving which again more betrayal, Fireheart going behind her back(though he has great intentions , Feelings of Abandonment from Starclan , and just Overall Feeling helpless to Control the Situation/events unfolding around her etc . Not Dementia , unless Victorian Holmes made some Random Contradicting post years later that I never read ( and for good reason , She’s Changes things far to often , makes keeping anything Straight a chore ). It was confirmed years ago on Vicky's Facebook and hasn't been contradicted since then (she left the project in 2017 though). You can also see it in Bluestar's trivia section on the Warriors Wiki. warriors.fandom.com/wiki/Bluestar/TriviaIt makes sense too, as 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 has already pointed out, dementia can also be caused by stress and Tigerclaw's betrayal was the main catalyst for Bluestar's rapid mental downward spiral of confusion and distrust. hmmm . That’s pretty interesting, though I find it very Difficult to Swallow , given that I have a few Family Members with Dementia . And I’ve been Around alot of people with Alzheimer’s, and Dementia and other Types Mental Degenerative disorders , and I have to say Bluestars behavior doesn’t match dementia , in fact in aligns much more with Parkinson’s , CTE , PTSD or heck even Schizophrenia etc. I can See her maybe having some Mild Degree of Alzheimer’s, but not Dementia . Suppose Vicky mustn’t of done much research before putting a label on it .
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Post by vectoring34 on Oct 14, 2021 8:33:00 GMT -5
It was confirmed years ago on Vicky's Facebook and hasn't been contradicted since then (she left the project in 2017 though). You can also see it in Bluestar's trivia section on the Warriors Wiki. warriors.fandom.com/wiki/Bluestar/TriviaIt makes sense too, as 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 has already pointed out, dementia can also be caused by stress and Tigerclaw's betrayal was the main catalyst for Bluestar's rapid mental downward spiral of confusion and distrust. hmmm . That’s pretty interesting, though I find it very Difficult to Swallow , given that I have a few Family Members with Dementia . And I’ve been Around alot of people with Alzheimer’s, and Dementia and other Types Mental Degenerative disorders , and I have to say Bluestars behavior doesn’t match dementia , in fact in aligns much more with Parkinson’s , CTE , PTSD or heck even Schizophrenia etc. I can See her maybe having some Mild Degree of Alzheimer’s, but not Dementia . Suppose Vicky mustn’t of done much research before putting a label on it . Anecdotally speaking I know people whose grandparents had dementia and the portrayal is not inaccurate.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Oct 14, 2021 12:33:30 GMT -5
It was confirmed years ago on Vicky's Facebook and hasn't been contradicted since then (she left the project in 2017 though). You can also see it in Bluestar's trivia section on the Warriors Wiki. warriors.fandom.com/wiki/Bluestar/TriviaIt makes sense too, as 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 has already pointed out, dementia can also be caused by stress and Tigerclaw's betrayal was the main catalyst for Bluestar's rapid mental downward spiral of confusion and distrust. hmmm . That’s pretty interesting, though I find it very Difficult to Swallow , given that I have a few Family Members with Dementia . And I’ve been Around alot of people with Alzheimer’s, and Dementia and other Types Mental Degenerative disorders , and I have to say Bluestars behavior doesn’t match dementia , in fact in aligns much more with Parkinson’s , CTE , PTSD or heck even Schizophrenia etc. I can See her maybe having some Mild Degree of Alzheimer’s, but not Dementia . Suppose Vicky mustn’t of done much research before putting a label on it . My paternal grandmother also had dementia years before she passed away and I distinctively remember her to have exhibited similar behaviour to how Bluestar acted during Rising Storm and A Dangerous Path. Most of the symptoms do match up such as sudden mood changes, being confused about surroundings, struggling to follow conversations and some degree of memory loss. While Bluestar did have moments of clarity in between, she got worse every time afterwards and only regained full awareness of herself when she saved Fireheart from the dog pack which could be taken as a creative liberty in terms of writing about dementia in a children's book series about magical cats.
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